Covid-19: Vax Americana

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  1. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair,Big Pharma is shady as fcvk.But I don't know how to make a vaccine,so I'm stuck with them on this one.
     
  2. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a way of deflecting both personal responsibility and hope.
    The reality of our post modern age is horrifying,and it was before COVID.
     
  3. Well, before it can be roled out in the future it has to be approved by alot of bureaus I guess.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My county is down from an average of 60 +ve tests a day one month ago to 20 based on a seven day moving average.

    53.6% have received one shot and 40% are fully vaccinated.
     
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  5. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is a great piece of news.....Right thing to do by the administration. I can't even imagine what the former guy administration would have done,..

     
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  6. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    About damn time.
     
  7. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well yeah, what are we going to do? FIFA is shady too, but that hasn't stopped me from enjoying the product.
     
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  8. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Unfortunately - based on what I'm seeing in the media - that will make virtually no material difference to getting doses into poor countries, for at least a year.
     
  9. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Hopefully I’m not the 4th, got my apt booked for a first jab Friday evening, in Woodbridge.

    Which is nowhere near my house, of course. I literally haven’t been up there since I was a working as a house painter there in the mid nineties.

    Borrowing my folks car to get there as there aren’t any decent transit options, sigh, whatever - it’s a jab.
     
  10. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Great news pete. Crazy location I agree.
     
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  11. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Luckily out here in BC we seem to be on our down slope for the 3rd wave. Under 600 cases reported today. Back under 475 for hospital admissions.

    Alberta meanwhile...oyyyyy.
     
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  12. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is about giving countries that have the capabilities to produce there vaccines directly to do so rapidly and effectively. India, South Africa, Japan, other nations do have the technology to do so. That Weill allow massive uplift in production all over the world. Poorer countries will also be able to receive the vaccines much earlier as well. It is the right thing to do.
    PS..******** the Pharma industry...I heard them whining today about that decision. Bunch of scums and leeches.
     
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  13. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    We had just shy of 3k in ON and about 1k in Toronto proper.

    Ford and Kenney seem to be trying to outdo each other...
     
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pfizer is set to make $26 billion.
     
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  15. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I know all that, but my undestanding is that poor countries simply don't have the required production infrastructure and technology to produce the doses themselves - it will take them a long time to do so - and countries that are currently producing doses are at max output already.

    I hope I'm completely wrong but the tv news reports I watched earlier were all doing their best to tamper down expectations.

    Do you have a source that predicts poor-country production in 2021? Please share if you do.
     
  16. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except in this case, that isn't true. The folks that run the school are major Republican donors/activists with ties to Trump's campaign.
     
  17. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't like this enough.
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pfizer chairman and CEO Albert Bourla has reiterated his company’s commitment to making the Pfizer vaccine available in India “through government channels”. The company has ample manufacturing capacity. Between Pfizer and BioNTech (which jointly own the vaccine), the capacity is expected to reach 2.5 billion doses a year by the end of 2021.

    India isn't a poor country. It has hundreds of millions of poor people but it's not a poor country. It's the sixth biggest economy in the world.

    India's problem is that they didn't anticipate the need and make the necessary arrangements with the drugs companies.

    It also has production facilities that are underused or can be repurposed.
     
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  19. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Sorry I'm not talking about India. I'm thinking more of, say, PNG or Nepal or Cambodia.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine Aus would take care of PSG and India of Nepal as its in their interest.

    As of April 13 PSG had 588,000 doses for a population of 8.7M.

    Just checked and Australia is supplying PNG with some doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine. Meanwhile Aussie cricketers and media are stranded in India following the cancelation of the Indian Premier League season.

    Nepal has administered 2.6 million AZ doses for a 28 million population and appealed for 1.8 million more to complete second doses.

    Cambodia will receive 1.1 million AZ doses from India by the end of May which would serve 20% of the population.
     
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  21. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yes, conservative governments in Canada really aren't doing a great job of representing their abilities to govern in a pandemic.
     
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  22. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PSG? Watching some Champions League this week? ;):p
     
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  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only the last 20 minutes of Chelski vs. the Royals. Can't stand either Manchester club.
     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's up from an average decline of 2%.

    So the pandemic has probably had an affect but I'd also suggest that the drop in legal immigration under Trump has had an impact reflected in the drop in the Hispanic birth-rate.

    "While the birth rate has declined among both U.S.-born and foreign-born women, immigrant women saw the biggest decline, from 90.7 births per 1,000 women in 2000 down to 77.4 in 2017. Among U.S.-born women, the birth rate dropped from 60.9 to 56.2.Aug 8, 2019." - Pew Research

    The drop in native and inuit American communities is almost certainly pandemic related as they've been ravaged. Interesting that the Asian community saw the biggest fall, despite by far the lowest death rate.

    Note that the CDC did not specifically blame the pandemic.
     

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