Copa Libertadores hasta ahora: Lanús(ARG), Universidad Cátolica(CHI), Emelec(ECU), Dep.Quito(ECU), Nacional(PAR), Alianza Lima(PER) y Juan Aurich(PER) ya están clasificados, pero aún no se define en qué cupo estarán. 1a fase (24 de enero al 2 de febrero): G1 Arsenal(ARG) vs Sport Huancayo(PER) G2 Real Potosí(BOL) vs Flamengo(BRA) G3 Peñarol(URU) vs Caracas(VEN) G4 ECU3 vs PAR3 G5 Internacional(BRA) vs COL3 G6 CHI3 vs Tigres(MÉX) Fase de Grupos (9 de febrero al 19 de abril): Grupo 1 Santos(BRA), PER1, BOL2, Internacional(BRA)/COL3 Grupo 2 PAR1, ECU2, ARG3, Real Potosí(BOL)/Flamengo(BRA) Grupo 3 Bolívar(BOL), COL2, CHI2, CHI3/Tigres(MÉX) Grupo 4 Boca Juniors(ARG), Zamora(VEN), Fluminense(BRA), Arsenal(ARG)/Sport Huancayo(PER) Grupo 5 Nacional(URU), PER2, Vasco da Gama(BRA), ECU3/PAR3 Grupo 6 Corinthians(BRA), Táchira(VEN), PAR2, Cruz Azul(MÉX) Grupo 7 Velez Sarsfield(ARG), ECU1, Defensor Sporting(URU), Guadalajara(MÉX) Grupo 8 Universidad de Chile(CHI), Atlético Nacional(COL), ARG4, Peñarol(URU)/Caracas(VEN)
Potosi still play in the everest stadium? Flamengo played against Potosi in 2007 and won 1-0 and draw 1-1, but for sure Flamengo is much more stronger now than was in 2007.
Velez is going to have to upgrade offensively if they want to contend. For one thing, el Gishe Franco at CF is not going to do it.
With the information we have now, Santos will have a challenging first group if the winner of the playoff is Internacional - it retains its core and it definitely wants the Copa Libertadores again. Once Caldas is one of the three potential Colombian candidates who will play off against Internacional. If it's indeed Inter, I would bet on Santos and Inter making it out of this group. Fluminense with a very challenging opening match, at home, against Boca Juniores. Hopefully they'll have earned a round of 16 berth by the time they visit La Bombonera for the return match. Vasco's only defined opponent is Nacional from Uruguay. Should be tough to play them in Montevideu. This Vasco team had a good season this year, so hopefully they'll be ready for the tough play of Libertadores matches. Corinthians plays against Cruz Azul of Mexico and two undefined opponents. Always tough to play in Mexico, but hopefully this team will do a good job as the current Brazilian champion.
They need a new fitness trainer, though: after 60 min in both games against U. de Chile they were done physically, looked gassed.
Both Boca and Fluminense should advance, but I'm hoping Arsenal beats Sport Huancayo. It will be a lot more fun to play on the road in Buenos Aires than in the Peruvian highlands.
Fatigue. It was the final run of my country's league and Vasco had been alternating games with the Copa Sul-Americana. If I'm correct, some starters played and some even went on to play against Flamengo this past Sunday.
You mean it'll be a lot more convenient. Well, I don't know how good either Arsenal or Huancayo are, but Huancayo hosts the second match. This could made a difference. At the same time, Fluminense will probably have an easier time traveling to your capital city to face Arsenal given it'll have done so for the opening match against your club.
Copa Libertadores hasta ahora: Once Caldas(COL), Universidad Cátolica(CHI), Emelec(ECU), Dep.Quito(ECU), Nacional(PAR), Olimpia(PAR), Alianza Lima(PER) y Juan Aurich(PER) ya están clasificados, pero aún no se define en qué cupo estarán. 1a fase (24 de enero al 2 de febrero): G1 Arsenal(ARG) vs Sport Huancayo(PER) G2 Real Potosí(BOL) vs Flamengo(BRA) G3 Peñarol(URU) vs Caracas(VEN) G4 ECU3 vs PAR3 G5 Internacional(BRA) vs COL3 G6 CHI3 vs Tigres(MÉX) Fase de Grupos (9 de febrero al 19 de abril): Grupo 1 Santos(BRA), PER1, BOL2, Internacional(BRA)/COL3 Grupo 2 PAR1, ECU2, Lanús(ARG), Real Potosí(BOL)/Flamengo(BRA) Grupo 3 Bolívar(BOL), COL2, CHI2, CHI3/Tigres(MÉX) Grupo 4 Boca Juniors(ARG), Zamora(VEN), Fluminense(BRA), Arsenal(ARG)/Sport Huancayo(PER) Grupo 5 Nacional(URU), PER2, Vasco da Gama(BRA), ECU3/PAR3 Grupo 6 Corinthians(BRA), Táchira(VEN), PAR2, Cruz Azul(MÉX) Grupo 7 Velez Sarsfield(ARG), ECU1, Defensor Sporting(URU), Guadalajara(MÉX) Grupo 8 Universidad de Chile(CHI), Atlético Nacional(COL), ARG4, Peñarol(URU)/Caracas(VEN)
