Criminally Negligent: The Liverpool Transfers Thread (2025)

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by newterp, Dec 20, 2024.

  1. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    in Germany a set % of all transfer fees are trickled down to each of a player's previous teams. can't recall details but I think it gets paid out to all such teams (any age) as long as it's a registered league.
     
  2. ewibe

    ewibe Member+

    Jun 4, 2015
    Stavanger
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Real Madrid used buy back clauses on Morata and Casemiro
     
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  3. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Didn’t know that. Any others?
     
  4. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Captain Carvajal. Morata, Mariano Diaz, Callejon I think? Madrid did it many years ago before it became a thing in the 2000s. But not many noteworthy players as I recall.
     
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  5. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    I can see the loan thing. “We think you might be good enough, but let’s send you to Ragball Rovers for a season to see what you really have”. But the buyback is essentially saying, “we don’t think you have what it takes and we moving you on.” Followed then by, “Y’know you’re not half bad, we’ll have you back”.

    Bit like dumping a girlfriend only to chase her 2-3 years later because you’re convinced she’s now hotter.
     
  6. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    as far as I can see there is zero downside and a lot of upside to a buyback. we're not committed to anything but can bring back a player who fulfills his potential.
    in a few years Q may not have become Virgil2.0, but could still be a very attractive addition to our squad.
     
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  7. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You know the things that happen when Liverpool goes front foot early in the transfer window, dontya?
     
  8. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    OK I'll bite ...
     
  9. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    Imagine the Wirtz
     
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  10. oikos

    oikos Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Glastonbury, CT
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why? he would be a defender playing in the best league in the world play against some of the best attackers like Salah. I'm sure if he shows he can play against Wirst and Salah they'll be happy to have him.
     
  11. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Supposedly Quansah’s buyback fee is £51m.
     
  12. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kerkez medical today announced tomorrow. Pretty silly to have lost out on Milos Monday after pulling off Florian Friday so well.

    Hughes out! FSG out!
     
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  13. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Yeah, I’d go with that. I mean, why not?
     
  14. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    a shocking level of incompetence on display. how TF are we supposed to tolerate this shit?
     
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  15. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    Probably should just sell Konate now.
     
  16. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Don’t know about that. Depends how far apart they are. A few more rounds of negotiations should tell a lot.
     
  17. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    we can't "just sell him" (or any player). they need to agree.
     
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  18. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    That's all very well until you get to the very top level (so if your harvey Elliot and etc is at just the level below that, what's the point of changing them?

    All I'm saying is that really top players don't like to hang around bench warming. Take Fabregas as an example at Barca after Pep left and they wet back to having a striker. He wasn't gonna get in the primary midfield three, so he wanders off to Chelsea.
    Veron at Manchester United is another good example.
     
  19. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't it that Veron simply was not able to adapt to the PL?
     
  20. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I just checked ...... not me, I'm afraid...... ;)
     
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  21. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Liverpool will bank about £3million inclusive of add-ons for selling Nat Phillips to West Bromwich Albion. A good signing for #WBA and a good fee recouped for #LFC.
     
  22. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I think in Elliott's case I believe the club is happy to keep him and it's up to Elliott now whether he's content to compete with top players at an elite club or move to another club where he may play more.


    However as to "really top players not liking bench warming" I think if the idea is to have "really top players" throughout the squad without a noticeable drop off then Slot will have many options to rotate regularly among the squad . With 5 subs available each game and Liverpool normally competing in four competitions late into the season there will be plenty of playing time available to all.
     
  23. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I also think the extenuating circumstances for me regarding TAA, were that he came up through the academy and was, up to running the contract down, a once club player. Also, as others may have already said, Real basically was encouraging him to run his contract down from day one...
     
  24. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That and usually these buy-back clauses are "right of first refusal" type of things. So mainly we get a say in whether the player gets to transfer to at some point in the future, or if we are willing to put up the money to keep them away from a direct rival.
     
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  25. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Won't happen, no days in the week that start with "K."
     
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