Copa Libertadores 2009 - grp stage part 2 [R]

Guayaquileño · Apr 8, 2009

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DustyLucho said: ↑

Cuenca is my candidate.
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I see them advancing.

superfrantheman · Apr 8, 2009

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Futjol said: ↑

Bueno y yo lo dije. Cuando empezo la Copa, dije que la San Martin y la "U" iban a pasar sus grupos. Varios dijieron : "No, na que ver","Que son malos","Que no tienen historia","Que San Lorenzo era un equipo muy fuerte","Que River quedaba Primero", "Que San Luis era el que pasaba".

Hoy vengo a decirler, señores se equivocaron.
Hoy por Hoy, River esta casi eliminado y jugando Matematicamente.
Aunque yo vi el partido de la San Martin con Nacional, la verdad es que me da mucho coraje la manera de jugar de San Martin. Jugo a media maquina. empezo ganando y pudiendolo ganar. Pero se dejo complicar el partido porque estaban happy de la vida con el empate. Nacional de Uruguay le pinto la cara a River y casi se lleva la victoria.

Ahora lo de la "U" es aplaudible. Le gano nada mas y nada menos hasta ayer el mejor equipo de la Copa Libertadores en numeros y en puntos.
La Libertad Gano todos sus partidos (hasta ayer) y solo habia recibido 3 goles, que fueron los 3 de Universitario.
San Lorenzo necesita ganar en Mexico al San Luis, lo veo casi imposible, y con eso la "U" ya paso a octavos de final. YAY for me!

Es verdad es la primera vez que el Chino Ximenes le hace un gol a la "U", no lo podia creer. Creo que por eso ni lo marcaron, por que siempre se fallaba goles contra la "U".
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La U la tiene algo mas facil....

y con respecto a Ximenez siempre fue marcado por Galvan y bien marcado. de los cuatro partidos contra la U , SC solo le metio 3 goles a la U en el 2008

1-0 U, 2-1 U, 1-2 SC, 1-0 U 2 goles de dani sanchez, 1 gol del chorri

argentine soccer fan · Apr 8, 2009

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Futjol said: ↑

Bueno y yo lo dije. Cuando empezo la Copa, dije que la San Martin y la "U" iban a pasar sus grupos. Varios dijieron : "No, na que ver","Que son malos","Que no tienen historia","Que San Lorenzo era un equipo muy fuerte","Que River quedaba Primero", "Que San Luis era el que pasaba".

Hoy vengo a decirler, señores se equivocaron.
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Es un poco prematuro decir categoricamente, 'se equivocaron', porque todavia no hay nada definido.

Pero es cierto que el juego de los equipos de Peru esta sorprendiendo a muchos, incluyendome a mi. Aun con Solano, no pense que Universitario iba a avanzar, y la verdad que San Martin es uno de los equipos de los que menos sabia, aunque si tengo entendido que esta muy bien manejado.

Buena suerte, ojala que eliminen a River y San Lorenzo.

superfrantheman · Apr 8, 2009

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a mi me sorprende mas lo de la U, porque estan jugando bien. ya no dependen tanto de solano, miguel torres o de fernandez, el arquero.

ahora gente como revoredo y quina vienen jugando mejor, piero alva, algo increible, metio dos goles decisivos! galvan juega cada vez mejor, y johan vasquez el que entra siempre por solano maneja bien los hilos del equipo

lo de la san martin no me sorprende. yo diria que lo de sa martin es una especie de ecuador en los mundiales. en su primera participacion en copa fueron a "participar" y "aprender". no les fue del todo mal, pero les falto mucho. en cambio ahora ya sacaron 7 de puntos de 12 posibles y si continuan asi pasan a segunda ronda, asi como ecuador lo hizo en el 2006 detras de alemania.
la san martin es un equipo nuevo, creado en el 2004 y que es hoy en dia el mejor manejado en el peru. en sus cortos 4 anios ha logrado los siguientes meritos

-2004, luegio de quedar ultimos en el primer torneo del anio con 10 puntos, hicieron 47 en el clausura 2004 alcanzando el segundo puesto en dicho torneo y salvandose del descenso.
-2005, estuvieron bien, lograron acceder a su primera sudamericana.
-2006, participo en su primera sudamericana, donde fueron eliminados en los primeros dos partidos pero al menos eso cuenta como experiencia. lastima que descuidaron en algo el torneo local donde quedaron 6tos en la tabla general
-2007, primer campeonato de la san martin, campeon del apertura, y debido a que bolognesi nom quedo entre los primeros 6 en el apertura 2007 quedo campeon nacional 2007 y accedio a su primera libertadores.

