"Crawfished."

http://www.insidepolitics.org/heard/heard32300.html

This article states W got 1206 and Gore 1355

 

AND..


the colonel, before he went Teats up

 

If you think it was his Harvard MBA that got him his current job, there's nothing I can really do to help you.

 

it's never how much you know.

but how you use it. i'm smart as all hell and i've dissapointed many for years. smarts only get you so far. therefore a in a match of wits IQ numbers are pretty subjective

 

Bush was as involved in the running of the Rangers as I was.

It was a neat trick turning 500 grand (or whatever pittance it was) into many millions of dollars at taxpayers expense.

Maybe he should open a magic shop.

 

I always thought it was the Skull & Bones membership that did it for him and his daddy.

 

If his dad wasn't the 41st President of the United States, he wouldn't be president.

I never thought I'd kinda miss daddy Bush...

 

No wonder he's such a fan of standardized testing, b/c we all know they are the perfect measure of intelligence.

BTW, I scored higher than both of them. Doesn't prove I'm a genius.

 

Time ran an article in March 2001 called "Should SATs Matter?" Interesting read. I remember they had a graphic in that one that includes both Bush and Gore's SAT scores but it doesn't appear to be available on TIME's site

Edit: Oops, there it is

Bush: 1206
Gore: 1355
And just for fun: Paul Wellstone: Under 800 (went on to be Phi Beta Kappa at UNC)
Ben Stein: 1573

http://www.time.com/time/education/article/0,8599,101321,00.html

 

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushminime.htm

 

It is sad really that there are people so desperate to like GW so much, they even though he's wrong most of the time, they will defend him mercilessly, adopting the mantra "if we say it enough, eventually it will become true"

 

Come on folks, I consider myself to be a moderate. Conservative on economic issues, but liberal on issues of individual and societal freedoms.

"W" is an embarrassment as a president. He is a terrible public speaker. Clearly, everything needs to be scripted and read off a teleprompter for him to make any sense. I have yet to come across someone that was intelligent, unless they were an idiot savant, that could not express their thoughts in a clear concise fashion. "W" has real difficulties doing this. Furthermore, he cannot speak in an extemporaneous manner without appearing to be grasping for words or ways of expressing himself.

 

That, or the Stonecutters.

 

I think we probably should look at the title of this thread to see what should be expected. Does someone expect serious debate when the subject is how the guy uses "crawfish"?

 

I think it's all the coke and booze he did. His brain cells are fried.

 

i miss his post 9/11 hunting references

that was my favorite..

 

Good thing he's in charge of the country.

 

Mine was "evildoers"

 

haha. silly old bear. i betcha W is really cuddly!

 

http://www.us.mensa.org/join_mensa/testscores.php3

That was my impression too, until a few years ago when I considered joining. They accept SAT scores up until 1993 as prior evidence. i've heard from someone who joined for a while that scores on the low end near the 1250 threshhold. also require an iQ test. That's just a rumor I heard.

Anyway, as Dante correctly points out, Bush did not score high enough, as my memory of the article placed his score about 50 or 60 points higher than is the case. Still

1) Bush is far from stupid, as people here would like to claim. He may well be incurious, but not dumb.

2) First-rate temperament, character and political sense coupled with good-but-not-outstanding intelligence is a traditional formula for successful presidents, starting with Washington and including Franklin Roosevelt.

3) The leftists have an annoying debating habit of ad hominem attacks on the intellgence of their opponents rather than actuallydebatiing. For gosh sakes, they portrayed Gerald Ford as a moron, and he graduated from Yale Law School.

4) We could just as easily call George Washington a "sock puppet" for Alexander Hamilton. FDR didn't outline the New Deal on a blackboard at Hyde Park.It was the product of smart advisers coupled with FDR's keen political sense. We don't really analyze presidents so much as presidencies.

 

Thomas Jefferson had a soft voice and a speaking impediment. He hated pulblic speaking because he was terrible at it. Ted Kaczinsky is not exactly an articulate person. It happens all the time.

Meanwhile, we have a whole Congress full of people who speak well but really aren't rocket scientists, although a handful are pretty bright. .

I do think you're right in identifying his speaking skills as his biggest weakness. He has not been out there making the case for an invasion, which he needs to do. But having weak speaking skills doesn't mean he's a moron.

 

Actually, Jefe is right. I'm a computer programmer I know that I am a much better writer than speaker. But I am not running for the office. Since radio was invented, and especially with the advent of questioning by the press, the ability to speak is a vital skill needed by the president. A leader without that skill is an embarassment to the nation.

 

Disagreeing with the President is one thing. There are many things I disagree with the President on. However, distorting the record and polking fun at a regional accent is childish and silly. If you truly are right about his policies, go after the policies then. Stop acting so childish.