Copa Libertadores 2011 (R)

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  1. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Tsk, tsk. Casually yesterday i was discussing with somebody that claimed that the brazilian league was far better because they got back players like Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Adriano and Rivaldo(who was playing in Uzbekistan...), and i was telling him that names alone now mean nothing and if they returned got to see in which condition they did.

    We'll see, we'll see... In the end our runs on the Libertadores include this kind of matches.
     
  2. Arthur V

    Arthur V Member

    Dec 29, 2008
    Brasilia, BRASIL
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Sometimes São Paulo disappoints me, but Corinthians never does.:D

    What a joke. That so call team is a shame to our nation. Embarassing our football with lame games and no will.

    The Centenário is over, the year is over, Ronaldo Gordo is over and Tite is a joke.

    100 years without Libertadores. And counting...


    P.S: Rivaldo will debut today. fingers crossed.
     
  3. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Damn thats sad. Ronaldo was my hero going up, and supposedly he is going to retire after this year just because of the libertadores. He actually thought they were going to make a good run!

    Poor guy. :(
     
  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Okay I guess I can understand why people here and in the Brazil club forums are bad mouthing Corinthians.



    But let's give Tolima some credit here. They are not chopped liver! They finished second to a great Once Caldas team in the last Colombian Championship AND they had a great run in the COPA Sudamericana only to be eliminated by the eventual champions Inependiente by road goals.


    They are going to be a tough team to beat and if they can get some momentum watch out!
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    That said, the 5 remaining Brazilian teams in CL look strong. So we may still see 3 of them reach the semifinals or something like that (hopefully not though :D)

    Looks like they are stuck in the group of death though. :eek:
     
  6. Colorado_GAUCHO

    Nov 16, 2004
    Porto Alegre-BRASIL
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8X9-aQbVBI"]YouTube - Redublagem - Corinthians Campeão da Libertadores - Todo mundo odeia o Chris[/ame]
     
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  7. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    RIP to Martin Cabrera of Cerro Porteno.


    Sad to see how Bolivar went out. Union Espanola didnt deserve that tie. They will get crushed in the next phase. A Mediocre team.

    Bolivar had many chances, even with 1 man down they continued to attack and cause trouble. The ref took our last chance from us when Lorgio Alvarez was CLEARLY onsides but was ruled off, had he not, he very well could have created/crossed the ball for a goal. Who knows.

    Even though we lost, I am happy with the tie I saw from bolivar. A much better team, with a great central defender and GK pairing in Frontini and Arguello. Arguellos saves were amazing. Without these two, we'd have lost for sure today.

    Good game... Not really disappointed, proud of my team.
     
  8. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Not only did he debut today but he debuts with an fantastic play and goal! :cool:
     
  9. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Unión Española(CHI) eliminó a Bolívar(BOL), con un triunfo global 1:0.:)

    2da fase Copa Libertadores 2011:

    Grupo 1
    Universidad San Martín(PER)
    Libertad(PAR)
    Once Caldas(COL)
    San Luis de Potosí(MÉJ)

    Grupo 2
    Junior(COL)
    Oriente Petrolero(BOL)
    León de Huánuco(PER)
    Grêmio(BRA)

    Grupo 3 (¿grupo de la muerte?)
    Argentinos Juniors(ARG)
    Nacional(URU)
    Fluminense(BRA)
    América(MÉJ)

    Grupo 4
    Caracas(VEN)
    Universidad Católica(CHI)
    Vélez Sarsfield (ARG)
    Unión Española(CHI)

    Grupo 5
    Santos(BRA)
    Colo-Colo(CHI)
    Deportivo Táchira(VEN)
    Cerro Porteño(PAR)

    Grupo 6
    Internacional(BRA)
    Jorge Wilstermann(BOL)
    Emelec(ECU)
    Jaguares(MÉJ)

    Grupo 7
    Estudiantes de La Plata(ARG)
    Guaraní de Asunción(PAR)
    Cruzeiro(BRA)
    Deportes Tolima(COL)

    Grupo 8
    Liga D.U. de Quito(ECU)
    Peñarol(URU)
    Godoy Cruz(ARG)
    Independiente de Avellaneda(ARG)

    5 brasileños
    5 argentinos
    3 chilenos
    3 colombianos
    3 mejicanos
    3 paraguayos
    2 bolivianos
    2 ecuatorianos
    2 peruanos
    2 uruguayos
    2 venezolanos

    1ra fecha, 2da fase:

    9 de febrero:
    Fluminense(BRA) vs Argentinos Juniors(ARG)
    Deportes Tolima(COL) vs Guaraní(PAR)
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    First impression picks:

