Copa Libertadores 2009 [R]

And again, i dont see what the problem is with playing in altitude, at least for bolivia. Our club teams like i stated cant compete with most brasilian clubs, especially Real Potosi which will get trumped i am sure real bad in Potosi. 'let me ask you somethin' why ya care' (larry king voice) lol.

Give us our home win, while we get beat up in brasil. You guys will probably rest most of the starters in bolivia anyways.

 

Geez.... hmmm... i mean they had/have players that used to be something, like Gatty Ribiero, little short brown guy with good cuts and passing, but his overweight is what killed him. He's not overthe hill age wise, at under 30 maybe 29? But his no care of being slim/ in good physical state is what brought him down.

Beyond having some over the hill players for bolivia, they never have had success only participating in 3 copa libertadores, counting this one. Oh yea and also one copa sudamericana participation. They never have got out of either beyond their first round.

The only teams that ever make waves in international tournaments are our big clubs, as stated earlier, Bolivar, Blooming, Oriente Petrolero, The Strongest.

If these teams arent in, then most likely they will not get to the next round.

Hopefully Universitario(first time ever winning a first div. championship) and Aurora(a very poor bolivian team).

All teams though are basically set up to get beat up. Hopefully one can pull through, basically either aurora or Universitario.

 

Union Minas from Peru played in a higher ground..... 4312 msnm!

here's a clip of it

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfA9Fgv6rrE"]YouTube - UNIVERSITARIO DE DEPORTES CAMPEON EN CERRO DE PASCO[/ame]


at least potosi's field looks better than ALCIDES CARRION

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3va7u6OphoY"]YouTube - Futbol Peruano, Futbol Chacra: Minas-Alianza 1993 Parte 2[/ame]

 

i wouldnt consider guadalajara, medellin and cali as "altitude" cities....

and is potosi this 4,824 m?

i really cant believe it! does real potosi play in potosi, or do they have their stadium in a neighboor town? and is the pitch at 4824?

the reason why i included union minas is because they have their stadium at 4312 m, but the city cerro de pasco has an average altitude of 4200m

 

las time i checked was in wikipedia, and they have this

"Cerro de Pasco(4300) is often the place where some Peruvian Football teams like Union Minas or Deportivo Wanka play, sometimes criticized for the height of the stadium because of the snow and lack of oxygen."

"Potosí is a city, the capital of the department of Potosí in Bolivia. It is claimed to be the highest city in the world at a nominal 4,090 m (13,420 feet).[1] It lies beneath the Cerro de Potosí — sometimes referred to as the Cerro Rico ("rich mountain") — a mountain popularly conceived of as being "made of" silver ore, which has always dominated the city. Cerro de Potosí's peak is 4,824 meters (15,827 feet) above sea level."


so i guessed potosi's highest point is that one 4824... i really couldnt believe that a game was played at such altitude. well at least a proffesional game, because i dont know if you guys remember it, but evo once played one of his fidel's games at a town in bolivia with an altitude of 5200. the game's purpose was to protest against FIFA and the denial and ban to play football in altitude

 

good research, these are the teams that are competing in this 2009 edition, but i just wanted to include some cities that have held at least a game in the past.

Bogota ~ 2600 right?
Mexico DF ~ 2200 right? add smog to it
Arequipa ~ 2300 - Cienciano played some matches there while Garcilazo from Cuzco was remodel for Copa America 2004
Calama ~ 2800? if this city has a high elevetaion, i really found it weird because i never seen a comment of chileans complaining...
Manizales ~ 2000? isnt that city around that height?


i probably forget some cities...

 

I dont think so, cobreloa IMO is a better team, i dont know about that year, but def. in general.

 

Quito es a 2850 que no es nada...
Yo hago montañismo y cuando estuve en la cima del Ruco Pichincha (4800m.) la semana pasada, empeze a jugar futbol con un balon de futbol sala que llevamos y la verdad es que te quedas sin aire despues de unos 20 minutos jaja

 

LOL Got that mixed up, my bad mengao. Friendship?

 

The only teams to do anything ( and by anything I mean at least make it to the second round) were Bolivar, Strongest, and to some extent Wilstermann.

Oriente and Blooming have not done well in the past.

 

Re: Copa Libertadores 2009

You're right. Chivas is not as big as Sao Paulo. NEVER.

Sao Paulo has his history to prove.

 

you guys have calama, we have cuzco, arequipa, and many mreo cities in altitude, but guess what, our team trains in lima just before playing bolivia, ecuador or colombia

argentina once trained in LA QUIACA, next to bolivia, but peru? even there we suck man....

and why couldnt cobreloa play in calama? was it because the stadium was small or just because conmebol say so?

 

Yeh weird, Im pretty sure its closer distance from Lima to any high alt city in Peru than it is from Santiago to Calama. Also, the Chilean Airforce lets the national team use air pressure thingies to help em adapt.

 

Altitude? Bah, i remember a match of the Sudamericana a couple of years ago between Real Potosí and Audax Italiano at Potosi, it was snowing even.

 

Well for LDUQ .. the city of Quito is at like 2,800 ... but their stadium (Casa Blanca) is in a lower part of the city... The measured elevation of Casa Blanca is 2,700.

 

the stadium of potosí is at 4,400

 

thanks manya....


the highest soccer stadium in th world? huh

 

What do you mean by closer distance? Did you meant closer altitude levels? If so, not at all. Lima is 0-1,548m Making the coast to 0 and further in 1,548m.

Maybe you meant km distance, if so you will be wrong again.
From Lima to the south of Puno which is the furthest altitude city from Lima is 1540.61 Kilometros, and from Santiago to Calama is 1225.21 Kilometros.

About Chivas, we really cant say much about Chivas b/c their lack of participation in la Copa Libertadores.
For me all time history best teams of Latin America are:
1) Independiente de la Avellaneda
2) River Plate
3) Peñarol
4) Sao Paulo
5) Boca Junior
6) Santos (Brasil)
7) Cruzeiro
8-10) Velez, Gremio, Palmeiras,

Estos equipos en cuanto historia son envidiables.