Cristiano Ronaldo - 'O Fenômeno' Thread [R]

leafster · Oct 29, 2005

TO DEVILS said:

Yes folks you are reading it right. CR came in the second half when ManU was already loosing 2-0, and was one ManU best players, which begs me to ask, why was he on the bench.
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Because his head hasn't been on straight for the past few months. I don't blame the manager for leaving him out of the starting lineup considering how he has been playing.

He did score a nice little header. Man united's 1000th in the premiership

IslandBoy · Oct 29, 2005

TO DEVILS said:

C.Ronaldo scored in the 93 minute for Manu to make the score Boro 4-1 ManU.

Yes folks you are reading it right. CR came in the second half when ManU was already loosing 2-0, and was one ManU best players, which begs me to ask, why was he on the bench.QUOTE]

it was 3-0 nothing when he came on.
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Aveirenses · Oct 29, 2005

leafster said:

Because his head hasn't been on straight for the past few months. I don't blame the manager for leaving him out of the starting lineup considering how he has been playing.

He did score a nice little header. Man united's 1000th in the premiership
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Considering he's been off-form and dealing with his father's death and the legal crap he's been pretty good, IMO. Against Lille, still off-form, he was the one creating the most danger for United, and today he looked like his normal self and got himself a goal to top it off.

CR7! · Oct 29, 2005

Their whole team played like ********. CR came on and was good compared to what everyone else was doin, but still nowhere near what he had been producing before this season.

TO DEVILS · Oct 29, 2005

pvieira12 said:

TO DEVILS said:

C.Ronaldo scored in the 93 minute for Manu to make the score Boro 4-1 ManU.

Yes folks you are reading it right. CR came in the second half when ManU was already loosing 2-0, and was one ManU best players, which begs me to ask, why was he on the bench.
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it was 3-0 nothing when he came on.
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Sorry, my bad. You are right!!

DiaboVermelho86 · Oct 29, 2005

C Ronaldo was definitely the best player on the field for Man U, but having said that the whole team peformed poorly. When he came on he had a nice cross but none of his teammates were able to hit it. After that, he didn't get much of the ball. Later on he crossed another good one but O'shea hit it wide. Glad to see he got a goal at the end, serves right for the Boro fans booing him whenever he got the ball.

jec1 · Oct 29, 2005

sir alex days are numbered for sure....

but cr did creat good chances and he capatalized in the end.... his facial expression said it all.

hes done with manu he dont look happy at all.

jec1 · Oct 29, 2005

Re: Dinamo Moscow wants Scolari and C Ronaldo

good point albu.... its a ploy to get more money which is stupid....

but i really do think he isnt happen with manu and the direction there heading.

after all with the glazer donut era it sucks to be a player for them and even when you got chelsea leading the pack the second straight year it will be hard to compete.

i think he is second guessin hes situation and if i were him look at the serie a or even the superliga for options....

respect goes a long way and england is treating him like a dog on a leash put him out there to create and then be critized by the media.... hes is turnin into another david beckham as far as to say bad media cna get you in the ass.

jec1 · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

yep and there making big money in the process....

show me the money

JuveleoRules · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

TO DEVILS said:

If you don't think he would come, why do you even waste your prescious time to come here and enlight us with your wisdom.
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Just stating the obvious...

Isn't this also the team Robinho was signing with

These fools never cease to amaze me...all they do is throw out player names to keep all of you suckers hoping...

In the end they sign 2 second tier players and nothing else...Miccoli and Karayakas...

Frank Cunha · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

JuveleoRules said:

Just stating the obvious...

Isn't this also the team Robinho was signing with

These fools never cease to amaze me...all they do is throw out player names to keep all of you suckers hoping...

In the end they sign 2 second tier players and nothing else...Miccoli and Karayakas...
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a lot better then Sporting did by signing Loureiro, Joao Alves, Wender, and a couple others

Aveirenses · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

Frank Cunha said:

we got our history, Ronaldo will not be the first to play in the Benfica uniform ohters have it done like like Eusebio, Coluna, Jose Torres, Jose Augusto, Chalana, Simao, Valdo, Paulo Futre, etc,

http://www.slbenfica.pt/Info/Clube/info_clubPalmaresGeral.asp
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Wow, Frank; you've gone bonkers.

Most of the players you mentioned (excluding the last few) were FORCED to stay at Benfica. This was during a time when there were plenty of offers for them from Real Madrid and other big teams, BUT Salazar forbade Benfica to ever accept those offers.

I seriously can't imagine anyone taking this seriously. Not to mention that I'd LOVE to know where these magical imaginary 30 million dollars will come from. Really, I should ask where these 38 million dollars come from (don't forget the deal with the construction company).

Frank Cunha · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

only time will tell, I been wright and wrong before.

