Count Down to the Gold Cup

Discussion in 'Caribbean' started by touppouyo, Feb 1, 2007.

  1. chec

    chec Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    Toronto
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Trinidad and Tobago
    T&T hosted the under 17 youth WC in 2001 and all games were sold out.
    So maybe the GC can be hosted in another country and have good attendance.
     
  2. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    if the gold cup was in el salvador ,i do think they would show up to see mexico vs the u.s. or Mexico vs costa rica or Costa rica vs honduras
     
  3. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    I would like to think you are more intelligent than that. This team is the same one that played in Digi Cup and they are the 'C' team. They are the current representatives but you don't see any players from the 'A" squad on tour there do you.

    Here is some footage of at least two players that would make a difference. Take a look and see how both soca warriors scored.;)

    http://www.zippyvideos.com/5816466676607356/sunderland_2_coventry_0/
     
  4. FlashEP

    FlashEP New Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Waltham, MA
    Soca Warriors bow heads: T&T outplayed by Costa Rica
    By: Ian Prescott (Trinidad Express)

    "I don't know if a lot of these players can make the next step," stated Trinidad and Tobago head coach Wim Rijsbergen.
    "It was not a hard game...this is just the reality. We can see that making the next level will be a very difficult one. I guarantee that if we go with this team to Chile, for instance, it will be a much tougher game than this."
    A cold dose of reality was administered on Sunday at the Morera Soto Stadium in Alajuela, Costa Rica, where the Ticos outplayed Trinidad and Tobago's Soca Warriors by a 4-0 margin, matching previous victories in 1998 and 1966. But neither of those outcomes is likely to be as comprehensive. A goal on either side of half-time by Alonso Solis (43rd and 52nd) and one apiece from Harold Wallace (31st) and Rolando Fonseca (57th) did the job for the home team.
    That left Rijsbergen wondering which of these players are good enough to keep their place and vowing to continue the search for hidden talent.
    At times, Sunday's match looked like a training session as the Costa Ricans ran rings around bewildered T&T players, defeating them with rudimentary one-two combinations, wall passes, or simple body movements.
    The Ticos were flying at times, while the Warriors always travelled in slow motion. As Costa Rica played as though on a chess board, every move taking an opponent out of position, the technical inefficiencies of his players was not lost on Rijsbergen, a former World Cup defender with Holland.
    "You see how easy people run around and go in the back of some of these players that's their level. We must be careful that guys don't just use us as training partners and then they blow us off the field. That's not what we are looking for," the Dutchman said. "That's why we need to mix these players with ones in England, to make these players better. It is very tough."
    The onslaught began within the opening 30 seconds when Costa Rica had the ball in the back of the T&T net from a free-kick. But, although a home player was called offside by referee Ricardo Cerdas, a pattern was set. The Soca Warriors were always chasing shadows and conceding goals from poor defending.
    Blame belonged to no one player, not even goalkeeper Jan Michael Williams, although his slippery finger-tips led to the opening goal. His defenders were taken out when Costa Rican striker Fonseca allowed a pass to run, making dummies of Osei Telesford and Nigel Daniel, and allowing overlapping midfielder Wallace to collect the ball behind them in the box. Wallace, who started the play at the half-line, then made an elementary cross into the box, which the keeper tipped into his goal.
    Kerry Baptiste also never came to terms with the off-the-ball runs from Ticos left midfielder Leonardo Gonzales, who cut in-field with regularity, leaving the Jabloteh midfielder always struggling to keep up.
    Anticipating Fonseca would pass the ball around the back of T&T right back Seon Power, Gonzales again left Baptiste and squared a pass to Solis for an easy second goal from the centre of the penalty area.
    Seeing his right flank looking like an open highway, Rijsbergen replaced Baptiste with a fighting Kwayne Wiltshire, who did marginally better.
    Televison statistics showed the Soca Warriors having a paltry 40 per cent of possession, while they had not a single shot on goal in the first half.
    His deceptive flair still made Kerwin Jemmott one of the few Soca Warriors playing comfortably against the Ticos. He could not match their fitness or work-rate, but because Jemmott could also produce clever flicks and little shimmies, the Costa Rican midfielders approached him carefully.
    Captain Densill Theobald also showed his World Cup experience, but once the two T&T central midfielders were not involved, the ball was lost.
    Theobald said the game went beyond just the difficulty of playing a good Costa Rican team.
    "The result was a disgrace to us. Especially after all the work we put in, and after so much the coach put in. Beside being quick players, they played a faster brand and there was always plenty movement off the ball. We get that from Central American players these days.
    "But, life goes on. We will see this as a learning experience and, hopefully, we will be able to move on from this. I hope the boys learn from watching them and playing against them. I hope they can use it to their advantage to work on their own game. Games like these can only help us along the way. Tougher opponents and opponents we can learn from will help us to grow and move from strength to strength," Theobald added.
    Assistant national coach Anton Corneal said the reality shows that T&T Pro League football is not getting local players up to international level at the moment, a statement supported wholly by Rijsbergen.
    "You see the level these players come from, and the big problem they
    have in coming up to the next level," said Rijsbergen. "In the Digicel Cup, we played against teams of the same level, and the next step will be very difficult. It's not just the physical part, it's the speed of the game, that's the physical fitness. There's also the mental part of the game if you want to win.
    Yes or no."
    Rijsbergen had no choice but to pull off Baptiste, though the Jabloteh midfielder was not the only one fooled by the blind runs. Wiltshire and Daniel allowed Gonzales to ghost between them, then lay off to Solis, who ran in and slapped a low shot past Williams for the third goal.
    And later, Daniel failed to pay attention to the player sneaking up behind him and had no answer when Gonzales' teasing cross reached Fonseca at the far post. A neat stab and Costa Rica had a fourth.
    Striker Darryl Roberts did better than any of the T&T forwards, getting a free header but turning over Christian Baptiste's cross, then later setting up Theobald for a shot straight at keeper Jose Francisco Poras.
    However, bewildered faces and bowed heads told the Soca Warriors' story as they approached the team bus. Roberts' disappointment was no less hidden as he recounted the night's happenings.
    "It was tough out there. The Central American teams do a lot of running off the ball. They really killed us with that. We needed to pay attention to holding onto our man tonight and we didn't. Hopefully, we will learn from the experience."
    Rijsbergen cautioned that players who want to be part of his CONCACAF Gold Cup and 2010 World Cup squads have to be prepared to do work besides just training with the national team. He said all great players have found ways to improve themselves apart from the rest.
    "We will analyse these games and say to each other which of these guys are good enough to make the next level. We will also look for some new players in the US, also in any part of the world and we need to look at the Pro League. If they drop back in the same speed and the same level in the Pro League, they will probably never make the difference," Rijsbergen pointed out, probably hoping deep down that at least one or two of the current squad still prove him wrong.
     
