NSR: Coronavirus: A global Pandemic.

Perhaps not so much for the rights of product developers making $150k, but sure, we'll go with that.

 

I think it will have to be phased in state by state.

 

Understandable......not too many do!

 

I don't think there is an "on average" situation. On Friday my local Home Depot is limiting the number of shoppers to 100 while the supermarket right next door was crowded.

 

Maybe I'm not being clear: if you take an establishment that was previously open 14 hours and instead shrink its opening hours to 10, that encourages people who may want or need to go there to go in closer proximity to other people who want or need the same, necessarily. Obviously that presupposes similar demand. Another side effect of contracting hours, though, is a perception of scarcity, which can paradoxically (usually temporarily) increase demand.

"Rationing" customers also has side effects, putting the people there in more unusual contact with others, for example (i.e. queuing just to get in the door, then queuing to get out).

 

Yeah, that's what i said before.

But it's not just tourism. It's pretty much ALL movement of people.

Obviously it depends what assumptions you make but if around 20-30% of people are asymptomatic and, (even if only theoretically), able to transmit the virus if it's in it's early stages, you can't have them flooding in and out every day without pretty substantial checks.

Heathrow, on it's own, handles millions of passenger every year from outside the UK, i.e. outside of the UK epidemiological area.

The only way it could work is if the EU became one giant area for epidemiological purposes and then, who decides what happens in it?

I mean, leaving aside brexit for a minute, how exactly would this work even if we were still IN the EU? Someone has to decide policies for the entire area because, y'know... people get a bit tetchy when their gran starts dying.

At least with the US they're one country, (well... sorta!!!). IOW there are structures in place which can theoretically decide what happens but the EU is the past master at fudges to get an 'agreement'. That's fine most of the time but with something like THIS???

I dunno!

I see problems ahead unless there is strong leadership and agreement which, up until now, has been lacking.

 

That's an interesting aspect that hasn't been discussed much in the media.

We visited Asda, (a slightly posher Walmart.. but not by much), recently and instead of having 'customer service' personnel, they now have 'customer service officers'. Guys in black stab vests, outside and inside the shop.

That's... er... a 'change', shall we say, in their customer facing policy.

 

A Trader Joe's near me has actually marked out 6 foot increments on the sidewalk outside, and has tape on the floor for the inside lines, so that alleviates the close queuing issue. I had to wait about 20 minutes to get in the other day, annoying but it would otherwise have been ridiculously crowded inside.

Costco on the other hand hasn't done that, and I had a woman crowding my ass while waiting to get in a couple weeks ago. Fortunately I'd already grabbed a shopping cart so was able to use it to preserve my precious 6 foot radius.

 

I think I understand these words on their own. But together...

Talk about "separated by a common language".

Also, what is it about the change to "officers" that is alarming? I mean, it sounds vaguely sinister, but I'm not really sure. Do they actually, like, have arrest powers?

 

Lowe's and Home Depot do, too. Lowe's last weekend didn't bother with the queuing to get in, so I picked them. I'm not queuing to get inside a store for which I will immediately make a beeline for the damn outdoors section anyway - which is literally outdoors...

If you think tape on the floor is a deterrent...though when I was there, people were overly respectful of it.

 

Walmart has been inconsistent. Last week they were counting people and stopping entry until people exited.

This week, like “before” but half of us were wearing masks....

Fk Colorado....I hate these people

 

Dude, you are posting a lot of informations, would help if you have link/sources.
Anyway, the WHO has a timeline of their activities in China including visits to Wuhan as early as January. It was not hard to find. By the way, the WHO has a large field office in China.
For that matter, the CDC has a large office as well in China whose role was to keep track, study world and and help stop outbreaks of contagious diseases from spreading. It has worked in China for 30 years. This office was decimated last year by the Trump administration.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/08-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19

 

An other good paper from the NYT, this time on the US Theodore Roosevelt / Capt Crozier fiasco.

Inside the TR: Reactor Department was the first to go down. Dr's estimated 50-67 could die. Other senior officers wanted to co-sign Crozier's letter, but he declined saying the burden was his alone to bear. Story w/ @Tmgneff @EricSchmittNYT @helenecooper https://t.co/OVKmW5nvkP

— John Ismay (@johnismay) April 12, 2020

 

Not sure what you deem controversial here. He said they didn't have any restriction in Feb and the delegation had a number of experts including the US.

 

You are welcome. They had two formal visits, 1 in January and 1 in Feb. Honestly though, I am not sure what your point is? Is it that China was not fully transparent early on? That is even an understatement.

 

On this topic, I see China are trying to shut down all research into the virus origins from within China.

Now THAT makes me skeptical.

No way they go to such extreme to defend culture aspects like bat soup.

I do wonder, what else are they trying to hide? Perhaps this truly was a lab accident of sorts?