Copa Libertadores 2004 con 36 equipos? 4 plazas para CONCACAF http://www.laopinion.com/deportes/?rkey=00030611190311809483 Como hacen el torneo con 36??
esto no se habia acabado hace un mes? La final de la Copa de Campeones de Concacaf 2003 no tiene aún fecha pero tiene como protagonistas a dos equipos mexicanos: Toluca y Morelia. Es decir, de implementarse la expansión y la invitación al área, estos dos equipos podrían enrolarse de manera directa. end of quote! Y es indefinido el dia de la final? ahora entiendo la espera del amigo paciente. buena idea, as long as the grp of 4 from concacaf, play each other and move on vs. grps of conmebol, notice that they do not even touch the 4th team from argentina or brazil.
Copa Libertadores 2004 con 36 equipos? They should keep it like before, This is like the champions league having Kazakhstan and Israel.
Leoz says CONMEBOL is studying the idea of expansion to guarantee places for Mexico clubs. http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-libertadores&prov=reuters&type=lgns
Re: Copa Libertadores 2004 con 36 equipos? It is so evident, that our most sought out Libertadores cup is being tailored for the clubs with the most money...and in this case it has to be the Mexican clubs. I mean why stop at 4? why not just put in an extra 20 teams? Ridiculous... I understand if maybe they were going to even up the odds a bit for the other South American nations by allowing countries like Colombia, Peru, Uruguay, etc., to have 4 teams versus 3 (like Arg. + Brazil). Or if they were giving Venezuela their direct 2-3 spots. It's a matter of time before a CONCACAF club wins this thing and then the European football community will equate that with 'weakness' in our own south american leagues. On top of that, how insulting is it going to be if a CONCACAF club wins the Libertadores but it's only a South AMerican team that can participate in the Intercontinetal ?? You'll never see the Champions League allowing clubs from Asia, Africa, South America...
whats wrong with expanding the tourney, someday this could be an america's cup, which i think would be awesome. Its not like the mexican teams and MLS are that bad, and in 10-15 years they could be quite good. I think it only helps the competition.
La MLS en la Copa Libertadores? Me gustaria ver algunos equipos de la MLS en la Copa Libertadores. Seria una buena prueba para ellos y talvez les ayuda levantar la calidad de su juego. Pero creo que la unica cosa que los previene es el dinero. Lastima.
In your Face Sudacas Tendría México dos plazas fijas en la Libertadores El cambio es para beneficiar a México, por pedido de la cadena de televisión Fox, y de paso sacará provecho Venezuela. Actualmente dos conjuntos de México y otros tantos de Venezuela se eliminan entre sí para ocupar sólo dos casilleros http://eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=153990&tabla=notas 4 MFL Clubs in Copa Libertadores, Oh Joy
Si esta bien te felicito, me parece babaro. Pero me parece que tambien le tendria que dar los dos extra cupos a la MLS. Tambien porque te dirijes desiendo sudacas, eso es algo bajo y feo-PELOTUDO!!!
The Mexican + MLS teams aren't that bad at all. I understand that. It has to do with the proud history of the tournament possibly changing too much. I have to say, just like Venezuela has to have this Pre-lIbertadores tournament, they should allow the MLS teams to be involved.
MLS teams should be allowed in when they bring some money to the table. Mexican teams have proven to be worthy opponents and they bring the T.V. money. What has MLS ever shown no money and their teams bombed in the MercoNorte.
To me, watching Boca playing a team from Mexico is not the same as watching them play a team from Uruguay, Colombia or Brasil. Obviously, it is always exciting and significant to win the cup, but somehow if the rival was, for example, Cruz Azul, it is not the same feeling as beating Santos at the Murumbi. I guess it takes time to develop those types of rivalries. But we cannot deny that the Mexican league has grown and that they provide good competition to the South American clubs.
CONMEXICOBOL Originally posted by DavidPablo To me, watching Boca playing a team from Mexico is not the same as watching them play a team from Uruguay, Colombia or Brasil. What about watching Boca play teams from Venezuela and Bolivia ??? Obviously, it is always exciting and significant to win the cup, but somehow if the rival was, for example, Cruz Azul, it is not the same feeling as beating Santos at the Murumbi. Cruz Azul gave Boca an even better challange than Santos by beating the Xeneizes 1-0 at la Bombonera and forcing the match to pk's. I guess it takes time to develop those types of rivalries. Theres no question about the Rivalry between Brazil/Argentina but Santos had not been in teh Copa Libertadores in Years.. But we cannot deny that the Mexican league has grown and that they provide good competition to the South American clubs. Argentine Clubs havent been able to beat Mexican clubs in the past two years of Copa Libertadores, Not even in Buenos Aires. Now im not saying the MFL is a better league but what more competition can you ask for ?