ECU1 will be Deportivo Quito or Emelec. Dep.Quito won the 1rst leg of the Final. Once Caldas(COL), Universidad Cátolica(CHI), Emelec(ECU), Dep.Quito(ECU), Nacional(PAR), Olimpia(PAR), Alianza Lima(PER) y Juan Aurich(PER) ya están clasificados, pero aún no se define en qué cupo estarán. 1a fase (24 de enero al 2 de febrero): G1 Arsenal(ARG) vs Sport Huancayo(PER) G2 Real Potosí(BOL) vs Flamengo(BRA) G3 Peñarol(URU) vs Caracas(VEN) G4 ECU3 vs PAR3 G5 Internacional(BRA) vs COL3 G6 CHI3 vs Tigres(MÉX) Fase de Grupos (9 de febrero al 19 de abril): Grupo 1 Santos(BRA), PER1, BOL2, Internacional(BRA)/COL3 Grupo 2 PAR1, ECU2, Lanús(ARG), Real Potosí(BOL)/Flamengo(BRA) Grupo 3 Bolívar(BOL), COL2, CHI2, CHI3/Tigres(MÉX) Grupo 4 Boca Juniors(ARG), Zamora(VEN), Fluminense(BRA), Arsenal(ARG)/Sport Huancayo(PER) Grupo 5 Nacional(URU), PER2, Vasco da Gama(BRA), ECU3/PAR3 Grupo 6 Corinthians(BRA), Táchira(VEN), PAR2, Cruz Azul(MÉX) Grupo 7 Velez Sarsfield(ARG), ECU1, Defensor Sporting(URU), Guadalajara(MÉX) Grupo 8 Universidad de Chile(CHI), Atlético Nacional(COL), Godoy Cruz(ARG), Peñarol(URU)/Caracas(VEN)
Universidad Cátolica(CHI), Once Caldas(COL), Emelec(ECU), Dep.Quito(ECU), Nacional(PAR) y Olimpia(PAR) ya están clasificados, pero aún no se define en qué cupo estarán. 1a fase (24 de enero al 2 de febrero): G1 Arsenal(ARG) vs Sport Huancayo(PER) G2 Real Potosí(BOL) vs Flamengo(BRA) G3 Peñarol(URU) vs Caracas(VEN) G4 ECU3 vs PAR3 G5 Internacional(BRA) vs COL3 G6 CHI3 vs Tigres(MÉX) Fase de Grupos (9 de febrero al 19 de abril): Grupo 1 Santos(BRA), Juan Aurich(PER), BOL2, Internacional(BRA)/COL3 Grupo 2 PAR1, ECU2, Lanús(ARG), Real Potosí(BOL)/Flamengo(BRA) Grupo 3 Bolívar(BOL), COL2, CHI2, CHI3/Tigres(MÉX) Grupo 4 Boca Juniors(ARG), Zamora(VEN), Fluminense(BRA), Arsenal(ARG)/Sport Huancayo(PER) Grupo 5 Nacional(URU), Alianza de Lima(PER), Vasco da Gama(BRA), ECU3/PAR3 Grupo 6 Corinthians(BRA), Táchira(VEN), PAR2, Cruz Azul(MÉX) Grupo 7 Velez Sarsfield(ARG), ECU1, Defensor Sporting(URU), Guadalajara(MÉX) Grupo 8 Universidad de Chile(CHI), Atlético Nacional(COL), Godoy Cruz(ARG), Peñarol(URU)/Caracas(VEN)
4, 7 and 8 look tough. I'm looking forward to seing this Boca side, they have been away for a while. It's good to see them back.
Disagree, the mexicans have some good teams and bring value to the competition. Yeah it might be slightly controversial that they compete but so what??? The day they start to let US clubs in the libertadores youll have something to moan about.
Nice to see people are happy to see us back, the ballache for me (living in england) is that kickoffs are going to be about 2 or 3am, theres gonna be a few zombified mornings on the horizon
I agree. The Mexican league is strong, its fans bring passion, and its teams add to the tournament. Plus here in the US we can laugh at them when they inevitably flame out.
Hahaha...struck close to home that. I watched the Copa Sudamericana final the other day...stayed till 3am and arrived a Zombi to work. Totally worth it as we were crowned champions!
Please help ! I've been watching Copa Lib, for a long time now, I also follow some of the South American leagues, but still cant figure out how qualification for CL works in some of these leagues. I am wondering if anyone has more info, in regards to , Colombia, Ecuador, Paraguay and Chile , who are the teams in contention for those remaining spots. Just saw Cobreloa beat Colo Colo , I am assuming they will go through as 3rd chilean club, or am I wrong ? tnx to all
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Copa_Libertadores Have a read of this, it should help you get started. I dont know if you do, but to understand the libertadoes it helps to know how the league system works in south america. I cant speak for all leagues but the process to qualify from argentina is as follows. 1- Clausura Champion 2- Apertura Champion 3- 3rd best placed non champion over the apertura/clausura 4- 4th best placed non champion over the apertura/clausura 5- The best performing argentine team in the copa sudamericana that hadnt qualified already by the above methods. Hope that helps)))