Cosmos NEW Stadium Thread

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  1. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Next week maybe according to Penske.
     
  2. Sam U El

    Sam U El Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 31, 2013
    Seoul Korea
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Ceaser mentioned State of LI address at the staart of the new year... With the holiday period upon us I think that is likely the reality.
     
  3. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Sam U El

    Sam U El Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 31, 2013
    Seoul Korea
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It has possibilities... But no Seamus... I guess we will have to wait and see.
     
  5. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The state Senator is the interesting one as he's the one pushing for the stadium.
     
  6. Sam U El

    Sam U El Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 31, 2013
    Seoul Korea
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.... But if it ends up being a stadium announcement it's definitely short notice and opportunistic.
     
  7. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More likely this is simply the romance leading up to the big deal
     
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  8. Sam U El

    Sam U El Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 31, 2013
    Seoul Korea
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. MakingGoals

    MakingGoals Member

    Sep 12, 2013
    Actually it was more to say that the town and county support the club and the development of the stadium. The area has a championship team that can draw the media that was there, and is seriously interested in making the sizable investment into the community which will benefit everyone in the community.
     
  11. davidrpaige

    davidrpaige Member

    May 17, 2008
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I found this quote from Senator Martins interesting:

    "...talk to them about the ability of opening up a train station at Belmont which will allow them access so they won’t have to take three buses to get to work or school or a doctor’s appointment."

    While I haven't been combing the sands for info on this, this is the first direct mention of the LIRR opening a full time station at the currently "only open for events" station.
     
  12. AmeriSnob

    AmeriSnob Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Queens
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Martins did a previous writeup on his website mentioning this as well.
     
  13. ChinaBlue

    ChinaBlue Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    So, any timetable?
     
  14. Cesar T

    Cesar T Member

    Oct 28, 2013
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey everyone…with the holidays here and the boys in green not playing I have been a bit incognito from the boards! I will say that the trophy presentation was a great moment for the team. I wish I could say that it was well attended but it wasn't. Tthen again I don't; know if it was meant to be well attended. It wasn't advertised at all. I was invited to go by the supporters groups but found out so close to the date that I couldn't get off of work. I personally would have loved to go but one of the things that I took away from this presentation was that if it was ever unclear on whether this was a predominant Long Island team, I think its pretty clear now. This team looks to be focusing their attention on Long Island and Queens fans. Thats fine with me as I grew up in Queens and live in Long Island. Just this weekend they had players at an indoor flea market in queens signing autographs and taking pictures. Looks like they have started to make themselves visible in the community now in the off season. I've said it before and I will say it again…I love this team. Its the off season but the team still stays visible…I expect them to be all over Queens and Long island throughout the winter until its time to train for the spring season.

    As far as the stadium, no news yet. I still think this will come out in January. If January comes and goes and there is no announcement then I would be worried. If you haven't done so already and have a twitter account - follow Senator Jack Martins. His team provides updates every now and then on Long Island news including the stadium. This is no longer a Cosmos news headline but a huge Long Island headline. The jobs, tax revenue, shopping mall, recreational fields and overall positive impact in the neighborhood that it would be built in is a huge positive for Nassau County. Of course it goes without saying that Nassa County would have a professional team seeing as how they are losing the New York Islanders to Brooklyn. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I cannot see this deal not being approved. But then again…I know nothing about politics and how these things work!

    Hope everyone is well!
     
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  15. cosmojo

    cosmojo New Member

    Nov 25, 2013
    Hi, I had planned on going to ceremony. Called team to find out the time of presentation. I had spoken to team after seeing the post announcing ceremony here and was told it was a closed meeting, not really open to public. That's why I did'nt go support. perhaps others in the same situation.
     
  16. cosmojo

    cosmojo New Member

    Nov 25, 2013
    By the way after seeing room that ceremony was held in they could not accommodate many more. Cosmos are the best team I have been associated with in regard to reaching out and respecting fans. By far #1. I just wish this stadium dealwould be settled. Can't wait for opener. Does anyone know when schedule come out?
     
  17. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYC FC closing in on Bronx stadium... I hope we beat them to the punch on ours:

    http://nypost.com/2013/12/10/bronx-scores-400m-soccer-stadium/

    You are telling me this Emirate Sheik can't just turn his couch cushions over to pay for this stadium? Really?
     
  19. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is what Cosmos and NYCFC proposing vastly different? Are the Cosmos not using any public funding mechanism at all? If not, I really don't understand why anyone would oppose it.
     
  20. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The understanding is that the Cosmos are privately financing the stadium. I guess we'll find out more in January.
     
