Could Cavan Sullivan be our Lamine Yamal in WC 2026?

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  1. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    #601 Maximum Optimal, Jul 22, 2026
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    Disagree. If Cavan were to disappear we still have 3 or 4 very good to elite prospects at his position. Reynaga. Gordon. Dills. Garcia. That is what is changing.
     
  2. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    1G4A in 540 minutes this season. At age 16. Those are Yamal numbers. :) He is also 12th in successful dribbles per-90(min 500 min played).
     
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  3. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not think any of those players are Cavan type prospects. Cavan is the next in line in terms of a Pulisic/Reyna type prospect and neither of those guys are that. And Pulisic is a success despite not being a world class player and Reyna is not with injuries being a big reason why.

    It’s the Gozo, Mehmeti, Hall, Albert, Kochen tier of prospects who maybe are not quite Cavan level but not far off that we’re really counting on. But even then we don’t have enough of those guys compared to countries like France, Spain, England, etc.

    It all comes down to volume.
     
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  4. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m expecting a big jump the second half of the season and that he’ll be invited to what is now December camp.
     
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  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Cavan is doing fine.

    He's the 2nd youngest player to appear in an MLS game this year. Only Arana of Houston was younger (and he just made one garbage time appearance for 2 minutes)

    Other than Arana....................the four youngest players to appear in MLS this year have been Cavan Sullivan, Malik Jakupovic, Adri Mehmeti, and Jude Terry, Doing pretty well there.

    Yamine Yamal finished 2nd in the Ballon d'Or voting last year. For Heaven's sake, we all know THAT expectation for Cavan is going overboard.

    But we're fans. Fans being short for fanatics. There's nothing saying we can't be irrational and have fun projecting when it comes to prospects.

    If people want to know how our domestic development programs are trending, Cavan Sullivan ISN'T amongst the 50 youngest players in MLS Next Pro this season. USYNTer Da'vian Kimbrough, who just appeared for North Texas for the first time, is 43rd at 16 years old 4 monhts.
     
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  6. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Yamals age 16 year was 37 appearances and 5 goals right? Youre resident stat producer
     
  7. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    He's on 0.83g/a per 90. He doesn't need a big jump. He just needs to keep it up while the minutes increase.
     
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  8. The Clientele

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    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It really does come down to volume and statistics. When a country statistically produces a high enough volume of elite players, they are able to absorb the inevitable reality of injuries, motivational drift, and players simply not taking that next step in their development journey. Unfortunately, when we look back in 8 years on these names - Gozo, Mehmeti, Hall, Albert, Kochen - some of them will be quaint reminders of “what could have been.”

    The big soccer countries have such large talent pools coming through their pipeline they can account for the statistical attrition.
     
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  9. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    3 goals 10 assists in 1200 minutes would be a great season for Cavan.
     
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  10. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Konrad de la Fuente.
     
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  11. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    This is indeed the issue. We all have so many guys we can think of who were the next exciting prospect who didn’t hit for a variety of reasons. And that’s completely normal but we don’t have the volume to survive such attrition and have an elite team.
     
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  12. TrustingtheProcess

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 11, 2021
    Philadelphia, USA
    Also important to note, he's been putting up these numbers for the worst team in the league. They seemed to start to turn a corner right before break and Sullivan was arguably the best attacker the last couple weeks. Their best player is also about to come back from a lengthy injury too which will help.

    He'll start games (likely tonight) but I do think his minutes will be managed over the rest of the year.
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    10 assists is a good season for anyone. :)

    As of this moment, the leading USMNT-eligible assisters in MLS. Not many will get to 10, but let's see.

    Berhalter 7
    Tsakiris 7
    Gozo 5
    Frederick 5
    Ferreira 5
    Leroux 5
    Cowell 5
    Becher 5

    [Wayne Frederick is still US-eligible, but perhaps not for long.]

    Cavan's brother Quinn is back, so we'll see how he's deployed. I have to remind myself how excited I was for Quinn before his injury last year. He had legitimately earned that Gold Cup callup. Maybe play will start going thru him and HE will be the guy picking up the assists.

    Last year's version of Tsakiris.

    We're talking a lot about the teens like Cavan Sullivan, but there's that slightly older crew that's worthy of USMNT consideration too. Olympics eligible guys. Wolff, Tsakiris, and company. Ferreira, as a playmaker, is only 25 years old. Anyway............I veered off course.
     
  14. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    I didn't read it like that, I read it like

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  15. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Law of large numbers and all of that jazz.
     
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  16. The Clientele

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    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A few years back folks on this board were going bananas over Konrad and a vision of his impact on the team.

    Does he actually still play soccer professionally?
     
  17. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    In Switzerland.
     
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  18. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
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    Austin Aztex
    #618 Dervos, Jul 22, 2026
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    I mean, he played in the Champions League with Barca before he reached 20. I think it's okay people got a bit excited.

    -edit-
    I'll add Owen Otasowie to whatever list this is. Guy went from seeing the field in the premier league as a teen to completely out of soccer before he reached 21. I don't think it was about talent in either of these two cases...
     
  19. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Totally. I get it.

    I was excited too.

    But he’s a great example of youthful talent that doesnt come to senior team fruition.
     
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  20. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    So far, so good from Cavan.

    1 key pass
    6/6 dribbles
    2/3 crosses
    2/4 long balls
    9/12 grnd duels
    1/1 fouls/fouled

    FM(7.9)5th
     
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  21. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Young man played very well today. Looked much more comfortable and free in his role.

    I’ll be on the lookout for a comp. He was really impressive.
     
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  22. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These two are head cases for sure.

    De la Fuente just doesn't want to work on his God-given talent. He used to prefer partying during the week. I wonder if he matures. He is one year younger than Weah.
     
  23. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas


    Looks like a full comp. Good and bad. Defensive effort is there. He looks like he may have a little bit of bite and anticipation defensively.

    On the ball it’s fun to think about what he might become. He can pass, shoot and dribble. He can put his foot on the ball and control tempo. He runs off the ball a bit. He can hang in there physically at his age. Really nice performance.
     
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  24. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this age you pay attention to the ideas as much as the execution, and I really like Cavan's ideas.
     
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  25. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    Pretty much what I expected from Cavan. Clearly the best player on the field. If you can't see his passing vision and ability from that game, I don't know what to tell you.

    Needs to get a bit more precise, though -- yes, some of these will convert on their own, and some of them will look better with better teammates, but if he can get his accuracy just a little more accurate, the goal production will skyrocket. I think on the skills end, it's small things.

    We didn't see a ton of his acceleration, but he has it -- there was a moment late where he went for a ball at the endline like a rocket. He's like Christian in that he has a very good burst to the ball or when he picks up a loose one.

    Also loved his two shots -- almost two bangers, but if he had placed that first one in the corner...

    Selfishly, I'd like him to stay in MLS at least until next summer, just to see what he can do. I think if they had anyone at striker other than Bruno Damiani, Philly would have a heck of an offense.
     

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