Could 3-6-1 lose its 4 letter word status?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by AngelaMerkin, May 3, 2006.

  1. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    Now I'm not saying we should line up in this formation, however, the only way I would advocate this is if the irreplaceable Stevie C. goes down. With the way Stevie is built though, I think there's only a slight chance of this happening, since we won't be playing against dirty hackers in the tournament.. hackers, yes, dirty, not as much.

    My reasoning is we don't have a true right back to back him up. Therefore a squad of...

    --------McBride

    Beasley-------Donovan

    -----JOB--Reyna------

    -Lewis--------Mastro---

    --Gibbs--Gooch--Pope---


    starts to make sense. You can maybe swap out Pope and put Boca on the left with Gibbs on the right depending on form. At most points in time I could see this as more of a 5-4-1 to be honest but it would alleviate some of the pressure on the right side that honestly, I don't feel comfortable having Albright handle. This I think has run through Arena's head and is the reason why he elected to take so many centerbacks. i really feel when partnered with better players, Conrad can be serviceable in the back if worst came to worst
    Any opinions?
     
  2. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't doubt that you'll hear plenty of them in the next 24 hours.
     
  3. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
  4. house

    house Member

    Dec 27, 1998
    Inver Grove Heights, Minn.
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Allbright would be the replacement. Reyna can play there. So can Pablo....
     
  5. A 3-6-1 formation?! Are you out of you're f**king mind?! Stop posting SS.
     
  6. WarriorSoccer

    WarriorSoccer Member

    Nov 3, 2005
    Number 1 sign that holy water burns you:

     
  7. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    If you read what I posted it would morph fairly easily into a 5-4-1 and it's a fairly free flowing midfield with JOB and Reyna more than adequate to support on defense when lewis and Mastro push forward. With DMB and Donovan up front it could at times resemble a 3-4-3.

    As i said, i hope this never gets put into play, but I would rather see this before I see albright go a full 90 at right back for us.
     
  8. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lets go back to the old days, 2-3-5 baby. BooYah!
     
  9. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    keller has a castle... he could make a 2-3-5 work... too bad we don't even have five forwards in our entire system
     
  10. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    You can play 3-6-1 but you need wings for width...

    ----Pope---Gooch-----Gibbs -----

    ---Mastro--------------Convey--

    ------------Reyna-------------

    Dempsey----Donovan-----Beasley

    -------------McBride-----------

    It's doable as long as the defensive assignments are followed. It's a very fluid formation that requires a lot of experience to pull off.

    There's nothing wrong with it, inherently speaking. It was wrong for the '98 squad however due to the players on the pitch. It could conceivably work for the US in Germany.
     
  11. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But are there lessons to be learned from the way Japan played a 3-6-1 against us this year?
     
  12. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    The Brazil Club Champions managed by Luxemburgo use
    a 3-6-1.

    Just pointing out that it's been used with a high degree
    of success recently.
     
  13. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    The game Japan played against us was their first of the year.

    Try to remember how we did against the Canadian A-leaguers.
     
  14. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    I'm comfortable with Albright as the backup.
     
  15. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    The 3-6-1 is so awesome that not only did it lead to us getting humiliated in France, but it also led to a Japanese A- team get demolished (yeah it was only 3-2, their 2 goals were in garbage time) by our C team.

    No thanks.
     
  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
  17. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Honestly, I think it COULD work, but it takes a lot of time to adapt to, and frankly we don't have that kind of time between now and June 12
     
  18. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC


    Yeah -- don't play it.
     
  19. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dempsey can't provide width. We have no RM that could pull this off. End of story.
     
  20. swedust

    swedust Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    We'd go 3-4-3 before 3-6-1.


    Pope --- Gooch --- Boca (or whoever was left because defenders would have to be out for us to line up with only 3 backs)

    Dempsey -- Reyna -- Maestro -- Lewis/Convey

    Donovan --- McB/Johnson -- Beasley
     
  21. NBlue

    NBlue Member

    Jun 17, 2002
    Orlando, Florida
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
     
  22. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm sure the right team in a 3-6-1 would be fine. The issue in 98 wasn't the formation, it was the manner in which the formation came about, too late in the game, and not really making sense to or for the side.
    As for it's four letter word status, three, six, one, never had it.:p
     
  23. Soccernethost

    Soccernethost New Member

    Apr 16, 1999
    Steve Sampson is a bad coach.

    Mike Burns ********ed up by leaving the post.

    A 3-6-1 is never playable.


    All wrong.
     
  24. elephantstone

    elephantstone Member

    Feb 12, 2001
    Harrisburg, PA
    This is basically the same lineup as the original poster's, except for you're calling Donovan and Beasley forwards, not midfielders. It's just semantics.
     
  25. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Japan went 3-4-2-1 and IIRC, Zico's four defensive midfielders were playing in a Flat-4 formation.

    Once again, this can work if you have very good defensive/2-way mids but the Japanese were getting beat one-on-one constantly and had a horrible time getting out of their own half ... and they had no luck clearing the ball long because they lacked the size of the Americans and they had no numbers going forward.

    In any case, many formations are workable. Wenger played 4-1-4-1 vs. Villareal with Henry on the left wing far off-center and Fabregas, Hleb, Pires and Ljundberg running into thusly vacated forward slot. Arsene plays this formation because his roster is midfielder heavy and most of his mids are superb with the ball at their feet. And, he used the same formation at home and away because it was flexible enough to allow a two-way game at home and a slow low-pressure defensive game away.

    Pellegrini still responded with Villareal's standard "Riquelme + his support team" squad and almost snatched a tie anyway.
     

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