NSR: Coronavirus: A global Pandemic.

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  1. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I thinks it inevitable for a large portion of the population myself. Around the globe.

    I'm not worried about the death rate, as it's quite low.

    But, my biggest concerns are.
    1. Is this going to trigger a massive, global recession?
    2. The infection rate seems incredibly high
    3. Potential issues around reinfection (that's my biggest concern right now). The first documented reinfection has already happened in Japan. Now, that is concerning.
     
  2. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    So let's put the anti-science nutjob in charge of leading the fight against the coronavirus. Great, just fking great. We're all doomed and I blame all the fking idiots who voted these guys in office.
     
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  3. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    For certain. I can accept getting this once. I'm not elderly, not sickly, don't have any respiratory issues, I am highly likely to be fine. But repeatedly? No I'm not up for that.
     
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  4. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    This is one of several reasons why to vote for a technocrat rather than a populist. I mean, the populist would be OK if he had high-quality staffers who could find top people for the agencies and who would maintain an atmosphere of professionalism. But that generally won't happen with populists, certainly not this one.
     
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  5. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Don't worry people, we're ahead on this...

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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is stupid. He's a fundamentalist, not a Christian Scientist.
     
  7. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    From what I've heard, 40 to 70% infection rate with 1-2% of those dying from it...

    IOW... 3 to 5 billion would get it, with between 30 to 100 million deaths...
     
  8. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That's assuming one get doesnt get it several times in a year.

    I hope Science wins this one.
     
  9. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Meanwhile, our country doesn't care that 10,000+ have died from the flu.
    But let's move all of our focus and assets to the Coronavirus instead.
     
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  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, the government of Iran would not like your postings.

    You definitively need to fact check your own numbers. Wuhan has a population of 11 million, we obviously do not know how many have been infected, but your numbers would mean that there have to be at least 3 million infected people.
     
  11. phedre44

    phedre44 Member

    SKC
    Apr 1, 2008
    Kansas
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right now, in most of the world outside of China, yes, you are more likely to die from the flu. People should get their flu shots, stay home if sick, wash hands frequently and thoroughly with warm water and soap, and petition the government to require ALL employers to provide paid sick leave so that people aren't forced to go into work when sick just so they can afford to pay their bills.

    But Coronavirus deserves significant focus and assets. Right now, it's looking like it is 2-3 times more deadly than influenza. There has been at least one confirmed case of an incubation period of over 3 weeks, and it can be spread before symptoms appear. So somebody with the virus could be walking around for 2-3 weeks without knowing it while spreading the virus. It's going to be nearly impossible to contain.
     
  12. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    How many were infected though?

    The COVID death rate, while low, still much bigger than the more common strains of influenza.
     
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  13. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You ignore the steps taken to quarantine. The city basically shut down for weeks.

    People were confined to their homes. Public transit stopped in full.

    Are Westerners ready for such measures?
     
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  14. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Not to worry, the mortality rate is only running at 2%. About the same as the Spanish Flue that killed 50 million or so.
    But only some 375k Americans
     
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  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some fact checks, first about CDC funding

    https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104

    Here is a fact check on Trump newspress.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-amid-first-case-community-spread/4883728002/


    As more cases are being diagnosed, the mortality rate is getting lower (as the divisible gets bigger).

    https://www.cbsnews.com/live-update...ll-infections-latest-news-updates-2020-02-25/
     
  16. NORML

    NORML Member+

    Aug 9, 2002
    Lake Wobegon, MN
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw this bit of news this morning and found it wild and a sign that the knock on effect the virus will have on the global economy hasn't really been felt yet. Not to mention if things get worse.

    arstechnicalink

    … I guess I could have put this link in the global warming thread as a bit of good news.
     
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  17. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    40-70% of the people would get it, just not simultaneously. So in theory, over a 3 or 4 year period, yes, 3 million people would get it and about 30,000 would die.

    Off course we need to factor in other developments, like maybe having a vaccine in a year, or having sick days off after 2021, or having adequate health insurance. if the free market allows us such luxuries.
     
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  18. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I have faith that if you put Trump's brain in a mustard seed, it would still rattle.
     
  19. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    These are the two things that are gonna make it so bad in the USA.

    In normal places, if you're sick you stay home. That's patently just not true here because there's no paid sick leave. And also for cultural reasons.

    And in normal places, if you're sick you got to the doctor. For tens of millions of people, that's not a possibility because of the Republican Party. So hospitals are going to get overwhelmed in a hurry.
     
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  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It would vary by state. Remember, red states don't want people to have insurance and rural hospitals are closing!!!



    Sh!t, I live in a red state, but at least the county heavily subsidize the public hospital network.
     
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  21. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Might be a good time to invest with big pharma. They won’t be giving away any antivi. They will get richer.
     
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  22. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    And gunz and survivor kits/supplies. But if shit goes haywire, doesn't the whole thing collapse?
     
  23. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Damn, I sold all my guns 25 years ago.
     
  24. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    When the global food supply chain breaks down I plan on making a mint selling venison for Russian caviar prices.
     
  25. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    For some odd reason, it doesn't seem to infect children nearly as easily as adults.
     

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