This would be so cool, especially in NYC. Imagine something where you could see all of Lower Manhattan in the background, kind of like in the opening sequences of On The Town or Working Girl (work with me here ...). I'd love to see a ground which could be expanded for a move to MLS one day, though. That seating looks like less than 7,000...
IIRC there is a barge in the Hudson (Pier something rather) that was pitched at one point in time -floated around if you will- as a potential soccer stadium for the Cosmos and even NYCFC. The whole thing fell through when they realized it would make more money as a car parking specific lot. The way she goes...
Pier 40. It would have had an incredible view. The downside would have been poor transit access, and it would have cost hundred's of millions of dollars just to do the engineering work to make the pier suitable to hold such a large structure.
I think the Jets had their heart set on that area west of the Port Authority Bus Terminal where they were going to put the Olympic Stadium (which, naturally, didn't happen).
per Wiki: In January 2005, the New York City Council approved the rezoning of about 60 blocks from 28th to 43rd Streets, including the eastern portion of the West Side Yard.[2] This did not include the western portion. In June 2005, the proposed West Side Stadium, to be built over the western portion for the New York City bid for the 2012 Summer Olympics, was defeated.[3] Soon after, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) thought of ways to redevelop the 26 acres (11 ha) yards. In conjunction with the government of New York City, the MTA issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) for 12,000,000 square feet (1,100,000 m2) of mixed-use space. The space was to be built on platforms over the rail yards, which would still be in use.[3]
Have to disagree with you there - it would have had poor access by car, as the West Side Highway is easily choked off by traffic. But it's only a few minutes' walk from eight subway lines (and two PATH lines). Short of a Madison Square Garden or Barclays Center situation, it's hard to see how the transit access could have been a whole lot better. Real shame - it would have been amazing.
I would think the upcoming playoff game would an ideal time to announce where they are playing next year as well as an update on the new stadium location [if there is one]. No news isn't always good news.
They should really announce next years stadium this weekend. Would at least give something positive to look forward to stadium wise after the negative and embarrassing use of Belson for the final and take some of the sting away from that.
What if it's more complicated than that? Why do fans always want something to make THEM feel better, regardless of whether or not the team has it figured out? What if they don't have a stadium deal by November 13? Would a championship suffice to make evwy body feew bettuh?
What if they don't have a stadium deal in March when the season starts? I don't think even the mighty Cosmos can survive a season with nearly all games away, maybe a couple played in Belson or, even worse, MCU Park? There's been no (official) peep from the front office about next season's location, not even to us long time season ticket holders. Keep treating us like shit and you will get the same treatment back.
I agree, they should have had something lined up already. People are upset and loosing interest, that is one major reason the championship game at Belson wasn't sold out. Why keep supporting when the team doesn't care enough to keep its season ticket holders in the loop.
How is MCU park worse? It will be a huge improvement over anything else available, including the dump in the middle of nowhere called Hofstra.
The New York Cosmos should move into Wien Stadium by Spring 2017. Here's my proposal: http://bit.ly/2g3PWTJ The New York Cosmos should move into Wien Stadium by Spring 2017.Here's my proposal:https://t.co/TF9cKTOCuU@NYCosmos #MLS #NASL #USL pic.twitter.com/vwfBRnkg0C— Isaac Payano (@ReimagineNYC) November 23, 2016
Yeah, but why ? Why would it be good for Columbia ? That's the sell you (and the Cosmos) really have to make. Sure the B team played 1 game on the practice field. That doesn't really mean there's a connection there. RB2 was supposed to have multiple games at the smaller soccer stadium (seats 3,500) in 2015. After 1 game (or 2?), the neighborhood complained that there was TOO MUCH TRAFFIC and no further games were scheduled. RB2, who averages fewer than 600 fans per game in RB Arena. I get that Cosmos > RB2, but just because you're comparing them to the other pro teams of NY's past (Yankees, etc) doesn't mean they're big enough where people will roll out the red carpet for them.
They will have to. You gotta have a place to play. It just takes longer and is harder than people think.
