Copa America 2015: Argentina vs Colombia QF

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by jimmi_moh, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Paraguay- brasil 1-1! Intense match!
     
  2. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    LOL, Brasil pidiendo la hora.
     
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  3. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  4. Pirlopurity

    Pirlopurity Member

    Jun 12, 2015
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Well guys, I'm going to gloat about my Paraguay beating Brazil prediction:)


    GO AND WIN THE FINAL NOW GUYS!!!!!!!!


    GO ARGENTINA!!!!!!:thumbsup:
     
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  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Wow no Uruguay, Brazil or Colombia in semis. I predict Argentina vs the host in the final.

    Hopefully we finally put a convincing win in semifinal.
     
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  6. Pirlopurity

    Pirlopurity Member

    Jun 12, 2015
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Yep, I had you guys playing and beating Chile in the final from the start. To me there are very important factors as to why I had you guys winning this tournament.

    - The best squad. Simple as that. Star studded team full of world class players.

    - Losing the world cup final - Winning the Copa won't make up for it, but it will go a long way to at least ease some of the pain. It will set a few wrongs right. Determination is a big thing in sport and in life. Argentina were left with a sour taste in their mouth so there is driving force behind them and kind of a revenge factor. Revenge against the world call it if you will.

    - Argentina haven't won a trophy for some time. Good, world class powerhouse teams like Argentina can't keep failing to win. Like Germany in 2014, 18 year drought for silverware and 24 years since winning a world cup. Big teams always come up sooner or later.
     
  7. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    True, after 1970 Brazil failed to get pass quarterfinal in 5 consecutive World cups but they finally won it, the same with Italy in 2006 since 1982 and also Germany as you mentioned. Argentina come close last year but ultimately failed at the end. However, great performance boost confidence, Uruguay won last year Copa after finishing as semifinalist in 2010, hence I've predicted Argentina could win this tournamnet because now they'd have the mentallity to do it.

    That tough game against Uruguay recently , no way the 2011 team would find a way to win it. We would have lose to Colombia too either by late goal or a shootout. This team however was able to keep their cool despite failing to convert most of their chances. Its similar to that Sabella's team in the World cup. Thrashing win isnt as important as final results. In 1994, 1998, 2006, 2010 , Argentina thrashed their opponent 4-0, 5-0. 6-0 and 4-1 at group stage , yet didnt get pass the QF ceiling.

    The whole world wanna see our frontlines scores altogether in every game but this is not PS game. Higuain and Di Maria scored just once in World cup but they're both a winning goals at knockout round. Aguero and Higuain scored once against Uruguay and Jamaica, again they're both a winning goal.
     
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  8. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yes! Great post!
     
  9. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Maybe you have a point...but all we know that this team can do still more....
     
  10. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Simeone would be one willing to create a solid defensive unit and pragmatic midfield and hit hard on the counter against better opponents while pressing weaker ones into submission.

    I think the substitutions were fine. Pastore is dangerous coming from deep with his bursts of acceleration and ability to carry the ball and find a splitting pass (although he is also casual still twice losing the ball with passes of just a few feet which makes him infuriating at times) but with Colombia squeezing the midfield more he did fade out of the game. Perhaps he should have pulled wider but one positive in this tournament is his overall play and linkup with Messi.

    Our pressing was excellent as well for much of the game and being Argentina and with all the attacking talent and the BPITW all teams are going to be wary of us. Hardly any will come out and attack us knowing they will be exposed.

    Perhaps we could do with more width as well as more quality on crosses because the centre of defence remains congested as we constantly try to thread a needle through the opposition. The crossing quality was better against Colombia and ADM showed a little more return to form but on his side Rojo has been poor while Zabaleta has rarely ventured forward although when he has he does provide quality including that assist to Kun.
     
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  11. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Our lethal counter attacking unit under sabella

     
  12. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Higuain suffered ankle injury before the World cup and he never look as fast since.

     
  13. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    All four coaches in the semi-finals are Argentine.....so much for a dearth of coaching talent. And a rebuttal to those demanding that the seleccion be coached by a foreigner.
     
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  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    anyb0dy asked for that???? what they wanted???
     
  15. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    His sub was fine, its the timing that wasnt. Colombia never threatened once yet Tata still somehow scared and waited till it's almost over before making those subs. Oh and I already mentioned, all his subs scored their penalty perfectly.
     
  16. Siempre_Albiceleste

    May 31, 2006
    NY
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    I disagreed with the timing of the last one. Just a bit too late to make a real difference. The first 2 I think were at minute 73 & 77. Maybe a tad late, but with the way the team was in control, it is forgivable in my book.
     
  17. aerez

    aerez Member

    Jul 8, 2006
  18. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well having a foreign coach has clearly worked for Peru, Paraguay and Chle so your point is? :)
     
  19. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Nobody was asking for a foreign coach that I know of and who said there is a "dearth of coaching talent?" Argentina has always had loads of coaches
     
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  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #270 pepinointer, Jun 29, 2015
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2015
    In the last world cup for example 3 colombians coaches arrive to the wc. And the colombians national team was a foreigner., yeah for colombia didnt work a local coach for 12 years...and his play improve with a foreigner despite their formers coachs have proved importants succes in other NT and clubs

    I think that the nationalty never have to be the reason of the choice...
     
  21. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I know it matters to a lot of people, but personally I don't care what nationality the coach of Argentina is.
     
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  22. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think the point is that some people (usually those outside of Argentina have always thought the seleccion needs a foreign coach as the trainer, that somehow there are no decent coaches to be had from Argentina). Looking at the Copa and the performances of Colombia and Chile at the last WC under Sampaoli and Pekerman, Simeone in Europe blows that out of the water.
     
  23. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    In my opinion Pekerman is at very best an average manager of teams that consist of adults, and that is being generous to him.
     
  24. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Guys, sandro ricci (el referu polemico de URU-CHI) to referee the game tomorrow!
     
  25. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    WC06? WC14?
     

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