Crew Stadium 2.0 - Construction News and Notes

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  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They aren't going to play Crew games up there. This is a hallucination from overactive paranoia.

    Relax.
     
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  2. WhiteHartShame

    WhiteHartShame Member+

    Nov 16, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then why in the hell did they include the below language in the Terms and Conditions that is included in my STM renewal?

    Each MLS season, the Team may play home matches (including but not limited to a MLS regular season match) at a stadium located outside of Columbus, Ohio, including but not limited to a stadium located in Cleveland, Ohio. No refunds of payments or deposits for tickets, or exchanges, will be made based on location of a match, even if the location of such match was not known or announced at the time of your purchase.
     
  3. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Messi leaves... there'll be another big-name player on down the road.

    If they insist on doing it, here's how I'd do it: Make it an opt-in game at a regular, non-premium rate for STMs. Include bus transportation from several points around Columbus at no additional fee.

    With the money they make selling thousands of seats at premium fees, they could easily afford a few charter buses.
     
  4. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Arace said that if we faced Miami and not the Rayados in the CCC, we would have played the home leg in Cleveland.
     
  5. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a few who used to go to every game every year who have stopped because "Columbus SC" or "USL is better" or "Apple Plus" whatever else. (That last one doesn't make sense AT all. You have a TV provider that doesn't have the RSNs, then you're gonna complain when games can be on your TV for $3/game? Really?)

    Sure, they were replaced by others...but you can only replace so many times.
     
  6. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because lawyers can kiss my ass is why.
     
  7. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Will the proposed field have a soccer configuration with a 75 yard wide field? Will it have a grass playing surface for all games, including the NFL or is the plan to simply install sod when required for soccer?
     
  8. Captain Invader

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 25, 2005
    Lake County (Ohio)
    THE CREW ARE MOVING TO BROOK PARK!!!
     
  9. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another player with Messi’s draw? Who? Seriously, which singular player on an MLS team few people in Cleveland have ever heard of will fill up an NFL stadium? Especially since you’ll lose a huge chunk of the Columbus fan base who won’t or can’t make the 2.5 hour drive north. Messi is unique.
     
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  10. Captain Invader

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 25, 2005
    Lake County (Ohio)
  11. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Five years from now, who knows. Ten? Twenty? For all we know, there could be some eight year old in Mexico or Japan right now who'll eventually bring 50+70k to MLS in a future era.
     
  12. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
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  13. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. crew2112

    crew2112 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Dayton, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Crew games in Cleveland would be disappointing but understandable. Columbus SC games in Cleveland would be weird. Careful what you wish for.
     
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  15. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not completely crazy to have MLS games outside the team's city. There's of course, been the games played by other US sports in other countries--my Phillies played in London this season. Also, a number of years back, the NHL played regular season games around the country to promote the sport. I recall seeing the Flyers play Calgary in Cincy. I can live with this on a limited basis--as long as they don't make me pay for a ticket to it. (Do I like it? No.) Makes me wonder if other teams will do this. Betting the Union could draw a big crowd at the Linc for Messi, for one. Or NYRB at the Meadowlands. Earthquakes at the Niners' stadium. Etc.
     
  16. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    The Phillies play 81 home games every year. Even if they put a Braves series overseas, there's still going to be another 4-6 games in Philadelphia against them.

    The Flyers play 41 home games every year and a game against Calgary is likelier to be an "excess inventory" game than a premium opponent like the Penguins or Rangers. Even if it is a premium divisional opponent, there's at least one other home game that year against them.

    MLS plays 17 MLS regular season games, each with a unique opponent. There is no second or third scheduled home date against LAFC, Cincinnati or Miami. The only way it happens is by non-guaranteed advancements through a tournament or playoffs.

    The Linc is still in Philly, 19 minutes from Chester.
    The Meadowlands is still in the NY/NJ metro, 20 minutes from Harrison.
    Levi's is still in the southern Bay Area, 12 minutes from PayPal Park.

    Cleveland Browns Stadium is 2+ hours from Columbus. The outrage would be minimal if we were talking about moving the Miami game to Ohio Stadium, which is the Columbus equivalent of those examples.

    These are all poor comparisons.
     
  17. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    NFL plays regular season games in Europe and Mexico. They only play a 17 game schedule.
     
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  18. TracieB

    TracieB Member

    Oct 2, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Difference is they aren't charging season ticket holders for those games not played at home. They aren't selling tickets for those games and then moving it after the fact and then not refunding the tickets to people who can't go to the moved game.
     
  19. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We don't know that, at this time. It's a fair guess, but we really do not know.
     
  20. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    True, but in addition to Tracie's point, the NFL has no comparison. It's the closest thing that sports has to inflexible demand (to use a business school term). Basically, no matter how expensive it gets or how much it attempts to alienate its audience, people will still go to the games and watch on TV in unparalleled numbers. The other "major sports" aren't even close, much less MLS. And the NFL still is selective about which games they designate for international. It's never one of the premier matchups. The most common participants are teams that have struggled with attendance: Jags, Dolphins, and Raiders.
     
  21. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    We were charged for 18 games and the T&C explicitly say no refunds or exchanges if one of those 18 is played outside of Columbus. Add in today's news stories about how they've specifically targeted a game against Miami and it's pretty cut and dry.
     
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  22. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This season the Packers are playing the Eagles and the Vikings are playing the Jets, among other teams. And the Chiefs played in Frankfurt last year. So no. Not "never".
     
  23. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Each MLS season, the Team may play home matches (including but not limited to a MLS regular season match) at a stadium located outside of Columbus, Ohio, including but not limited to a stadium located in Cleveland, Ohio. No refunds of payments or deposits for tickets, or exchanges, will be made based on location of a match, even if the location of such match was not known or announced at the time of your purchase."
     
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  24. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    I didn't read the full T&C, but does it spell out how seats are allocated? I know it's a license to even attend these games, but that term is doing a lot of work if that's the only reference to a game outside of the LDC.
     
  25. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope
     

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