No one said that... Just sore losers... I think that a duel is a man fight while stabbing someone from behind is a cowards way.... Did someone say something about poor Neymar? Not me Did he shrink? Not certainly, he was still running circles around Penarol defenders in the 93rd minute.. Did Penarol defenders came to say "Hey kiddo great game" after the end of the game? No, instead they threw punches from behind him, pulled his hair and chase him around the field... We do not see two different sports, you just refuse to acknowledge bad behaviour by your team. I do not recall who said this but I am sure that it was an uruguayan (although I think it was either Forlan senior or some famous comentator): "Garra charrua is not hacking your opponent with hard fouls and getting him injured and out of the game for life; no, is giving 110% and not assuming that anything is lost until the game has ended." We saw the latest kind of garra charrua in las WC and during the last 10 or 15 minutes last night; we saw the sore losers that do not respect a superior oponent after the end of last night's game. I respect uruguayan teams because they never give up.. but I also extremely dislike how a game of skill and finess can be transformed in a wrestling match according to their convenience.. Or if you prefer to read it from other poster:
thats ridiculous. Fair play has nothing to do with that. Nor is Havelange to blame for that to help Brazilians if anything, you can say brazilian sides got much more physical since the times of Havelange, not the opposite. also, you blame Brazilians, but what Uruguayans do, NO european team would do. you take those physical european teams... like Scotland, England, Norway, Denmark, etc... you do a "tunel" or "cano" against them and THEY ACCEPT IT!! its just in South America that we have this macho man notion that we will "clean" our honor by behaving like savages and letting temper take over, going for such brawls lets not forget that in the 60s and 70s, plenty of european teams would NOT come to play the Intercontinental Cup in South America because of the behavior of fans and players.
yes, a mixture of football and UFC. I suppose our players should start training with brazilians like Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida everytime they go facing a team from Uruguay [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7uezGfzz4"]YouTube - Lyoto Machida vs Anderson Silva vs Karate kid front kick..MMA‏[/ame]
It's really easy to say that now when all is said and done. It also depends on what source is reporting the news, because there are conflicting stories flying around. http://elcomercio.pe/deportes/80224...s-penarol-uruguayos-culparon-hincha-brasileno http://www.ultimasnoticias.com/noticias/3923-casi-medio-siglo-para-volver-a-reinar.html There's a reason why I included the word supposedly.
Sería bonito que la final terminará con "caballerosidad", como los ejemplos de la Champs. League. Lo triste es que decir eso para algunos es sinónimo de falta de virilidad: es decir saber perder/ganar sin insultar/pelear/atacar al rival significa una falta de hombría. En fin...
I have no doubt that the Brazilians started the incidents after the match. To me the brazucas are the biggest hypocrites in the game: supposedly humble when they lose, but arrogant tw@ts when they win.
A cinderella team makes it all the way to the final; If they win is a great story, if the lose they will try to kill their rivals. yes you did what the hell are you talking about? who the hell mentioned "poor Neymar"? I told you how we see the game of football, i dont know what you're reading bud which behavior are you talking about now? after the game? I already acknowledged in a previous post Peñarol's portion of guilt in what happened after the game. read man, read I agree with that. Now this is when you tell me how many Santos' players had to leave the game due to injuries caused by Peñarol players... does Alejandro Gonzalez' name ring a bell? (not whining about it btw, it happens) As I said before respect is earned not given, and last night's fight had nothing to do with the Santos players, look at the video, they were mostly going after the "fans" or security people and I said mostly because it was a melee and when that happens they're just reacting to whatever is happening around you and survival instinct takes over. And I'm not saying, again, that Peñarol's players were not guilty.(but you and the rest will ignore this, again) This is what I'm talking about Football is a game of much more than skill and fitness, like any other sport, it's will power, it's character, it's upmanship, it's intimidation, it's war, and a lot more than that, man but you can keep drinking the coolaid if you want, and keep admiring and believing "the jogo bonito" crap, me on the other hand feel like throwing up when I see it and I really dont have the time to answer everyone of you, nor want to, I told you how I see football, and I didnt ask nor need your approval it's right there, simple enough to read, just dont try to put words in my mouth over and out
un decoroso punado de fair play!!! no creo otros urguayos piensen igual o parecido the shaking hand 'part' certainly did not came up last nite
I I posted a video. Unless you want to disagree with a video! you can see that Santos guy, who DOES NOT attacks the peñarol player (only says something to him), is chased by all Peñarol players. It HIM they wanted. If Santos fans had attacked Peñarol players, they wouldnt be chasing after the Santos fan who only said something.
there is no DOUBT, because there is a video, that a brazilian SAID something to a Peñarol player. Even if it was a nasty thing, and the guy who said it was an idiot and a TERRIBLY BAD WINNER, only in a twisted mind can someone think a massive brawl should be started because of what someone said.
maybe you people MISSED the link on the previous page, of ONE Santos fan SAYING something to a Peñarol player, which started ALL Peñarol players wanting violence. http://globoesporte.globo.com/futeb...sao-com-atletas-do-penarol.html#equipe-santos
did the police had any arrests from the field or video evidence??? did penarol players left the country, without any other problems?
Yes, but in the Champions League they didn't allow any stranger into the pitch which seems was the case with some Santos supporters that were on the tunnel, for what they said on FOX Sports there were about 50.
para llegar a esa "caballerosidad" artificial se necesita organizacion en las canchas europeas nadie pisa la cancha sin que le caigan 5 "roperos" de seguridad encima no se donde leiste la otra bobada que escribiste, pero yo no la vi en ninguna declaracion de la gente de Peñarol, o sera una apreciacion personal tuya y de muchos en este foro? o sera una manera de perpetuar el mito? ahi lo vemos al pobrecito de Neymar "ayudando" a un jugador de Peñarol a levantarse como? surprised? http://www.ovaciondigital.com.uy/11...ibertadores/video-incidentes-tras-el-partido/
Hence why I said people from both teams were at fault. Someone explain that to mentally challenged guria's ass: the violence was caused/generated whatever you wanna call it by one guy but it takes two to tango. Cheers and godspeed.
Settle down buddy. I'm not able to view that video in the United States anyway because of copyright issues, yet I'm not going to disagree with you. Realize that when I posted that comment it was almost immediately as the melee was unfolding. Okay? Regardless of who was at fault, the security at the stadium failed. The reaction of the Peñarol players was disappointing and the escalation brought forth by the Santos players who participated in the chaos was deplorable.
Bottom line is that something needs to be done about Brazilian stadiums. Last year Chivas lost after which a brawl was started for the same reason as yesterdays game (fans mocking or attacking players). back then everyone was saying chivas was a sore loser. I hope now everyone sees where the real problem is.
Not what happened. Chivas players attacked Inter's players thanks to Reynoso's antics. Saying Brazilian are the cause is like me saying Chivas is the cause because I can also bring up the Chivas-Boca brawl.
To be fair, Reynoso is the same d!ck that spat/snorted shit at an Everton player in the 2009 Libertadores. I would not be surprised if he started last year's brawl, as well.
Reynoso "coughed" all over the Everton player as if he had the swine flu, which stopped Mexican participation that year. Earlier in the Inter game, he had punched Rafael Sobis several teams on the back.
shouldn't we be discussing the greatness of Santos and Neymar and not what makes certain teams and people sore losers?
He may have entered his name in the history books of the Libertadores, but I'd like to see him do the same on the international level at the Copa America. This will be his first official international tournament with the national team, so now is a good time to show his greatness along with Ganso.