Hi Zamphyr. Thanks for the questions. 1) As the proposal explains in detail, Wien Stadium is an existing venue in the right location of the city, in Manhattan, near mass transit, highways, and a multitude of amenities, which can favorably reboot the club and help them draw a larger attendance. This area in particular has been a hotbed for soccer since the late 19th century. The closer to the center of the city, the greater the attendance has historically been as a whole for the Cosmos. 2) Good question. For various reasons: a) Upgrades to Wien Stadium: The Cosmos presence at Wien can bring important upgrades and continuous maintenance to the venue. Wien can be refurbished to modern standards, without the need to build a new stadium. This enhancement would be done with private funds. - Upgrades can include an additional modular field for soccer and other sports, a new facade, chairs, locker rooms, bathrooms, concessions, banners and flags for the club and the Lions, improvements to the press box, and more. - These upgrades greatly benefit the football team and it can lead to substantially expanding their attendance. b) Tenants: The Cosmos are a multi-winning championship team. In this location, they have the potential to attract a big crowd. - This equals revenue for the university which can specifically go towards the various sports programs. - The presence of the club can also lead to promoting the stadium and the university via televised games and the media. c) Relationship: There is the potential for exponential synergy between the club and the university. - The club can work with the school's soccer program to help develop players. This can lead towards further investments in the program. - There can be connections for students and sports/business programs of the school with the club, including sales, marketing, management, and international business. - There can be a connection between the school's media production department and One World Sports (OWS). - OWS can possibly show Columbia Lions football games and highlights. This can lead to expanding coverage and exposure of the football program as well as other teams. - The club can work with Columbia Presbyterian as one of their official medical partners. This further opens the doors for a connection with the sports medicine program. - There can be ticket discounts for Cosmos games and other new stadium events for Columbia students, alumni, and faculty in addition to personnel from Columbia Presbyterian. - Combo ticket sales of Cosmos games and the Columbia Lions football team can also be marketed. d) Upgrades to other facilities: - Rocco B Commisso Soccer Stadium can be expanded. A larger venue can host an NWSL team by the Cosmos. The Cosmos women's team can connect with the Columbia Lions female soccer team on different levels. - A new field hockey / lacrosse field can replace the existing one which benefits those teams. e) Potential new parking garage: - A new garage under RBC Soccer Stadium or across the street can benefit the entire sports complex, the Allen hospital, and the community. f) Potential bus to the hospital and stadium: - The SBS Bx 12 articulated bus can have a permanent stop at these two important locations for the university. This expands the stadium's ability to host different events, while it gives the area a direct mass transit connection to the hospital and the sports facility. g) Nearby plaza / park - The new plaza brings beautification to the corner of 218th St and Broadway. The green space complements the visual of the area. It opens the possibility for an outdoor market which can serve the community, the students, and the fans attending the stadium. h) Wider sidewalks and crosswalks - This is a major improvement that creates safety that can help the community and visitors to Wien, and it helps with the flow of pedestrians. i) Road improvement - A needed modification on Broadway and 10th Ave between 216th St and 218th st vastly improves the flow of vehicular traffic, and eliminates a three street bottleneck. j) Potential for CitiBike - The CitiBike program can finally make its way to the tip of Manhattan. Students at 116th St can travel by bike to the Baker Athletic Complex and back. Visitors of the area, the stadium, and the park can also use this mode to arrive there. k) Potential for a hotel nearby - Students can obtain school internships and positions at this potential establishment. Moreover, national and international visiting teams from the various sports can stay there. This brings further business to the community. l) Potential for a larger boat dock - An expanded dock can allow fans all along the Hudson and Harlem Rivers from both New York and New Jersey, to visit the stadium and the athletic complex during events. This dock is also a financial generator for the university. n) Potential to host various sports events and concerts - With all the upgrades available, particularly at Wien, the stadium can host an array of events. This equals more revenue for the university which can further go towards the multiple sports programs. m) New businesses for the area - The presence of the Cosmos and the various events that can potentially be hosted at Wien can lead to generating revenue for the local businesses (bars, restaurants, lounges, markets, retail, etc). This further builds the relationship between the university and the community.
http://www.empireofsoccer.com/insult-to-injury-belmont-bid-dies-as-cosmos-flail-56206/ Nobody gets the site in Elmont for redevelopment, state goes back to the drawing board. Not that the Cosmos deserved the land for development, but it is frustrating that it took this long to come to that conclusion.
Well after the first couple of years of not hearing back they had to presume they weren't getting it...
I think A] clinging to Elmont and B] not leaving Hofstra were the key factors in the Cosmos financial losses. Yes other management decisions factor in but stadium control for dates, rentals, stadium concessions, stadium advertising and stadium experience especially compared to Hofstra on all those issues kept people and revenue away.
Where do the Cosmos go now in regards to a stadium? Without their own stadium they will always be up against it.
Its hard to see them surviving without their own stadium, or at least the prospect of one. MCU is just a slightly better Hofstra situation.