NSR: Coronavirus: A global Pandemic.

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    #10351 The Jitty Slitter, Apr 13, 2020
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    Another highlight from President Nappies, this time claiming absolute powers over the states


     
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  2. almango

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    I think its more likely he will distribute one for free to a company owned and run by some of his cronies and they will charge Americans for it (Republican areas first of course).
     
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  3. almango

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  4. mbar

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    So serious question, since the 2016 election has Trump/GOP won any really big election results? Anything that shows movement towards him and the party? To my memory it seems like every election has moved dramatically in the democrats direction every time there is an actual chance for the american people to express an opinion on trump at the ballot box. That doesn't mean democrats always win, just that the center of gravity has shifted decidedly to the left.

    Given how close the 2016 election was, that's an argument against everyone that says that Trump will easily win again.

    Am I conveniently forgetting much evidence to the contrary?
     
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  5. song219

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    You'd control the sipping routes for fentanyl. You could make fly-over country your colonies.
     
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  6. mbar

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    On the subject of my avatar, it is worth noting that Sean Penn's charity (CORE, which was originally focused on Haitian earthquake relief) has stepped up and set up drive through COVID 19 testing sites in Los Angeles. You might even argue that Spicoli has done more to fight this virus than POTUS has.

    https://newslagoon.com/sean-penn-wants-to-save-lives-with-free-trials-of-coronavirus/14996/
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    There is a truck load of stuff that was written about this before and after the midterms

    Tldr; Trump appears to have no coat tails down ballot

    The only unknown question is whether he can turn out the base triple plus for himself personally. But the main issue seems to be that he is very successful in turning out the dem base
     
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  9. InTheSun

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    Peru had a jump of 30% new cases today - possibly some weekend-delayed reports or testing uptick but alarming nevertheless. Deceased up to 12% as well.
     
  10. dapip

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  11. Boandlkramer

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    Chris Cuomo looks feverish and sweaty....
     
  12. onefineesq

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    I thought the same thing.
     
  13. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    President Dumbfvck's disdain of the "deep state" may have caused him to not take coronavirus seriously

    'Unfolding as it did in the wake of his impeachment by the House and in the midst of his Senate trial, Mr. Trump's response was colored by his suspicion of and disdain for what he viewed as the 'Deep State' — the very people in his government whose expertise and long experience might have guided him more quickly toward steps that would slow the virus, and likely save lives."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/donald-trump-deep-state-new-york-times/index.html
     
  14. Chicago76

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    Yeah, but you could also say that Australia, Canada and South Korea have fared well (all men). And the country that will probably end up with the highest death rate among highly developed democracies is Belgium. Currently led by a woman. Albeit in a dysfunctional minority government.

    I haven’t been around as much with homeschooling, work and a lot of solo parenting, but are you guys looking at Belgium to all? Per capita, they’ve moved up to third highest in the death rally behind #1 Spain and #2 Italy (excluding the San Marinos of the world). They’re also much earlier in the process than either and Belgium had a ridiculously aggressive growth rate. What is going on there?
     
  15. almango

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  16. The Jitty Slitter

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    Too much mayo on their fries
     
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  17. Chicago76

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    Yeah. I never got that. But seriously, I noticed the trajectory about 10 days ago and thought nothing of it. But it just gets worse. They’re outpacing Spain and Italy at the same stage. I get that some of it is a small country issue, so if you took Madrid or Lombardy separately, they’d look far worse. I find it unusual that the media isn’t talking about this though.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...=OWID_WRL+DEU+ITA+ESP+FRA+GBR+BEL+NLD+PRT+CHE
     
  18. American Brummie

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    I think when all of this is over you will find that income inequality has decreased from both sides of the spectrum. Rich white people are likely to get this disease in large numbers, and elderly rich white people will die at the same rate as elderly poor PoC.

    To paraphrase another erstwhile BigSoccer poster:

     
  19. blissett

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    It was a nice little story and I really appreciated it.

    Only difference with the real thing is that the guy who defied the wind died alone, while the particular fool we're talking about not only died himself but also jeopardized the lives of the people who trusted him and "defied the virus with him" on his request.
     
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  20. blissett

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    I am aware that, not being an American, I can't possibly keep up with every cultural reference you guys make on this thread, but can I have a short brief about the story behind that particular avatar? As an European guy, I have to admit I didn't recognize him.
     
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    #10372 The Jitty Slitter, Apr 14, 2020
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    So NZ and Australia are on the verge of delivering on the Go Hard / Go Early strategy

    In simple terms, its better & cheaper to lockdown while infection rate is still tiny. 1-2 weeks delay means extra weeks in lockdown, and an exponentially bigger problem to clean up.

    Note: Of course the issue here is partly political. It is easier to impose a massive lockdown early, when you can point to Italy etc, than it was for say Germany to get the public to lock down hypothetically on 2 March before the disaster in Italy was so obvious. Had Germany locked down on 2 March, the damage would be so much less right now. But can you take the public with you?
    1. NZ & Aust appear to have excellent chances to get to zero
    2. Stopping virus importation is critical ---> border entry = 2 weeks isolation
    3. Oz kept big box retail open. This is apparently low risk
    4. Places with large socialisation are high risk... bars, events, rest homes, workplaces etc
    5. Early restrictions like events < 100 people - still drove massive infection chains
    6. Key questions about track/trace - not yet resolved by the anoraks
    7. Testing rates now less than 1% positives ---> who to test?
    8. Likely OZ/NZ may open border between 2 countries and become a zone
    So I think we pretty much have the AB test on a few critical things now. Waiting to lock down like Chairman Boris or Mango Nappies is the dumbest timeline

    [​IMG]

    Of course the problem is, countries that have huge infection, now lack good options
     
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  22. spejic

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    You can add San Francisco to that list. Mayor Breed shut down sporting events in February and ordered the shelter-in-place in mid March, with the rest of the Bay Area quickly following. San Francisco only has 13 recorded deaths, all the neighboring counties are in double digits or less. She was on the ball very early, starting a emergency-operations center in January which was put in the Moscone Center convention hall, a sprawling building that allows many people to work while also socially distancing.

    But from now NZ and Australia have an advantage the San Francisco Bay Area can't have - they can control their borders.
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    Agreed - Germany has also struggled with this. eg theoretically you can't leave Hamburg federal territory to enter the neighbouring states but in reality it is hard to stop. NZ has been freaking out about this with police roadblocks to try to stop people going to holiday locations over easter. In simple terms they can import the virus to places that do not have it yet.

    China of course has advantages here - and it appears to be key to stopping fresh outbreaks
     
  24. Paul Berry

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    I wasn't talking about homicides. You have more chance of surviving a knife attack than a gunshot. There were 44,036 stabbings between July 2018 and June 2019.

    There were 149 homicides in London in 2019 compared to 318 in New York but most of the murders in New York involved firearms.

    There were 1,760 reported rapes in New York in 2019 compared to 7,613 in London.
     

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