Frank Cunha · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

I was really optimistic until the Russians came on board, they are going to be in England next week and they are going to make a offer, the MU my not refuse.

PAUL SILVA · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

I just can't see Ronaldo playing in the Russian league. But if there are people crazy enough to offer more than a player is worth its the Russians...Ronaldo is already wearing gloves, leg warmers and scarves in England...what will he take out on to the field in Russia...Husky fur hat, snow shoes and a flask of Vodka??? What happens to hairspray at -40 C...

Joelzinho · Oct 29, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

I really hope he doesnt go to Russia, it will be the end of his career.

Joelzinho · Oct 29, 2005

Re: Dinamo Moscow wants Scolari and C Ronaldo

ALBU said:

But ask yourself "why hasn't he signed it"? Signing this contract does not demonstrate whether or not CRon is interested in staying with ManU - he can still be sold and his transfer would not affect his salary. It is likely CRon and his agent either believe they can secure a better wage by waiting until after the WC or perhaps ManU is inserting some clause that is not sitting well with CRon (such as requesting a high transfer price).
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Thats what proboly going through my mind, either hes hesitant because he thinks hes going to have a great WC or he doesnt like something in the contract, or maybe he really does want out.

Força Sporting · Oct 29, 2005

The threads of Ronaldo to Benfica and Dynamo Moscow have been merged in this thread...

Força Sporting · Oct 29, 2005

Here is something to ponder about Ronaldo to Benfica - can Sporting afford to let him go to another Portuguese club? From what I remember, based on the transfer details, Sporting has the first right of refusal to Ronaldo if MUFC is approached by some other Portuguese club where an offer is given and accepted, similar to the Hugo Viana and Quaresma deals. Now, I know Benfiquistas will say this is the Simao saga all over again, but think about the reason why Simao never made it back to Sporting. When Simao was sold to Barca, Sporting used some of the transfer money on Rodrigo Tello who, of course, has not panned out the way that was hoped, but he was the guy that was to replace Simao on the left side. Sporting, IMO, never really imagined that Simao wouldn't cut it at Barca and would be sold so quickly, so I am sure that this played into the reason why he never came back. Now, as for Ronaldo, Sporting has Douala but he is nowhere near the dynamo offensively that Ronaldo is. I can bet my left nut that if Ronaldo is on the market and if a Portuguese team, whether it be Porto or Benfica, make an offer that is accepted by MUFC, Sporting will use the right of refusal to get him back. There is no way that the team can let him go to another club in Portugal - the backlash would be one of fury and relentlessness from the adeptos.

Also, reference was made by the fact that Sporting gets rid of all of its youth. Keep this in mind - when Sporting sells a player, they make millions from foreign clubs, but for every player that is sold, there is always another player coming up through the academy that can be just as good. I hate to brag but Sporting has an academy that is used in the same breath as those of Ajax, West Ham, Manchester United and others around the world. There are almost a dozen players on the main squad now that have been developed by the club itself. If there is a demand for a player and a team is willing to drop buckets of cash, then sometimes you can't refuse the offer, but in Sporting's case, that player can more than likely be replaced in-house, and that isn't a luxury that some other Portuguese clubs have...

marco goncalves · Oct 30, 2005

Forca Sporting said:

Here is something to ponder about Ronaldo to Benfica - can Sporting afford to let him go to another Portuguese club? From what I remember, based on the transfer details, Sporting has the first right of refusal to Ronaldo if MUFC is approached by some other Portuguese club where an offer is given and accepted, similar to the Hugo Viana and Quaresma deals. Now, I know Benfiquistas will say this is the Simao saga all over again, but think about the reason why Simao never made it back to Sporting. When Simao was sold to Barca, Sporting used some of the transfer money on Rodrigo Tello who, of course, has not panned out the way that was hoped, but he was the guy that was to replace Simao on the left side. Sporting, IMO, never really imagined that Simao wouldn't cut it at Barca and would be sold so quickly, so I am sure that this played into the reason why he never came back. Now, as for Ronaldo, Sporting has Douala but he is nowhere near the dynamo offensively that Ronaldo is. I can bet my left nut that if Ronaldo is on the market and if a Portuguese team, whether it be Porto or Benfica, make an offer that is accepted by MUFC, Sporting will use the right of refusal to get him back. There is no way that the team can let him go to another club in Portugal - the backlash would be one of fury and relentlessness from the adeptos.

