Covid-19: We don’t talk about 1-18

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  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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  2. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
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    First!
     
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  3. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    An other good analysis from the Rolling Stone. Appropriate as well to start the new thread. Hope you guys still have the capabilities to be outraged.

    If you were to write a playbook for how not to prevent a public-health crisis, you would study the work of the Trump administration in the first three months of 2020. The Trump White House, through some combination of ignorance, arrogance, and incompetence, failed to heed the warnings of its own experts.
    It failed to listen to the projections of one of its own economic advisers. It failed to take seriously what has become the worst pandemic since the 1918 flu and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.
    And when the White House finally awoke to the seriousness of COVID-19, the response it mustered managed to contain all the worst traits of this presidency. Trump and his closest aides have ignored scientists, enlisted family members and TV personalities and corporate profiteers for help, and disregarded every protocol for how to communicate during a pandemic while spewing misinformation and lies.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ting-kushner-cdc-dysfunction-red-dawn-982308/
     
  4. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
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    About empty shelves in stores in quarantine zones - another factor is that restaurants are mostly closed and people are eating food from supermarkets instead. But the food that is grown for restaurants have a totally different distribution chain than food grown for consumers and there is no easy way to switch. So store shelves have no eggs, but eggs meant for Denny's have to be thrown in the garbage. And it's not just a matter of switching because that's not how capitalism works.

    That's why you see stores package their own bakery's flour and sugar in plastic bags and stick a price on them. They can get all the institutional flour they desire. They can't get enough of the ones in the nice paper wrapper for all the new people baking bread at home.
     
  5. blissett

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    Why, exactly, since we had peacefully gone on for some hundred pages on the other one?

    Not questioning, just curious: what's the logic behind openining a new thread and doing it just now?
     
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  6. Val1

    Val1 Member+

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    Mar 12, 2004
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    So we can get 20 more people on the first page.

    It's an old BS tradition to claim 1st page.
     
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  7. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    A good compendium of the pandumbic reaponse:


     
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  8. +PL+

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    I know some countries are under-reporting their covid-19 cases and some are over-reporting (a few are denying the existence of any case). Iran is among former countries.

    According to BBC news, Iranian Parliamentary center of research estimated the real number of cases in Iran to be 600,000 people and 8600 related death. The official number of Iranian health ministry is 76,000 cases and 4777 death.

    The truth is coming out little by little. I hope Russia, China and other countries which shamelessly manipulate the numbers to a large scale, come out clean eventually.
     
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  9. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
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    Rolling Stone would write that. But it's not wrong. This response will be covered in the high school textbooks, outside of Texas, and the analysis won't be flattering.
     
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  10. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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  11. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Moderators are a stupidface.
     
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  12. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    That's an interesting aspect to this that highlights something I've tried to explain to various Libertarians over the years...

    Speaking as someone who spent 40+ years in business, that way you think capitalism works... yeah, that's not how it works.

    It is QUITE possible for capitalism to do all the dumbest things imaginable and create massive inefficiencies and yet be following all the basic rules of 'capitalism'.

    It's true to say that, over a period of time, free markets can direct goods and services to where they're needed but it's also possible they'll direct them to who has the money to pay for them instead.

    So, even if it does work 'properly', it doesn't mean the outcome is always the best for the society as a whole and, in any event, (as you say), it often doesn't work 'properly'.
     
  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Because otherwise we wouldn't be able to see this sort of thing as the threads second post...

    AMIRITE?! :)

    i keeed, I keeed :giggle:
     
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  14. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Page? I thought it was the post number?

    As you can see Blisset, some traditions are better understood than others, particularly among those of us that are old and forget shit :(
     
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  15. blissett

    blissett Member+

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    Well, if the tradition is the 1st page, then I (accidentally) claim 1st page. :p
     
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  16. blissett

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    This cracked me up. :laugh:
     
  17. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

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  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

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    I wish that it weren't a joke.
     
  19. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Happy Bday dude! All the best.
     
  20. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    I miss me some untruncated weasels
     
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  21. russ

    russ Member+

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    At one point(I think) it had something to do with pageloading .If a thread just went on forever,it led to lag when people reloaded.
    Now once a thread hits 10000 posts we start a new one.
     
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  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    5.25 M added to the unemployment line. Those are numbers but needless to say, behind that, real people are hurting out there.

    The Labor Department announced U.S. weekly jobless claims totaled 5.245 million last week, compared to an estimate of 5.0 million by economists.
    More than 20 million Americans have now filed for unemployment in the last month
     
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  23. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    But I read on the internet that this was going to be over by July. Don’t remember exactly where on the internet, but I remember seeing it stated over and over and over and......over.
     
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  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    I see what you are doing here. :ROFLMAO:
    That dude has apparently taken a break from BS. Bye Felicia.....
     
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  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Crony capitalism sucks and TrumpCo are experts at it.
     
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