-2008, aqui viene el gran merito de la san martin. primera libertadores y segundo titulo nacional.

-2009 luego de varias bajas. muchos jugadores se fueron a clubes como AL y SC la san martin participa en su segunda libertadores....

Pelo_Sport_Tudo · Apr 8, 2009

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Ugh, the anxiety is settling in for Sport x Palmeiras. That is going to be one ugly game. I cannot believe they tape delayed it for 5 hours. I guess I'll have to find it streaming somewhere.

chaski · Apr 8, 2009

I closed the old thread
https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=942886&page=51
because it was over 500 posts

Century's Best · Apr 8, 2009

Sao Lourenco loses to Sao Luis. An Argie team is out of Copa Libertadores 2009.

Cruzeiro's bus got stuck in traffic. THe FOx guys were arguing as to whether it was imprudence on Cruzeiro's part or not. Apparently there were demonstrations on the highway.

Cruzeiro will not benefit from this. They'll have to get off the bus, change into game gear, adn rush onto the field.

BorrachoNJ · Apr 8, 2009

and of course FOCKS wastes our time, forcing us to listen to these hacks instead of possibly switching to the other matches underway.

Dominican Lou · Apr 8, 2009

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and of course FOCKS wastes our time, forcing us to listen to these hacks instead of possibly switching to the other matches underway.
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I don't know, it was kind of amusing watching Closs, Benedeto and that other dude with their matching, twenty-year-old beach bum haircuts.

BorrachoNJ · Apr 8, 2009

Dominican Lou said: ↑

I don't know, it was kind of amusing watching Closs, Benedeto and that other dude with their matching, twenty-year-old beach bum haircuts.
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Century's Best · Apr 8, 2009

Estudantes da Prata wins a convincing game over Cruzeiro, 4-0. Cruzeiro was never really in it. Their bus was late and I don’t know what happened on their way to La Plata, but I speculate it may have unnerved the players. They were nervous, and it showed; Estudantes, on the other hand, visibly wanted it more. They played more aggressively, fought for every football possession, double- and triple-teamed Cruzeiro’s ballhandlers, and forced Cruzeiro into mistakes. It was a terrible mistake by Marquinhos Paraná that allowed Verón to create the 2nd goal for his team. Cruzeiro never recovered, and Estudantes continued its incisive posture in the 2nd half. They again caught Cruzeiro’s defense not paying attention when they scored the 3rd goal, and the 4th goal was embarrassing for the Brazilian team.

Cruzeiro’s 19-match unbeaten streak this season ended ignominiously. They didn’t concentrate enough and Estudantes took advantage.

The Brazilians are still on top of this group, and they should win their final match, a home game vs. Deportivo Quito. Estudantes, who was struggling early on, got rid of Leonardo Astrada and they have won their last two games, at home, by 4-0. The La Plata team is definitely resurgent and look like a lock in the round of 16 along with their rivals tonight.

Unfortunately, Sport Recife vs. Palmeiras was not broadcast, but Palmeiras won and ended another Brazilian team’s long unbeaten streak – on away turf. First-round elimination would be catastrophic for Palmeiras, and they will demonstrate this when they host Sport Recife at Parque Antárctica next week. Sport Recife will be up to the challenge, but Palmeiras will probably face this as the most important game in many years. I think they’ll pull it off – I can’t see a team led by Vanderlei Luxemburgo and with this combination of talented youths and veterans losing a second straight Libertadores game at home.

10-man São Lourenço beaten and eliminated from the tournament by 10-man São Luís in Mexico. An Argentine team has already crashed and burned; looks like Lanús may follow suit, and it’s too bad, because I for one was hoping for a rematch of last year’s playoff matchup between São Lourenço and Rio da Prata. If the latter doesn’t improve its game, we may not see Rio da Prata play in the round of 16 at all.

Futjol · Apr 9, 2009

La "U" ya clasifico, estamos?
It would be really hard for San Luis to beat La Libertad in Paraguay. Specially when Libertad wishes to accumulate as many points as possible to play against the easiest team in Octavos de Final.

Angel Russo, has quit as coach of San Lorenzo (too bad b/c I like SL the most in Argentina).

I think the most interesting group at the moment is Group 1. I think Palmeiras will actually end 2nd in the group after Sport Recife.

The worst team in la Copa is Aurora de Bolivia. 0 points, -10 goals. =)

Bolivianfuego · Apr 9, 2009

^^^Yep, Aurora isnt ready to compete internationally....

