Covid-19: We don’t talk about 1-18

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  1. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    You can add Puerto Rico to the "below both countries in both metrics" category.
     
  2. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Whew!! Great post as the Director needed reassurance that you were still on track to claim 1st dibs on any Cabinet position you wanted. :thumbsup:

    HAIL GRIMES!!!
     
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  3. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    United States
    https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/ne...rnors-defy-bolsonaros-call-to-lift-lockdowns/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ors-amid-anger-at-handling-of-covid-19-crisis

    Santa Catarina, Sao Paolo, Rio De Janeiro states are named, but in the Guardian article, it shows that only three states have relaxed lockdowns.

    Meanwhile:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html

    All the states you have mentioned have reopened.

    In my next post, I'll compare those five states' trends to the UK and Sweden.
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    The really long malaria drug has been pulled from the UK Recovery trials as being ineffective in saving lives. It was given to 1,542 patients out of a pool of more than 11,000. 25.7% of the patients in the hydro pool died, while 23.5% of the patients in the control group died.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52937153
     
  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Rio beaches are opening they are in phase 1 of their re-opening program, they are a few weeks behind the USA

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ca-coronavirus-brazil-mexico-reopening-deaths

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/americas/latin-america-coronavirus-reopening-intl/index.html



    So yes, just like Governors in the USA they placed restrictions against the will of the president, but now are planning to lift some of those restrictions.


    What is the difference again?
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    I will accept the friendly amendment from the right honorable gentleman from Seattle.
     
  7. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Like the playing fields on Long Lane. Opposite the ROF and Queen Mary High for Girls. :)
     
  8. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe I'm wrong after all.
     
  9. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Is this the thread about stupid repugnant voters. (becoming dapip :))


    One out of three Americans used bleach ‘in non recommended high-risk practices’ to battle coronavirus: CDC report

    “One third of Americans used bleach or other household disinfectants “in non-recommended high risk practices” in attempts to reduce the spread of the deadly coronavirus, a new CDC survey finds.

    Among the non-recommended practices were using “bleach on food products, applying household cleaning and disinfectant products to skin, and inhaling or ingesting cleaners and disinfectants,” the CDC says, as The Daily Beast reports.”


    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/on...k-practices-to-battle-coronavirus-cdc-report/
     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Enemas, right?
     
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  11. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

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    These beliefs are part of a vicious cycle. Right wing websites fire up propaganda like the liberate nonsense, do astro turf protests which then leads to own the libs then they vote for the GOP. However, when you look at the polling they agree with lots of things liberals do.
     
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  12. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

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    Almost like people who were against Tarp or the ACA but it benefited them.
     
  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think you'll find that's a rather semantic argument in this case because the scientific finding was wrong because the data was wrong.

    Anyway, whatever...
     
  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Considering you clipped out my explanation that showed there was a clear difference between "bad science" and "bad data", I'm just going to point and laugh at your response.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. What's the difference with what you already do?
    Europe doesnot allow chlorofied chicken meat from the USA, which the insane idiot thinks is not right.
     
  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Because the banning of chlorinated chicken isn't about the use of chlorine, but rather it would allow less expensive US chicken to "flood" the European market and put chicken farms in the EU out of work.

    https://qz.com/1037737/will-post-brexit-uk-swallow-americas-chlorinated-chicken-for-a-trade-deal/

     
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  17. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Manchester United FC
    1 new case today in our province.

    25 people in hospital.

    Only 193 active cases now.
     
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  18. Nope. The TTIP was attacked by consumers who didnot want food produced by american standards to enter our market. To save the TTIP the chlorinated chicken was banned in an effort to get the TTIP accepted.
    The Dutch are still against TTIP.
     
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    The attacks on chlorinated chicken is similar to the attacks on GMO foods. It is mostly about protectionism and fear vs. anything scientific and, in many cases, runs counter to the EUs own scientific results. In the case of chicken, the EU uses more expensive and cleaner farming methods along with decreased farm-to-fork time to control salmonella, while the US uses less expensive and dirtier farming methods and uses chlorine to clean the carcasses post-slaughter.
     
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  20. I'm sorry, but you're wrong about this. It's not driven by companies or gouvernments, but by common people in Europe who put so much weight in the scales that politicians who would like to do otherwise can't ignore it.
    That whole chickenthing was part of the trade deal of the TTIP.
    The gmo thing was particularly strongly opposed by the German population, but also very much resented in most of the other West European countries.
     
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  21. Nope.
    In Europe the people more and more are realizing themselves how food and our water is getting contaminated with chemicals and hormones.
    The scientists pose that those chemicals/hormones are harmless in their current quantities, but when confronted with the question what they dio know about the effects of those chemicals acting TOGETHER in human/animal bodies they can't answer that question.
    Als people realize those scientists are dependent on subsidies from companies etc. We have seen how scientists produced research on demand (tobacco industry/booze industry/chemical industry), so it's a self inflicted wound of scientists to their credibility.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Hamburg also has only 4 cases in the last 24 hours

    I think this is proving even in high density areas the combination of social distancing, masks for all, and track/trace is effective to control the virus
     
  23. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    You're arguing American food is bad? Then why do we Americans eat so much of it?
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Meh - I disagree on this

    We don't want dirtier farm methods thanks.

    Why should we relax standards?
     
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  25. Yeah, it baffles me too:D
    Many years ago there was an American research on consuming red meat. The research concluded it was a cancer risk to eat red meat.
    Scientist in Europe did the same research but couldnot replicate the US findings.
    What they overlooked was that they their human guiny pigs consumed Euro meat, free from hormones (it's illegal to use hormons in Europe).
    In the States for profit they pump up animals by using that stuff.
     
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