  5. touppouyo

    touppouyo New Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    The team is made of the best available players who were hand picked by the official coach under the supervision of the legal national association. If that's a C-team, so your national football can only produce a C-team unless you enjoy losing 4-0 and getting beaten at home :eek:
     
  6. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    The best available players come from Jabloteh and W Connection which 90% of the squad from both teams are not in that 'C' squad that played in Panama and Costa Rica. If anybody should know you should since your Baltimore team got bitch slapped by Jabloteh in the CFU club championships but you didn't remember that did you?:p

    It's obvious the coach picked the same players that played in the Digi Cup and not the best possible players.....he did say the purpose of taking those players is to have a look at them so I wouldn't put too much into the teams losses since that is expected when you are experimenting and looking at players. I'm sure you'll see a much stronger Soca Warriors squad at the GC compared to the one you saw at the Digicel tournament!:)
     
  7. Trin

    Trin Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    pa
    Disappointing loss to CR but we have to take the losses now with these younger guys and let them gain experience through this. Yes no one likes to loose, so when scheduling friendlies we have to make sure and stick in Haiti or SVG in there, ;) but other than that, after having a couple of days to think about it, I don't really care too much that we lost to, what is in effect, Costa Rica's gold cup team (minus the guys who play internationally of course but we all know that most of CRs team is mostly local)

    Better we loose now and find out our deficiencies, see who cannot make it at this level and move on. Thats what FRIENDLIES are for.

    When is Haiti's next match?
     
  8. FlashEP

    FlashEP New Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Waltham, MA

    oh ok, now i see. Thanks for explaining it us. I understand now......so you guys knew u were gonna get humiliated. What are you talking about "bitch slapped", and if that's the case i'd rather get bitch slapped in my opponent's stadium than in front of my own country, stadium, and fans. Being a "C" had nothing to do with it, the soca warriors coach knew you guys were hosting and you'll probably win it all with the help of your fans behind you.

    And for the record the Trinidad national team and clubs have both had the advantages of playing bpth CFU's big competitions at home. I think it's a rip-off.
     
  9. Trin

    Trin Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    pa
    You sure you want to keep this post up
     
  10. touppouyo

    touppouyo New Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    BEST AVAILABLE PLAYERS. Do you have problem understanding that simple statement :eek:

    BTW, who cares your current national team doesn't have some of the players you think are the best choices for your country. THE FACT is your officials picked the players they want to represent the country at the moment. Calling the team A-, B-, or C-team because the team lost three in a row including a 4-0 thrashing makes you a sore loser. :p

    This so-called c-team actually did better in digicup than the A-team, which finished third behind Jamaica and Cuba in the last digicup and lost to SKN and A&B in the early rounds.
     
  11. Trin

    Trin Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    pa
    I think you guys are all blowing this out of proportion Brazil lost 2-0 to Portugal today too with a team many won't consider their best but it was a FRIENDLY if we loose now it will hurt our pride a bit but thats what these games are for to experiment. Yes this is not our best team and yes who ever represents us is our national team, both warlord and you are right. At least we are playing right now and seeing our faults what is your team doing?
     