Arthur V · Apr 9, 2009

Cruzeiro didn't play very weel and lost. Sport lost too...dammit. Now Palmeiras still have chance.

Today is the game that matters: São Paulo x Defensor. Over 38.990 tickets sold. The limit is 64.000, but I think it won't sold out. Maybe 50.000 tonight.

Morumbi will be on fire.

Andrés_ · Apr 9, 2009

I don't get why many teams don't stay in La Plata directly rather than staying in Buenos Aires and then heading to La Plata, you're bound to have delays on the way(done mostly by the teams from Buenos Aires or the southern zone). Also today and tomorrow are holidays in Argentina there's a lot of tourism movement, that may have caused their delay.

Anyway, San Lorenzo lost and is out with the win San Luis may still have a chance(a draw would've eliminated both them and would've given Universitario a ticket to the round of 16). Estudiantes won and has a decent shot of making it to the round of 16. River tied and things get more complicated(nearly impossible?).

locoxriver · Apr 9, 2009

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River tied and things get more complicated(nearly impossible?).
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It depends the way you look at it: if San Martin lose to Nacional (URU) next round, and River wins their remaining two games, we're through. I don't see it as an impossible achievement, and I actually think it's possible.

Andrés_ · Apr 9, 2009

Ah, then there's still a chance they make it through. But if San Martín wins River is out?

Caturro · Apr 9, 2009

Que rajazo el de Colo Colo... aun y jugando mal queda puntero. La U ayer se rompio el culo y solo le alcanzo parar el segundo lugar. xD

C'est la vie.

HeartandSoul · Apr 9, 2009

Caturro said: ↑

Que rajazo el de Colo Colo... aun y jugando mal queda puntero. La U ayer se rompio el culo y solo le alcanzo parar el segundo lugar. xD

C'est la vie.
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Autogol de Bieler

Caturro · Apr 9, 2009

HeartandSoul said: ↑

Autogol de Bieler
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Pobre Bieler...

Yo creo que con este empate alcanza para descomprimir algo el ambiente... ?

A veces se nota demasiado la inexperiencia de Barticciotto.

MetroChile · Apr 9, 2009

Caturro said: ↑

Pobre Bieler...

Yo creo que con este empate alcanza para descomprimir algo el ambiente... ?

A veces se nota demasiado la inexperiencia de Barticciotto.
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Yo creo que ya habiendo sacado un resultado positivo (gracias Bieler) en Quito, es momento de hecharlo. Me da la sensacion que perdio el respeto del camarin.

Century's Best · Apr 9, 2009

São Paulo 2, Defensor Sporting.

São Paulo did not play well at all in the first half. It was erratic and disjointed, and Defensor Sporting was not intimidated by having to face the current Brazilian champions on their turf.

Rogério Ceni committed an uncharacteristic gaffe, and the Uruguayans held their own into the 2nd half. Borges clutched, though, especially with that second goal. The Defensor Sporting defenders made a terrible error, but that's the nature of this sport.

SPFC scoring was a matter of time. They were pressing Defensor, which had to repeatedly foul my team's players, and we got two strikes against the woodwork.

My team's doing well. It won 3 and drew one - their first game at home, which they should have won. They will have to visit DIM in Colombia in mid-April and they close off their first-round play by hosting America de Cali, whom they easily defeated 1-3 in Cali.

And, SPFC has now assured itself a berth in the round of 16.

Gremio, Sport, Palmeiras, and Cruzeiro also representing Brazil this year. I hope all of them make it through (and I think Gremio and Cruzeiro are shoe-ins to the round of 16), whereas I don't think both Sport and Palmeiras will make it. Then again, you never know.

guri · Apr 9, 2009

Defensor took an alternative team to Brazil today.
They were reserving their main players for the weekend.
They currently lead the Uruguayo tournament and they'll be mainly focusing on that.

Arango82 · Apr 9, 2009

good win by San Pablo it was funky at the stary but the compose themselves as the game went on.

locoxriver · Apr 10, 2009

Andrés_ said: ↑

Ah, then there's still a chance they make it through. But if San Martín wins River is out?
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Nope. If San Martin wins vs. Nacional (URU) and River win their last two games (vs. Nacional (PAR) and San Martin), then River and San Martin would be tied for second place with 10 points and goal difference would have to be used to determine who advances. Technically speaking, if the same scenario happens, but Nacional also loses their remaining two games, then all three teams would be tied in the first place spot.

Keep in mind that for now the goal difference is playing against River, since we lost 3-0 to Nacional in Montevideo.