Crew 2022 to '23 Off-season Roster Thread

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by TrueCrew, Oct 17, 2022.

  1. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A team that is basically spending the full cap, spent back to back club record transfer fees (including one of the biggest in league history), is paying the highest salaries in club history (top 10 in MLS), has 3 DPs, etc… forget that we’re talking about Cbus. The team I described above, let’s call them Team X, should be competing, yeah?

    If we’re not trying to win, we should sell LZ. We should sell Cucho. What’s the point of spending a ton of money on them if the goal is to just creep into the playoffs?

    I agree, this specific team probably ain’t winning the cup, no doubt. But a team with this profile (fees, salaries, 3 DPs) should be competing.

    If we can’t finish, let’s say, top four in the east, then this team needs to be blown up, and Bez needs to go. For all this money, we should be better.
     
  2. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed on the fact that we’ve spent enough money that we should be better than we are.

    But merely spending the money isn’t enough if you don’t spend it wisely. And our roster’s a mess.

    Hard pass on selling LZ and Cucho. Just because our roster is underwhelming this season doesn’t mean we can’t get better in the next window, and it doesn’t mean those two can’t be a part of a competitive team next season.
     
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  3. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In our two cup years, did anyone think we were favored to win?
     
  4. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How often do pre-season favorites perform up to expectation? How many pundits predicted NE would finish 10th in the East last year, and Seattle 11th in the West. The experts rarely accurately predict the unexpected.
     
  5. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is why I always laugh at the kind of posts being made in this thread about “winning now” and how badly we suck.
     
  6. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    We were +4000 in 2020 IIRC.
     
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  7. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, compared to the Blue Jackets, anyone looks like a team in win now mode.
     
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  8. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got +2000 for this year!
     
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  9. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My all time favorite MLS prediction is from a podcast (or whatever you'd call it) on mlssoccersoccer in Feb 2008.

    It was an interview format where they went through all of the teams one by one and Shep Messing was asked to explain the reason why each one could Win the Cup.

    When they got to the Crew, Messing literally laughed and said " Let's face it, there's no way the Crew can win the Cup".

    It was the one and only team in the entire league that he said had no hope at all of winning.
     
  10. theshark130

    theshark130 New Member

    columbus crew
    United States
    Jan 21, 2019
    Columbus
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got +3500 on this year. $1800 coming to me in about 10 months.;)
     
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  11. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    We have so many unknowns this year. I think we are a borderline playoff team because of roster construction and depth. I think if everyone stays healthy ( attackers ) with a new system we should have a chance to be a top team if others not named Cucho & LZ can contribute. At the same time let one of those 2 get hurt and I think we are in serious trouble . I’m mostly concerned about LZ staying healthy at his age and size in a physical MLS.

    After getting Ramirez there is no need for Kei Kamara. If JRR & Ramírez both play bad or one of our 3 guys get hurt I would definitely consider it. However maybe Yaw or Matan contribute this year somebody has to step up like DEJ did last year. If i had to guess it will be Ramirez if we play 2 strikers. Cucho will draw lots of attention and hopefully Cucho & LZ can slip him the ball in a great position and make teams pay. Once more ppl start scoring it’s a lot harder to harass Cucho & LZ. Good coaching and a good system could be the difference because Porter and his 4231 were not scoring enough and we gave up late scores a lot because we rarely could get that goal late when countering a team who is pushing numbers. Defense also needs to stay healthy because our back ups are a complete unknown outside of Josh Williams.

    Things we need:
    A more aggressive Nagbe contributing more in attack

    Molino same ^ if he stays healthy I think he definitely can.

    production from a second striker ( wingers didn’t do enough in Porters system outside of DEJ) Ramirez needs to produce since we gave him that 2/3 yr contract

    that’s a lot of IFs but a healthy roster this year will be better than the awful roster we had last year.

    A lot of ppl will bash Porter if we are successful and rightfully so. However I don’t think Bez gave him a good roster for his system. So let’s hope Nancy and his system can overcome our shortcomings on the roster.
     
  12. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I used Tipico, free money with the $100 merch voucher.

    Where did you find +3500?
     
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  13. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crew are +3000 on Tipico at the moment. I'm sure these lines change quite a bit as money comes in on them.
     
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  14. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    They are +3000 on Points Bet right now as well.
     
  15. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Florian Thauvin is out of contract.

    Bring him to the Midwest Marseille.
     
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  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correct me if I’m wrong… this means if you drop $100 on us, and it happens, you get back your original $100 plus $3,000?
     
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  17. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Thank you! Cashed out my ticket and got the better payout.
     
  18. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    There is a percentage they keep, $100 at +3000 is a $3000 payout.
     
  19. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Did they let you cash out at full value or did you have to eat some cash?
     
  20. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ]
    That is incorrect, $100 wager at +3000 pays out $3100.
     
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  21. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Full value. I was surprised, too.
     
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  22. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still don’t think it’s going to happen, but if I was a gambling man, I could understand dropping 100 bucks on that. Or maybe 50.
     
  23. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Actually, it may not if bet credits/free bets are used. I screwed myself out of some money by using some free bets on some extremely short odds, e.g. -20000, and only got the winnings and not the stake.
     
  24. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, free bets or bonus cash or other promotional things don't give the "stake" back because the stake didn't really exist in the first place. But, if you're wagering a real $100, then the way the line is listed at +3000, would return the stake and the winnings, paying out $3100.
     
  25. theshark130

    theshark130 New Member

    columbus crew
    United States
    Jan 21, 2019
    Columbus
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Caesars. I did not like the Tipico app at all. Not user friendly, at least not for this 40 year old you like making more futures bets than anything. Just looked and it is still at +3500.
     

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