    Grupo 1
    San Luis
    Libertad

    Grupo 2
    Gremio
    Junior

    Grupo 3
    Fluminense
    América

    Grupo 4
    Velez Sarsfield
    Universidad Católica

    Grupo 5
    Santos
    Colo-Colo

    Grupo 6
    Internacional
    Jaguares

    Grupo 7
    Estudiantes
    Cruzeiro

    Grupo 8
    Liga D.U.
    Independiente
     
  11. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My first blog for La Copa 2011:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/blog.php?b=10897

    Player of the week: Ismael Fuentes (Chiapas)
    Honorable mention: Vinicius Pacheco (Gremio)
    Goat of the week: Ronaldo (Corinthians)
    Dishonorable mention: Cachito Ramirez (Corinthians)
    Team of the week: Chiapas
    Honorable Mention: Tolima
    Worst team of the week: Alianza Lima
    Dishonorable mention: Corinthians
     
  12. leomessi1919

    leomessi1919 New Member

    Jun 18, 2008
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    yea because no top players have returned to argentina :rolleyes:... I mean most of those Brazilians are semi retired and Adriano was an alcoholic who has failed in Europe everywhere he went.

    Riquelme and Veron are the 2 guys who returned while still playing at a top class level and its no surprise that Boca and Estudiantes won the libertadores thanks to them. Not to mention Kily Gonzalez who was also starting at Inter when he went back to Central... From what I see, Argentines return for love of the shirt, Brazilians for the life style and $$$
     
  13. SoccerScout

    SoccerScout Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Bye Bye Corinthians...the most Hated team in Brazil!!!

    Meanwhile Internacional confirmed Argentine BOLATTI to arrive on Sunday and will pair up with recently arrived Cavenaghi, D'Alessadro and Guinazu, all Argentines.

    From the mid up its Bolatti, Guinazu, Tinga, D'Alessandro, Cavenaghi , Sobis (or Damião or Zé Roberto)

    Anyone see D'Alessandro goal yesterday for Inter?

    check it out...3rd goal, note the Beira Rio under remodeling for World Cup
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ8qNsQ8amo"]YouTube - Andrés D'Alessandro, GENIAL. 03-02-2011[/ame]

    also great view from here

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk_wS-mtW60"]YouTube - 03/02/2011 Inter 3 x 1 Juventude - Gols filmados da Arq. Superior em FULL HD[/ame]
     
  14. leomessi1919

    leomessi1919 New Member

    Jun 18, 2008
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ronaldo should return his salary to Corinthians. There were certain touches he made that reminded me of the once great, but his lack of effort both off and on the field is disrespectful to corinthians fans, just go away fatty
     
  15. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Inter is my favorite to win right now. But we'll see, it's a long tournament.
     
  16. Playaz4life

    Playaz4life Member

    Sep 29, 2010
    Santa Cruz
    Club:
    Oriente Petrolero
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Hey guys!

    I only wanted to tell Dusty and all panas here to watch out on Oriente this year. Last year we got rid of great U de Chile and almost beat Tolima until they killed our best mid guy.
     
  17. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Is the McIntosh playing for Petaré the same David McIntosh that played for Venezuela in the last 90s?? :eek:
     
  18. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yup. He must be approaching 40 by now.
     
  19. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
  20. johnie1

    johnie1 Member

    Oct 30, 2006
    cork, ireland
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Glad that independiente got to the group stage, altough they have a tough opening fixture @ penarol. Seems both teams have a lot to prove, especially after their respective apertura campaigns. Still, at least if they (indepdneiente) come 2nd in the group this time, they are in the round of 16, unlike last time when we lost to sao caetano in the playoff (on pens!!!). :(:mad:
     
  21. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Right, but with no, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldinho, Adriano or Robinho, they'll be fine without them.

    I agree, though it seems that even in Argentina players like Verón and Riquelme don't have the reputation of Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos and the rest.

    Ugh, i remember that one, when CONMEBOL wanted to have 9 groups instead of the usual 8, so we finished second but among the last qualified seconds so we had to play that match.
     
  22. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The difference is that their guys won the World Cup and our guys did not. But Veron and Riquelme returned to Argentina when they were still in their prime and had a lot of great football left. And they both led their team to win Copa Libertadores.

    The only Brazilian from that list that you can say that he came back to Brazil and played consistently at a high level is Robinho, but he couldn't lead Santos to win Copa Libertadores, and besides, he's not up there with Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Roberto Carlos in the Pantheon of the Gods.

    Maybe Ronaldinho will fit in that category, but he still has to prove on the field that he remains at his high level, just like Veron did when he was written off in Europe. He's certainly one to watch.

    You can actually make a better argument for the strength of the Brazilian league based on the Argentines that returned from Europe and went to play in Brazil, like D'alessandro, Guinazu, Maxi Lopez and so on. They arguably had more of an impact in bringing success to Brazilian clubs than the returning Brazilians.
     
  23. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA
    Does anyone here know when and who club America's first game is in this years addition of Copa Libertadores is it against?
     
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    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown

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