Mexican clubs did not get even one point against Argentina clubs in this year's torneo. MÉXICO EN LA MIRA DE LA COPA Nicolás Leoz informó a la prensa que está en estudio la posibilidad de que, a partir del año próximo, dos equipos mexicanos ingresen directamente al cuadro de competición, sin enfrentamiento con los equipos venezolanos, que también integrarán el lote de clasificados. "Pero esto depende de las negociaciones que se realizan con la televisión. Nosotros estamos resguardando los intereses de los clubes sudamericanos, y para que se acepte el ingreso de los equipos mexicanos deberá haber una compensación económica para los nuestros". http://www.conmebol.com/mrel/A/54292.html
Copa Libertadores 2004 con 36 equipos? Originally posted by Mario Cruz Azul only lost 6-1 to some unknown uruguayan club! It was to Club Fenix but guess what Sparky ? Cruz Azul fired half of their starters and fielding players from their reserves managed to beat Fenix and Gremio and advance to the second round. Fenix stayed at Home. Originally posted by Chaski Mexican clubs did not get even one point against Argentina clubs in this year's torneo I meant the past two years that they faced each other : However i must make a correction since Boca did beat Cruz Azul in Mexico City but the Mexican Clubs have not lost in Buenos Aires. http://www.conmebol.com/scripts/runisa.dll?S7:gp:938388:71185+/gl/compet+1081+2002+S http://www.conmebol.com/scripts/runisa.dll?S7:gp:938388:71185+cla/2001/resultados+1081+2001 Originally posted by DavidPablo I am not talking about how difficult the matches are. I mean as a fan, the feeling of rivalry and hatred against another club, and the pleasure of beating them. We haven't developed those feelings towards Mexican teams yet. Although, since I am now living in the US and have met lots of Mexican fans, I am beggining to get more satisfaction from Boca beating Mexican teams. But for people still living in Argentina I am sure the feelings (of rivalry, hatred, whatever) are not there yet. I see what you mean. Still Mexican Clubs have only been competing since 98 and have a long way to go before they can develop any Rivalries. With all the Sud Americanos in Mexican Clubs There must be some hinchas that look forward to playing aganst Mexican Clubs..
Le recuerdo a mi amigo mexicano que en los ultimos años, los equipos de ese pais no han apaleado a los clubes de Venezuela... en la ultima edicion Estudiantes de Merida estuvo apunto de clasificar, si no fuera por Nacional de Tachira que estaba en bancarrota y habian vendido muchos de sus jugadores, ademas que jugaron en el estadio de Estudiante la Pre-libertadores para no gastar dinero. Nacional ahora esta jugando en 2da division luego de haberse retirado del torneo por falta de dinero (todavia le deben a sus jugadores). Y tambien te recuerdo que mucho clubes mexicanos han perdido aca en Venezuela... No digo que los clubes de Venezuela somos mejores, yo admito que uds son superiores... pero la distancia no es tan grande como parece. Con esto dicho, yo si estoy de acuerdo con la ampliacion. PD: tambien los clubes de Boliva ponen buena resistencia. Ej: Bolivar en la Sudamericana
"Lo anunció Presidente de Fede Mexico... ¿México con cuatro plazas a la Copa Libertadores? México, 09/07/03 (Diario El Universal). México va por cuatro plazas a la Copa Libertadores, la noticia fue confirmada por Alberto de la Torre, presidente de la Federación Mexicana en una conferencia de prensa ofrecida en las instalaciones del organismo rector del balompié nacional. "En unos diez días firmaremos el contrato con la Conmebol”,. Explicó que la FMF logrará dos plazas directas al torneo más importante de América a nivel de clubes. Además, se mantendrán los otros dos boletos vía eliminatoria con Venezuela, gracias a un contrato firmado por la Conmebol con el promotor Eduardo Aguirre. " Can anyone hear Steven Tyler singing in the background: 'Dream On'?
"No importa... ahi si Venezuela montara una protesta inmensa..." why? they would still be getting money from mexico to play the pre libertadores for their 2 spots so why would they protest? even if they did do you think conmebol would listen and not give mexico 2 direct spots? Fox Sports has already told conmebol they want Mexico in so the money has spoken and you know it is all about money. If 4 mexican teams participate I bet all get out to the second round (like brazilian teams) and one gets to the final first year of this happening. All the 4 teams getting to the second round would happen each year as south american teams still havent learned to win in mexico and they don't know much about most MFL clubs (except cruz azul and america)