  21. Gaboo

    Gaboo Member

    Jan 14, 2008
    Singapore
    Club:
    Fortuna Düsseldorf 1895
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What would it mean if the Cosmos got their stadium in Long Island, marketing to LI and Queens and NYCFC would get their stadium in the Bronx? Who would NYCFC target marketing wise in that case? Theoretically speaking, is there enough room for both teams to do well in their respective parts of the city? I assume, geographically the Red Bulls would not interfere with anyone's targeted audience, right? I am just wondering if the 3 teams could coexist in New York drawing support from their respective parts of the city and create a "London-like" rivalry (even though, the Cosmos will not get to play regular games against the other 2 teams except USOC maybe and the Red Bulls are not actually in New York).
     
  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A Bronx stadium is great news for the New York Cosmos, if they have any interest in ever joining MLS. If the New York City FC stadium was in Flushing Meadows Queens, that would pretty much kill their chances of ever joining MLS with a stadium on the Long Island border. Given the proposed locations of the NYCFC and Cosmos stadiums, three teams could easily coexist in the market given how massive it is (hell a fourth team in Manhattan or Brooklyn one day far down the line might be feasible as well)...
     
  23. Sam U El

    Sam U El Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 31, 2013
    Seoul Korea
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think at this point LI gets the stadium just out of spite and the kicker? The Mets become partners. ;)
     
  24. Cesar T

    Cesar T Member

    Oct 28, 2013
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can NYCFC and Cosmos co-exist? Sure they can. I mean, do the Yankees and Mets co-exist? And just like the Yankees and Mets exist they do so with different mentalities and fan bases. I can tell you right off the bat that these two teams will cater to different markets. When I say different I don't only mean geographically (Cosmos - Long Island & Queens / NYCFC - Brooklyn, Manhattan, Bronx) they will cater I am sure to the different demographics that make up NYC. I can tell you for sure - that the younger hipper crowd that knows nothing about Soccer in the US will get sucked up into NYCFC. The world cup will come and go in 2014 and they will be aware of Soccer and hopefully want to watch soccer in their backyard. With that awareness, in comes NYCFC and they get lured to be fans of them. Its that type of mentality that is oblivious to what the Cosmos have done in the past. The Cosmos have not ramped up marketing the way NYCFC has because to be honest, there is not that much a need to do so. I mean the Cosmos of course have their history to fall back on and they just finished winning the NASL Championship again. The knowledgeable soccer fan that knows that this is not a passing fad and likely appreciates the Cosmos and will easily side with them. Lets face it - 8000 fans showed up already to Hofstra this year to support the Cosmos - the knowledgeable and loyal fan base is already there.

    But you cannot stop there.

    2014 is a huge year for the Cosmos from the perspective of growing their fan base. And lets face it - if you don't put fans in a 12,000 seat stadium, why exactly are you looking to build a 25,000 seat stadium? The battle for the unsure soccer fan is definitely on in 2014!

    Going back to NYCFC - sure they can nail down a new stadium and they can announce all sorts of things. But the fact remains that there will likely be no player announcements with respect to the team until late 2014. Not only that, but there will be ABSOLUTELY NO SOCCER being played by a NYCFC squad at all in 2014 no matter which way you look at it.

    The Cosmos will be playing both their spring and fall seasons and I think if you are a Cosmos fans, winning the NASL trophy is a must knowing that a new team is coming in 2015 looking to make an impression on New Yorkers. The Cosmos team marketing efforts can definitely use a bit of a boost and a player signing or two would definitely help. Regardless of what happens - I think these two teams can co-exist. Will one have a larger fan base than the other? Who knows and frankly - who cares. Going back to my original comparison. Are there more Yankees fans than Mets fans in NY? Probably - but who cares. For now, both the Mets and Yankees operate independently and have done so for years. If the Cosmos operate their club the way they have planned and have success - then they could care less what NYCFC does over in the Bronx.

    One thing I know for sure however -this guy will stay a Cosmos fan forever, and if I ever step foot in the NYCFC stadium it will be because the Cosmos are in the house to settle the NY debate on who the best soccer team is in NY!
     
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  25. Mr.Smartypants

    Mr.Smartypants Red Card

    Jul 1, 2010
    Club:
    University College Dublin
    Fully privately financed, team will pay all state and local taxes for land use, no floated bonds, integrated commercial development into the stadium site plans (hotel, commerce, etc.), added parkland, and the current site is already zoned for sports and entertainment so no re-zoning of public or private land needed.

    In other words, its about as good as it can ever get for a stadium proposal in the USA. There is literately no cost or downside to the residents (except for those that simply want to keep status quo or otherwise don't like sports because alternative is nothing but empty lots and no development).

    The only potential expense would be with the MTA and what they do with the Belmont spur stop and station, not sure if Cosmos would be offering anything on that end, but i know Nassau execs are pushing that so it could be viewed as a separate infrastructure improvement.
     

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