Also, reference was made by the fact that Sporting gets rid of all of its youth. Keep this in mind - when Sporting sells a player, they make millions from foreign clubs, but for every player that is sold, there is always another player coming up through the academy that can be just as good. I hate to brag but Sporting has an academy that is used in the same breath as those of Ajax, West Ham, Manchester United and others around the world. There are almost a dozen players on the main squad now that have been developed by the club itself. If there is a demand for a player and a team is willing to drop buckets of cash, then sometimes you can't refuse the offer, but in Sporting's case, that player can more than likely be replaced in-house, and that isn't a luxury that some other Portuguese clubs have...
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No way in hell Ronaldo will go to Russia ,put the money issue aside for a moment...Dinamo Moscow wont even be competing in Europe next year...Ronaldo in Russia will not have the same endorsments as he has in England ....This kid and his agent are not stupid,,He would lose financially and and also in a sports point of view.....

marco goncalves · Oct 30, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

JuveleoRules said:

Just stating the obvious...

Isn't this also the team Robinho was signing with

These fools never cease to amaze me...all they do is throw out player names to keep all of you suckers hoping...

In the end they sign 2 second tier players and nothing else...Miccoli and Karayakas...
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Miccoli and Karyaka ,better than the ******** you signed Loureiro and Joao ALves....

TO DEVILS · Oct 30, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

juveleorules said:

Just stating the obvious...

Isn't this also the team Robinho was signing with

These fools never cease to amaze me...all they do is throw out player names to keep all of you suckers hoping...

In the end they sign 2 second tier players and nothing else...Miccoli and Karayakas.....
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If they are second tier, what would you call Wender, Joao Alves, Manoel and Silva???? 5th tier????

Our "2nd tier" players have kept us in the CL and 3rd place in the league, what have yours done for you????

Joelzinho · Oct 30, 2005

Forca Sporting said:

Here is something to ponder about Ronaldo to Benfica - can Sporting afford to let him go to another Portuguese club? From what I remember, based on the transfer details, Sporting has the first right of refusal to Ronaldo if MUFC is approached by some other Portuguese club where an offer is given and accepted, similar to the Hugo Viana and Quaresma deals. Now, I know Benfiquistas will say this is the Simao saga all over again, but think about the reason why Simao never made it back to Sporting. When Simao was sold to Barca, Sporting used some of the transfer money on Rodrigo Tello who, of course, has not panned out the way that was hoped, but he was the guy that was to replace Simao on the left side. Sporting, IMO, never really imagined that Simao wouldn't cut it at Barca and would be sold so quickly, so I am sure that this played into the reason why he never came back. Now, as for Ronaldo, Sporting has Douala but he is nowhere near the dynamo offensively that Ronaldo is. I can bet my left nut that if Ronaldo is on the market and if a Portuguese team, whether it be Porto or Benfica, make an offer that is accepted by MUFC, Sporting will use the right of refusal to get him back. There is no way that the team can let him go to another club in Portugal - the backlash would be one of fury and relentlessness from the adeptos.

Also, reference was made by the fact that Sporting gets rid of all of its youth. Keep this in mind - when Sporting sells a player, they make millions from foreign clubs, but for every player that is sold, there is always another player coming up through the academy that can be just as good. I hate to brag but Sporting has an academy that is used in the same breath as those of Ajax, West Ham, Manchester United and others around the world. There are almost a dozen players on the main squad now that have been developed by the club itself. If there is a demand for a player and a team is willing to drop buckets of cash, then sometimes you can't refuse the offer, but in Sporting's case, that player can more than likely be replaced in-house, and that isn't a luxury that some other Portuguese clubs have...
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Very True my man, I have come to this realizationg as well. That Sporting does indeed develop great talent. Quaresma, Ronaldo, Figo...those are just off the top of my head.

And dont they got that young striker Fabio Paim

Aveirenses · Oct 30, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

Frank Cunha said:

a lot better then Sporting did by signing Loureiro, Joao Alves, Wender, and a couple others
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Yes, but Sporting never promised surprise after surprise after surprise like Benfica.

If Benfica lived up to the hype they made about themselves they'd have boughten:

Nilmar
Tomasson
Dede
Ewerthon

How many of those are at Benfica? 0.

Sporting have only put interest in players that they actually were capable of getting, and for that reason got them.

TO DEVILS · Oct 30, 2005

Re: C Ronaldo to Benfica? [R]

Aveirenses said:

Yes, but Sporting never promised surprise after surprise after surprise like Benfica.

If Benfica lived up to the hype they made about themselves they'd have boughten:

Nilmar
Tomasson
Dede
Ewerthon

How many of those are at Benfica? 0.

Sporting have only put interest in players that they actually were capable of getting, and for that reason got them.
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It is all about setting your goals....

If your goal is to be a garbage man and you reach it, i guess you can say your life was a success, right? But if you set your goals to be a CEO and instead you become a branch Manager, your life was a failure!!

This is what you are trying to say, right?

It is easy to achieve goals when you start from the fact that they are easy to achieve...when you set your goals high, you have something to work for, you may achieve it you may not, but at least you tried!!!!

one more thing, why do you always come in defense of Sporting??? Could it be your true colors showing?????