I was reading either on ESPN or another site that the US and England would end up having to draw lots if tied. What scenario was that?
If US ties Algeria and England ties Slovenia by a score 2 goals more than the US match, then lots will be drawn.
I believe: If England and US both tie tomorrow they will each have 3 points. If the England score is 2-2 and the US score is 0-0 then they will each have the same number of points scored (3 each). The main thing is that England has to score two more goals then the US does tomorrow. This would require lots to be drawn.
Let's say the US ties Alg 0-0, and Eng-Svn ends up 2-2. (or any combination that ends up with the US and Eng tied in points and the exact number of goals scored and goals allowed. (I think. )
The drawing of lots should never be a factor. It's ridiculous. They should replace it with tiebreakers like the number of cards or something like that.
If it came down to that pathetic scenario I would seriously recommend that FIFA just make both teams lose and give the winner of group D a bye in the Round of 15. Honestly, I wouldn't ********ing care anymore if they were to tie Algeria.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-...er-drawing-lots-england-us-set?cc=5901&ver=us I'm 100% confident that such a process would be entirely clean and not involve any sorts of cash-filled briefcases changing hands. (Actually, we might luck out in such a scenario in that we're facing England, a country almost as unpopular internationally as we are and a fellow first-world nation not as likely to entertain any sorts of bribe attempts from FIFA)
Thats why we should win against Algeria decisively and hopefully we finish in 1st place of group C. Because if we do, we will be in the same bracket as South Korea and Uruguay. If we finish second we will be in the same bracket as Mexico and Argentina.
Don't like the drawing lots thing. Once lost a tournament on the flip of a coin (yes, when the final ended in a tie after OT and shootout, they flipped a coin). I would think it fun if they took the 11 starters from the 2 teams that tied (starters from the game against each other) and created 11 1v1 skill competitions. Examples: most juggles, hardest shot, most accurate long pass, most accurate chip, fastest straight ahead dribbling, fastest slolem dribbling, most accurate shot, etc. How fun would that be and it would take some startegy as all 11 would have to take part. Before you guys flame away, it sure beats drawing lots.
Look, since FIFA pushes "Fair Play", how about the team with the least amount of fouls? Several teams come in to hack their way to results against better teams. Penalize those squads in the tie breaker scenarios. It's highly unlikely that two or three teams will have the exact amount of fouls after 3 games. It sucks to lose out anyway you do it, but that should at least encourage the teams that have fouled a lot in the first two games to try and get a positive result in the third match so it doesn't come down to that tie breaker.
ok how about the "remote shootout" immediately after the last group match ends (assuming they're not in the same stadium at the time, in which case you'd do normal penalties like in EURO 2008), have each player select 5 players and have them shoot into an empty net from the center circle. Alternate between teams and play it like a penalty shootout... if still tied, sudden death, etc. Each team would watch the other shoot in the video board. (hell, why not?)
true... but we'd have a much more harmless drawing of lots anyway. The battle for who gets to play... well... umm... does anyone WANT to win group D?
I don't think it's very realistic. The way we leak goals, and the way we're scoring, the chances of 0 - 0 are very low, with both teams pushing for the victory.
I think it should come down to a rock-paper-scissors (best of 3) between the two team captains. Nice and fair.
If the two teams are still tied after all tiebreakers FIFA president Sepp Blatter does the following at an official ceremony. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf6mNUnzdS8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf6mNUnzdS8[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGYqSqf0yCY"]YouTube- Rock Paper Scissors World Champion 2006[/ame]