Covid-19: American Acceptionalism

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  1. Covid-19: American Acceptionalism

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  3. Covid-19: Killing in the Name

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  4. Covid-19: But my Freedom!

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  1. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    No breaks given. How does one know one is healthy and not asymptomatic ?
     
  2. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    My sister in England got her first Pfizer jab this past week. She said it went well, mostly just arm soreness and a bit of fatigue that day.

    But, she was quite alarmed by the number of nurses declining a jab though.

    I'm hoping people come around and it becomes monkey see, monkey do, but obtaining herd immunity is definitely going to be a massive challenge for every country.
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    My Mother just took the first shot today. No reactions so far.
     
  4. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I've mentioned elsewhere that there is a lot of people in healthcare that don't believe in vaccines. They will believe in the new age wellness influencer crap.

    My employers are mentioning getting a system set up for us to have a vaccine.
     
  5. InTheSun

    InTheSun Member+

    Oct 20, 2005
    The Andes Mountains
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Thanks, we desperately need it in the smaller developing countries. They don't have the purchasing power of the more developed nations so are last in line to get vaccines.
     
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  7. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    965,000 new unemployment claims.

     
  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trevor Bedford has another good thread on the emergence of a number of variants that are increasingly infectious and are raising concerns about making the vaccine's less effective.

    The tweet below is probably the most interesting part as I hadn't heard it before. He's hypothesizing that the mutations are because of chronic covid cases where the virus is mutating due to pressure being put on the virus by the body's immune system.

     
  10. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    The layoffs are most likely a result of companies trying to make their bottom lines look better for EOFY. We had to lay people off a week before Christmas because our clients were making cuts at the end of the year to make numbers look better.
     
  11. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    What in the actual ******** is going on in Spain?

    They just exploded for new cases the last 2 or 3 days. Huge increases.

    The said yesterday had about 5k cases of back reporting, and perhaps today does too.

    But even after deducting that, it's a very alarming spike.

    Has B117 spread its wings yet again?
     
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  12. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    result of New Year get-togethers?
     
  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing I find interesting about these variants is that they are all occurring in countries where the coronavirus is running rampant, which makes me wonder where the US variant is. According to Bedford, chronic covid is extremely rare, so it makes sense that in countries where it is spreading quickly you'd find more people that have chronic covid and that this means a better chance of a variant evolving..

    One thing I saw a couple of weeks ago when the UK variant was first identified was that the UK was mapping the genome on as many of the positive cases they could, while the US isn't necessarily doing. Additionally, the UK is releasing the results of that mapping in only a few days after it was collected, while the US is running a week or more behind on the few mappings they do perform.
     
  14. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My wife got her first shot on Monday. She told me that about forty percent of the people she supervises, when offered the vaccine, chose not to take it. This is at a hospital in San Francisco - UCSF Medical Center - and with a very diverse crew.

    Many people simply don't trust the government and they don't trust the pharmaceutical companies.
     
  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are so screwed... The US will never get covid under control at this rate.. If only 60% of medical professionals are refusing to get a vaccination, it is going to be much lower among the general population..
     
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  16. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    We are in so much trouble!

    Xmas/New Year's boom, and it sounds like the virus has mutated enough in response to human immune system to cause an even worse 2nd wave. The vaccine probably doesn't provide immunity for more than a year, even if that.
     
  17. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    My wife got vaccinated Tuesday and didn't mention any large amount of people at her hospital not getting shots.
     
  18. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Well, it is San Francisco, the world capitol of anti-vaxx Karens.
     
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  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I’ve seen in a few articles and tweets is that 60% vaccination rate is roughly the rate for healthcare workers.


    With many hospitals requiring their workers to be up to date on vaccines, including flu, one would think anti-vaxxers would be a pretty low percentage..
     
  20. Futbol_Head

    Futbol_Head Member+

    Manchester United
    Aug 18, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got vaccinated right before Christmas. Other than a little arm soreness and Bill Gates trying to communicate with me telepathically I am fine.

    Got my second dose lined up for inauguration day, and I hear it comes with built in 5g.
     
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  21. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    You get free HBO Max with that?
     
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  22. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think there are a couple of reasons you may not want to take the vaccine.

    1 - General unhealthy distrust of vaccines/Gov/Pharma/Bill Gates.
    2 - The vaccine is new and people may want to wait a bit to feel safer since it was developed very fast. Basically let others be the guinea pigs first.

    Honestly I can understand the 2nd reason.
     
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  23. About the UK and SA variant it is said people infected with it have a far higher virus load in their throats, thus spreading more viruses,
    but also that the virus itself has improved it's spikes to be more successful in penetrating human cells.
    So a double whammy.
    Carehome in the Netherlands with a large outbreak of the UK-virus.
     
  24. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    That would be wealthy and white Marin County to the north of San Francisco.
     
  25. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    You are in the Bay Area, the home of new age whoo whoo hippies.

    Given that I've seen Biden get the vaccine, I trust it. I can see why minorities are rightfully distrustful, but whenever I hear a well off white person say it, it's usually something about feeling and natural type things.
     

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