Creo que el equipo ideal para la Copa America seria --------------Calero-------------- Zapata---Rivas---Perea-----Yepes ---------------------------------- Soto----------Viafara-------Aguilar -----------Chitiva----------------- ----Falcao--------Renteria/Angel--
Re: Copa America 2007 yepes esta quemado, no esta pasando por buen momento.me gusta mas mosquera de central i poner a perea como lateral....viafara otro que esta bien quemado i nunca a jugado bien en la selection mejor ferreira o escobar del tolima..me gusta mas moreno en la posision de chitiva,chitiva me gusta como suplente....aguilar es un buen jugador pero no se me gusta mas guarin....a angel le pesa mucha la camiseta de la selection i tanpaco esta pasando por un buen momento me gustan mas perea,pino,quintero,rey etc... lo demas de tu alinacion me gusta mucho
Re: Copa America 2007 Yepes si muy dudoso pero para central no confio en Mosquera. Perea a jugado de central en Atletico de Madrid. Si lo mandaria para lateral pero si Ivan Cordoba regresa y esta en buen forma, pero yo creo que el dio lo que tenia que dar. Viafara merece el puesto de seis y creo que hace el trabajo bien. Los puestos que si estan para decidersen son los de Chitiva, Aguilar, lateral y de segundo delantero. Falcao jugo muy bien contra Boca y como que esta ganando su confianca. Si, Angel es muy, muy, muy dudoso en la seleccion. Lo veo jugar contra los ingleses y juega bien, pero en la seleccion es otro Aristizabal. Algien tiene que ganarse ese puesto, per Pino no esta ni cerca de ganar ese puesto. Si hace algo el proximo ano en el extranjero si pero hasta que no haga nada en nivel de club, yo no lo llamaria.
Re: Copa America 2007 se les olvida G Rey y el carrilero defensor zurdo: Velez (hablan muy bien de el en pereira y el pais paisa)
Re: Copa America 2007 En el partido contra Uruguay se va ver si Rey se puede ganar el puesto. No estoy nada de acuerdo con Rodallega. Nada. Y si como dige, el puesto de lateral esta abierto para cualquiera.
Re: Copa America 2007 Bienvenido Matecaña, ¿sos de Pereira? entonces somos vecinos, porque soy de Armenia. A ver como les va a los equipos de la tierrita este semestre. Bienvenido otra vez.
Re: Copa America 2007 Gracias. Estoy viviendo en la USA pero trato de segir a mi Pereirita lo mas possible. Que Viva Pereira*********!!!!
Re: Copa America 2007 si yo tambien vivo aca en los USAs, hace poco estuve por Colombia, un calor ni el hp.
Yepes has plenty of time to find his form between now and the Copa. There are bigger question marks than that for me (will Falcao play like himself, will Renteria or Perea start to feature in Europe, will Aguilar play well in Spain, etc.) For now, I think my team would be: -------------Calero--------------- ----Zapata----Yepes-----Perea--- Guarin-------Valencia--------Marin ----Ferreira----------------Chitiva --Rey/Falcao-----Perea/Renteria-- I am still convinced that if you have the riches at centreback that we do you should take advantage of that and play 3-5-2. The big question mark for me is in the centre of the field. Valencia and Aguilar are very promising but they each need to prove themselves abroad here to make the side going forward. I put Valencia down solely at our loyalty to America de Cali.... Upfront I am agnostic amongst these four, whoever is in best form, but all four are great players in my opinion.
I think Falcao will be ok. But you can't leave Soto out of the team. I hope he gets to play in Germany and I think he is a lock to start on the team. And if we play 3 in the back, we would get killed by Argentina who plays 3 up top, Brasil plays 3 up top, Uruguay and Chile. I like Zapata, Yepes, and Perea alot but against Tevez, Messi, and Aimar or D'Alessandro or Adriano, Robinho and Dinho/Kaka. Nobody would get away with 3 in the back with those guys. And Uruguay's forwards and Chile's forwards are too good. I can't wait until la Copa!!!! And with the US and Mexico coming too, will be a good game every day.
esta seria la mia ----------------------calero rivas--------perea------mosquera---------zapata ----------------guarin soto-------------ferreira------------escobar ----------------t moreno falcao-------------------------renteria
I like your squad but one minor change: You can't have Yepes playing "libero" cuando tienes a Perea que es MUCH MAS RAPIDO y ademas Zapata y hasta rivas que son muy rapidos...
Lo digo de una vez. Rivas NO ESTA PARA la sele. Es nu jugador rapido y fuerte en la area pero no tiene buena tecnica y lo peor es que es MUY brusco. Se que esta de moda, pero cuando empiezen los partidos y empieze a cometir errores y sumar tarjetas lo veran por lo que es. Lo veo cometiendo mas de una falta-penal en una eliminatoria. Igualito a Arley Dinas...sebo tambien pero fuerte. Defensores sobran: Perea Zapata Mosquera Yepes IRC Casierra Zuniga De la Cuesta Gonzo Yimmy Bermudez..(just kidding)
pienso lo Mismo de rivas cuando los arbitros lo vean com un hack y lo tarjeten seguido se le acaba la luna de miel con el Kaiser - mas le vale que juege futbol y se olvide de su gran fuerza para salir de titular en river cuendo le cueste partidos a River...aca vendran a hecharle tierra al Central fornido
A mi parecer no hay laterales LATERALES de verdad, perea jugo de lateral en boca peor en el atletico nunca lo quieren en esa posicion, mosquera rivas yepes zapata es lo mismo nunca los he visto de laterales no me los imagino por ahi....no son laterales netos o me equivoco??? ah pero eso si prefiero al mas lento de toda la zaga colombiana primero q a esa chanda del chiguiro benitez!!! q descache! hay q ver como esta palacios aunque tampoco espero mucho de el.....q laterales se pudo convocar para esta seleccion? o en su defecto cual de los convocados puede verdaderamente cumplir como lateral? aparte de casierra y velez por supuesto
hay que entender....lateral, lateral como se juega en Brazil NUNCA lo seremos. