Crew Stadium 2.0 - Construction News and Notes

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by LaMacchia, Oct 6, 2019.

  1. WhiteHartShame

    WhiteHartShame Member+

    Nov 16, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want to believe your assumptions, and they may end up being accurate, but over the years I have learned the hard way about how that can end up in many situations. I remember people telling me what a great guy that pre+ourt was, how they had beers with him, about his great love for Columbus, and how he was preparing to move to Columbus...
     
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  2. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a good point. Say someone pays ~$3200 for their season tickets. If they can sell their four Miami tickets for ~$1800, that's approximately $1400 for four season tickets sans one game, obviously. All of a sudden, that $800 seat becomes a heavily discounted $350 and it's a better value for the seat holder than pro-rating one game at $40*4.

    Yeah you'd have to pay taxes and it's a big *if* but the financial return could be welcomed by some.

    It's still wrong though.
     
  3. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they were just willing to refund people, or make in opt in/opt out, or not include it in the package and do it separate (like CBJ did with this year’s outdoor game) then it would be easier to swallow. The fact that they sold you one thing, then were gonna change it and say no refunds, is the really shitty part.
     
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  4. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    What's shittier?

    This mess (using pluralities like "games" and "stadium" while implying it could last multiple seasons) OR announcing the coach's contract the day after renewals were due? It's ok if you need a moment to decide.
     
  5. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Coaches don't cost people real money.
     
  6. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah. I am not convinced I would make more off of my tickets in Cleveland than in Columbus. I know what we pocketed from the Messi tickets this year.

    Much less supply in Columbus.

    UNLESS

    The Messi game was some prime summer spot. That could tip the price scales. Maybe.
     
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  7. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But ... it's not a FIFA (or MLS) regulation sized stadium. Friendly, yes. Regular season? Not so much.
     
  8. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    There would be at least a slight premium for the Miami game which should cover fees and the few minutes needed to sell tickets if one doesn't want to head up to Cleveland. Even without a significant price bump, everyone should at least break even. That eliminates the I am losing money by this problem is all I am saying.
     
  9. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Woah, mom is cursing!

    ; P
     
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  10. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    Unless you think there's going to be 100,000 people competing for 60,000 tickets, this is nowhere near what will happen. They're going to charge an elevated price for that game like they did this season and the demand is going to be underwhelming. Even if you get 40,000 coming to see Messi, you've still got the equivalent of LDC's capacity to sell to Crew fans with a lot of people unwilling to make the trip. They couldn't sell tickets at $418 plus fees this year. They're not going to sell for anywhere near that in a much bigger and antiquated stadium that has worst sightlines.

    STM Nordecke tickets for Miami this year are 50% higher than the season average per game, for example ($45 vs average of $30 for 18 games). Let's assume they bump that up to $55 which is about the rate of annual increase from 2024. If I can resell it for $100 I've recouped the cost of a little over one game. My guess is most STMs will break even or maybe make a small profit. Those with the most expensive tickets could easily lose money. The demand isn't there. Selling out the building will be difficult with a large portion of the Crew fanbase pissed off or unable to afford it.
     
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  11. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A few weeks ago, we started season three of Wrexham. About half of the way through the first episode, we decided that Markus was old enough to watch it with us. So we restarted the whole series with him.

    We have been substituting lots of basic f-words for the f-word. Fun-size is our favorite substitute so far.

    A bunch of fun-sized footballers.

    Fun-size you.

    You can go fun-size yourself.
     
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  12. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was fun learning about the Bolshevik Revolution.

    If you need creative ideas, I'm just saying.
     
  13. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Connor is constantly calling the wife and I out for swearing. We cuss like sailors so we hear a lot of "bad word alert!" I have no clue how he's turned out the way he has.
     
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  14. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just read somewhere that if the Browns build a new stadium and nothing changes between now and then, that the team will set an NFL record:

    No team has ever built, played in and then eventually demolished a stadium without ever so much as hosting even a single playoff game.
     
  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've made this point before... it should be a federal law that a team should not be able to get any public funding for a new stadium unless that team has won at least one playoff game (or series, depending on the sport) involving the current one.
     
  17. Crew Chuck35

    Crew Chuck35 Member+

    Apr 13, 2009
    Gahanna, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The browns beat the Steelers a couple years back.
     
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  18. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I had to look that up. It was 2020. I could have sworn that was a home game for the Browns. Nevertheless, I took great joy in the Browns beating the Squealers in back-to-back weeks.
     
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  19. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not in Cleveland
     
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  20. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hence “I could have sworn it was a home game for the Browns.”
     
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  21. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Nee's extension cost a lot of people a lot of pain.
     
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  22. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the extension was announced before the deadline, some people would have dropped tickets.
     
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  23. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The building on top of a parking garage makes sense. Avoids most flood plain issues. That's what the CAS building closest to the Olentangy is. 5 office stories on top of a 3 story garage.
     
  24. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Don't think the haslams own that land, so they have a real estate rival down there
     

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