Both of which are complete horseshit of excuses for anyone who actually experiences universal healthcare.
Slovenia has universal health care. My family has experienced both long lines and bureaucracy. Not surprising actually. As 4x4s said, it would be interesting to see what Americans would do when your monthly / weekly paycheck would be cut in two.
I think every one understands that it isn't free. What I like about the Canadian system is that most of it is free after the monthly kick in the teeth that you have to pay in additional taxes. If I actually visit a Doctor in the U.S., then my costs continue to rack-up beyond the $912/month that my private health insurance costs. So I'm getting kicked in the teeth more than 12 times a year. But most importantly, the overall annual cost is more than it would ever be under a Gov't-controlled system. And also that cost is actually even higher if you don't have a good job or don't have any job (because your employer won't contribute as much), which seems totally ass-backwards.
Canada has universal health care. We have experienced neither. If the system is crap, it doesn't matter whether you have universal or pay as you go, it will be horrific either way.
The American healthcare system is awful. The most expensive in the world per capita and putrid in every outcome across the board. A lower life expectancy than Slovenia, millions uninsured, medical debt through the roof.
You are not experiencing waiting lines? Strange. I had discussion with my mother recently how she needs check-up with neurologist and she is going private due to waiting line. Plus, she gets to be examined by highly respected doctor.
Any country that isn’t interested in really looking after the health of all of its citizens is not a real country. How to pay for it is a fair question, but allowing millions of people to go without care or insurance is something I just don’t understand. Having “for profit” healthcare systems, prison systems etc is also something I don’t understand. These are basic functions of the state. Basic healthcare is just as important as education, which is “free” in most countries. For the people asking who pays for it, I would ask why you can have a “free” soldier but not a “free” doctor. I think the doctor would be higher on my list of priorities than the soldier.
Smh why you out this man? There is only one sensible one; Biden. What this country needs is a mix of ideas and a President who is centralized. Leaning left slightly on social issues, leaning right slightly on fiscal policy. Still central. Biden is closest to this. The issue is he needs to stay true to himself and not allow himself to be hijacked by crazy liberals to same way the Republicans allowed crazy fringe racists to hijack them. I detest both extremes sides; both are selfish, intolerant with tunnel vision and god complexes.
Bingo. Throwing more money at it only means it will end up worse. We need severe reform in how these medical companies, hospitals, etc are determining their cost.
Term free is misnomer. Secondly, nobody argues against providing proper health care to the people. The question is how. Never ending misnomers and platitudes won`t solve the issue. Healthcare is important. So is education. So is food. You ain`t kicking much longer if you are starving for a month. Should we make it "free"?
Again Either go full capitalism or full socialist based system What we have in the u.s is neither. We pay a lot of taxes and we still have to pay a shit ton for health care or education. If you are gonna take 35% of my income every check and i still have healthcare costs and education costs for my wife and 3 kids I'd rather you'd take 50% and they were good to go
I don't think you understand Capitalism.... Also, if we did move to full socialism you're definitely not earning anything near the 200k you are currently brining in. Wages would shrink due to the economy shrinking.
Bernie solution would be more costly for you. From the start. Let alone when you remove the cost of your children at some point of life, when they hit adulthood.
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I understand it but that's not what we have. We have huge government budgets for military costs and other expenses. In most places you are paying federal income taxes, state income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, etc. You dish out a lot and at the end of the day, you still have to cover most costs out of pocket. 2 groups of people play the system. Those who don't work and live off welfare programs. Those who have businesses and can cheat the system, especially large corporations. The rest are screwed carrying the load and still get very little assistance when shit hits the fan because they "made too much". The idea that it couldn't work here is based on culture more than facts. People fear those systems and it probably wouldn't work based on that...fear.
This is false. It would be higher taxes, but plenty medicare for all studies show it would end up costing people less overall than what the average American pays now.
How much does the US spend on defense? Why that’s a given and only healthcare gets the ”from where” question?
To add to that Universal healthcare also gives the government power to negotiate with medical companies and insurance companies. Right now in America people are completely at the mercy of these companies as the government simply doesn't have the power to do much about them. Like i understand people being concerned about big changes and wanting to go slow but i just don't see going slow working. These corporations have far too much money and power. At this stage they can counter anything that gets thrown at them without breaking a sweat. Only way i see genuine change happening is by radical changes to the system in the form of medicare for all. That would shift the power back to the government which would then be able to set proper pricing and regulations that would be in the best interest of the people and not these bloodsucking companies.
In an emergency room in Canada the waiting lines are horrendous. Unless you are dieing prepare to wait upwards of 7-8 hours in peak days to see a doctor. I broke my arm pretty badly in 3 places a few years ago and had to wait 7 hours just to get seen by a doctor. Also seeing specialists can take very long, I needed to see a ear nose and throat specialist and had to get put on a 4 month waiting list just to see him. There is positives and negatives but it is good in Canada.