News: Copa America to align with Euros

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Unak78, Mar 20, 2017.

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How do you feel about this turn of events?

  1. Happy about this and all it entails...

    21 vote(s)
    58.3%
  2. Happy about the fact that they're switching to the Euro schedule... pero en los Estados Unidos...

    11 vote(s)
    30.6%
  3. Not happy about any of this and I hate change. I don't even like to change clothes,... or bathwater

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Yup, especially the US bribery part.

    Always glad to provide complete context.
     
  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Not pertinent to the discussion but thanks.
     
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    False.
    Bein had the rights to the 2015 Copa America. That was held before the Centenario.
     
  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Looks like the Colombian threats worked.

    The Final will be in Colombia.:thumbsup:
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I know its not gonna happen, but my plea regarding the format for next year's tournament is that when a 1st-place team plays a 4th-place team in the QFs, there should be no PKs. If its tied after 90 minutes the group winner advances to the semis.

    Otherwise there is no real advantage to finishing 1st versus finishing 4th in your group. The group stage, which is endless (5 games), will just be about finishing above Qatar and Bolivia.
     
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  6. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    That's a great idea actually. It makes the game more interesting for one, since there's no reward for parking the bus and getting a draw to go to pks, and it's arguably even fairer. Penalties are a lottery, anyway, that hardly show the true merits of a team. At least group records are an actual performance metric, even if they're not tied to the particular game in question.
     
  7. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I like the sudden death rule.
     
  8. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FWIW, Liga MX had their playoffs set up that way...then added away goals.

    The application here isn't exact, obviously (home-and-away vs. one-offs), but a possible, unintentional consequence is encouraging the higher seeds to sit on their 0-0 "lead".

    What I would suggest, rather, is (depending on if we'll have quarterfinals and semifinals in both countries) let the #1 and #2 seeds stay where they are, and obligate #3 and #4 to have to travel. That is...

    Colombia bracket

    N1 vs. S4
    N2 vs. S3

    Argentina bracket

    S1 vs. N4
    S2 vs. N3
     
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  9. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    @Paul Calixte very likely how the 2020 CA knockout fixtures will be.

    Let worse qualified teams get sick from temperature changes, by traveling earlier in the tournament between ARG + COL (16 Celsius differential between Buenos Aires and Medellin, at this moment).
     
  10. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    To be fair in Sao Paulo it was about 30 Celcius for Chile yesterday and it is expected to be 15 Celcius in Porto Alegre on Wednesday for their Semis.
    So extreme weather can be a factor in one country as host too you know.
     
  11. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Yeah, I saw Porto Alegre fans wearing winter clothes during the last match.

    No wonder some athletes picked up respiratory problems after playing in that venue.
     
  12. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just in case it has not been mentioned here before (too lazy to check): Conmebol has officially confirmed that:

    1) Colombia will host the Final
    2) Argentina will host (and presumably play in) the opener, and
    3) Each host will get 2 QFs and a SF.
     
  13. rooboy91

    rooboy91 Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Perth, Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Any word on when the invitees draw will be?
     
  14. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I was going to say probably when the rest of the draw is done but realised that they have already done that. Where ever we end up it will be challenging, but hopefully we can win our first competitive match on South American soil (or even get our first draw).
     
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  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fingers crossed for an Australia-Uruguay rematch :D
     
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  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The soap opera is not over yet.
    Now there are reports that Colombia may host the whole thing.
     
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  17. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  19. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    They will probably lose TV viewers to the EuroCup games; at the moment the Copa has a unique slot in the calendar.
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #570 HomietheClown, Jul 24, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2019
    The 2016 Copa America Centenario overlapped with Euro 2016 and the ratings were really good for the most part. IT was also the highest attended Copa of all time.

    You have to also remember that match times will not conflict much due to different time zones so I don't think there will be much drop off in numbers.
     
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  21. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I see; it will be interesting to see whether that situation is replicated next summer.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but kick-off times are usually earlier in the day in South America compared to Europe. For example, at WC2014 no games were played during the evening.
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The World Cup is different than Copa America.
    Most Copa America matches (if not all) will be scheduled to be played after the Euro matches are done.
    I don't remember too many conflicts in 2016.

    And for another point of reference this year there were maybe one or two matches that conflicted the the Women's World Cup times in France.
     
  23. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There is also the audience outside the Americas to think about: I expect they will generally prefer to watch the EuroCup than the Copa America,
     
  24. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I would've seriously contemplated travelling to Colombia if not for the Euros happening at the same time. The added incentive to visit St. Petersburg, Copenhagen and Amsterdam was too much to resist.
     
  25. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except they wouldn't have to choose, as long as Conmebol doesn't schedule any game before 5pm (US Eastern).
     

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