  12. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    No. I never said the team expected to get humiliated but losing to a very strong Costa Rican squad when experimenting and/or looking at other players is not the worse thing that can happen. The purpose of that 2 game tour was to expose this "C" team to a faster brand of football outside of CFU and for the players to see/gain experience playing against this type of opposition.

    The mere fact that this team competed well in the Digi Cup shows that even a weakened T&T can do well against Caribbean opponents but not the case against strong Concacaf teams like Costa Rica.;)

    And no the clubs don't always benefit. Lose with dignity.:p and stop making excuses. When you won the Digi Cup title you were happy beating the TNT 'C' team and I gave you credit but when you lose mere days later... all of a sudden it becomes a disadvantage to the Haitian club:confused:
     
  13. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    What do you know about TTFF? You imbecile...the coach picks the players not the federation:eek:

    Everyone at warriornation acknowledged this was 'C" team at the start of the Digicel Cup prior to their first game vs Barbados not after the losses as you seem to think. No one has sour grapes at all because they know the players that got picked for the tournament was based on the fact that W Connection and Jabloteh players were unavailable due to the CFU commitments.

    You seem to be hard of hearing.....but that i guess is expected since english is rather difficult for you haitians:p
     
  14. touppouyo

    touppouyo New Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    Retarded. The officials of a team are those who are legally in charge of the team and that inludes the coach. For instance, Connection and Jabloteh are both under the rules of your national association TTFF, but they have different officials.

    Homework:
    Write a list of the following officials:
    a) Officials of your national football.
    b) Officials of your national team.
    c) Officials of your U-17 team.
    d) Officials of a football match.
    (Pst: you will need the help of a real Trinidadian;) )

    Malvo, it's now obvious that you have problems understanding simple English statements. However, I have no interest in educating a retarded kid like you. Sorry.

    I did tell you once that it wasn't a good idea for you to drop out of elementary school. Now, you are showing some serious cognitive problems. However, I know a cure for that: GO BACK TO SCHOOL, retarded :eek:
     
  15. Trin

    Trin Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    pa
    T&T are away to Chile March 25th.
    The coach hopes to have at least a few of the overseas based pros for this one should be a good testing game for us. :D
     
  16. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Link????

    Metro
     
  17. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    You imbecile:eek: if anyone dropped out of school you did and that is obvious. The Federation doesn't pick the team the coach/manager does. Since the Digicel Cup was NOT a FIFA sanctioned tournament clubs were not obligated to release their players...do you get it now dumbass or do I have to spell it out for you.:p

    You need to stop taking crack ....I think your brains are fried!!!.Ever seen the add with the fried egg?
     
  18. Trin

    Trin Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    pa
  19. touppouyo

    touppouyo New Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    I see you're cornered. Your lack of education betrays you again. Sorry.

    Can you still try to come up with a list of the officials of your national team? :) Please, do. I won't embarrass you. I will just show you how slow you are, which should come at no surprise to you :eek:

    To give you a hand, is the coach/manager an official of the team or not? :)

    (Pst:Crack and You share the same nationality, lil' Malvo. Think about it!)
     
  20. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    Hahaha...you Haitians are morons. I wouldn't continue to waste my time speaking to you creole idiots..ok:eek:
     
  21. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Ah comon Warlord...you know you'r obssesed with Haitians.;) 90% of your posts are about Haiti :eek: Why dont you give us some news on your national team l instead of talking about Haiti all the time. Whats going on with the Reggea boyz? Whats going on in the league, when is there next friendly ?etc etc. I'm starting to think you became a member of this forum only to talk about Haiti. I've been going threw your posts...and most of theme really are about Haiti. That's sad dont you think?
     
  22. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    Not necessarily. I don't speak about Haiti near as much as you think. If anything...I defend Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago since I have ties to both nations.

    I don't post too much here about the boyz because there arent many fans on BS. I post regularly over on the reggaeboyzsc site. You should visit some time when you get a chance.

    Look, I'll admit to this....you seem to be a very intelligent individual unlike your countryman Tappayo.:) I seriously think he has internal issues. I think he's one of those individuals that suffer from a low sperm count and /or erectile dysfunction:D

    Tappayo if you're listening.......go see a specialist.:p
     
  23. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Not many Jamaicans on this forum but would still be nice to know whats going on over there. Like i've said before, most Haitians support Jamaica or Trinidad or any other Carribean team, when they're not competing with Haiti.
     
  24. touppouyo

    touppouyo New Member

    Sep 6, 2006

    Why are you worrying about a man's 'sperm count and/or erectile dysfunction'? Uh, my God! You are a fgt, aren't you?:eek: That explains it all ;)
     
  25. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    hahahaha...if anybody promotes sodom and gomorrah it's you son. He who speaks it ...knows it:p :D
     

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