COVID-19 and coaching

Discussion in 'Coach' started by elessar78, Jun 27, 2020.

  1. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wanted to make a separate thread for this. Don't want this to be a political thread. Please share your sources if you make a claim. Please be civil.

    I'm seeing a lot of variability in how clubs are approaching this if they have reopened. Even variability within clubs depending on who the coach is. Some are social distancing, some partly (so is that no social distancing?, and some are just saying F-it and no protocol at all.

    My personal experience is my club is doing a small setting: 5v5 scrimmages. Kids are spaced apart during breaks. They get in and out—no congregating before or after. It adheres to our area hospital, state health Dept guidelines. Our county is lightly affected by Covid. Our local hospital had two cases (jumped to 8 last night). Adjacent counties to the north are very quiet, while counties south have growing case counts still. Now with air travel increasing and people getting back out.

    Looking at National and regional trends, not sure if even playing Travel ( playing clubs in other counties) is going to be wise in the fall. We opened for summer because the case counts locally were almost zero.

    here's an interesting article from NPR about YMCA childcare centers across the country staying open during the early days of the pandemic. They watched the 40,000 children of essential workers and had no infection clusters.
    https://www.npr.org/2020/06/24/8823...are-centers-that-stayed-open-during-lockdowns
     
  2. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    The pandemic is a perfect excuse to keep parents away.
     
  3. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good luck with that. The "I know my rights" crowd are just looking for a fight over this.

    Our club isn't active in the summer, but we have opened registration for the fall season to begin mid-August. At this point, though, I wonder if that's even going to happen with the current rise in cases. In my area, it feels like people think we're done with the virus so another wave is likely sooner than later.
     
  4. jmnva

    jmnva Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    My state association (VA) just released Phase 3 guidelines today. For travel players our club has been following the guidelines very closely. The one difference is that since my county was a little behind the rest of the state in moving to Phase 2, the club is being very careful and might delay a week or so before moving to Phase 3.

    For Rec we don't have summer programming but have opened registration for the fall with a lot of caveats about how the fall season may end up looking different than a typical season
     
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  5. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    For reference, what do the phases mean in your state? Is 2 better than 3?
     
  6. jmnva

    jmnva Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    The opposite-- Phase 3 is better than phase 2.

    In phase 2 teams could practice but had to continue to social distance.
    In phase 3 games are allowed.
     
  7. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Any limits? Here we are capped at 10 on field participants, Inthink.
     
  8. jmnva

    jmnva Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    For practices players are supposed to stay 10 feet apart.
    Beyond that I don't know of any limits.

    TBH- I'm not engaged on the rules yet because all activity is on the travel side of the house. Rec is still dormant
     
  9. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    Most of the youth clubs around here have cancelled the upcoming season, citing an increase in cases, not yet released guidelines from US Soccer, unopened municipal fields, and undue burden on coaches to implement guidelines.
     
  10. Buckingham Badger

    May 28, 2003
    Here is US Soccer's explanation of Phase 1 - Phase 2 - phase 3 and phase 4.
    https://www.ussoccer.com/playon

    I only see phase 1 and 2 which is ok as my state is in phase 2 but my county we just moved back to phase 1.
    General guidelines are:
    Phase 1 - social distancing, no contact - 6 ft apart, minimum #s together (under 6 /coach or field) - We as a club to be a good community member will not practice under those guidelines as we should stay at home if our community is in that.
    Phase 2 - teams can start to practice together, but social distancing rules apply when not at play. No picking up ball for throw ins, balls cleaned before/after practice.
    Phase 3 - games can occur (not sure of format/spectators, etc
    Phase 4 - back to normal, no restrictions.

    Our club had been holding out hope to do tryouts (had to be done by mid-July with offers out then) but we ended up cancelling them. We only had rec for U9/U10 and split rec and competitive at U11. We've pushed that to U13- so U11 and U12 will be by age. Some parents are really upset. meh- the kids will be happy (except for 1 kid who is brainwashed by his Dad)

    We expect registration to end about down about 10% in numbers YOY. We've heard from the league that we play in that the U9/U10s #s are way down for most clubs as parents are hesitant and there is a conversation of how do we put teams together. I was hoping for a move of U9/10 to 5v5 from 7v7, U11/12 to 7v7, U13/14 to 9v9 but the initial response to the league from clubs is that they fields are set. Expect to see lot more player passes and I can guarantee you that one club we play will have several 6' tall boys with facial hair on their U11 team. Parents and coaches suck.
     
  11. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I was shocked to learn today that Florida has 7,000+ covid cases in kids under age 17. Many parts of the world, europe, Asia, Israel, new
    Zealand have all reopened schools with little or no outbreaks. Florida isn't even in school yet.
     
  12. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    Children aren't immune. They have lower rates of exposure with schools closed (and sane parents).
     
  13. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I need to vent. Our state association sent a list of "imperatives" yesterday, and upon reading through them, I'm not so sure I even want my club to try to play this fall. Between social distancing and mask rules for players, coaches, referees, and (worst of all) spectators, I don't know that my club has the capacity to take it on. Our in-house rec program hires 3 referees to run the older divisions' games on Sundays and 1 "field marshal" to wander around and make sure there aren't any issues. Those 4 are usually high school kids. Our coaches are all volunteers. Ultimately, it will fall to our board to enforce all these rules on a bunch of volunteer coaches and the players and spectators. I don't want to spend my evenings away from my family being the social distancing police. I'm really discouraged thinking about what the season would look like at this point, and frankly, with the Covid numbers going back up across the country, I think Sean Doolittle was right. "Sports are like the reward of a functioning society." (https://www.golfdigest.com/story/sean-doolittle-said-it-all--sports-are-a-reward-for-a-functionin) We're not a functioning society at this point so why the hell are we even trying to get "extras" like sports back up and going?
     
  14. TCRZero

    TCRZero New Member

    Columbus Crew
    Jan 7, 2019
    We are allowed to practice with contact and scrimmage within the club per Ohio rules, but we are only doing unopposed work for now and are using the older more restrictive guidelines put in place by the State.

    We started back this week, working on conditioning, passing and 11v0 patterns of play. We are enforcing distancing during water breaks, and on the field keeping players separated roughly by zones.

    That said, parents are still car-pooling and players are getting together outside of practice. It was especially self-defeating when a bunch of player siblings started a pickup game next to our practice last night.

    The big question for everyone is competitive play - how/when do we start games?
    I understand that this isn't easy and becomes a question of weighing safety vs. recreation, and not everyone has the same values.

    Ohio is essentially not allowing amateur contact sports competition with this stipulation for tournaments and games for contact sports:
    • Athletes and team staff members must receive a negative COVID-19 test result before traveling to competition; and, a PCR COVID-19 test must be administered to each athlete and team staff member participating in the competition no more than 72 hours prior to the start of the competition and the results must be in hand prior to the state of the competition.
    Typical politicians - Too cowardly to just say no, instead we craft impossible-to-meet regulations.
     
  15. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    In some instances the private companies are charging $6000 per Covid 19 test unless you have government insurance (then its $200).

    If testing of healthy people without symptoms is available and covered by insurance, what is the charge to the parents?
     

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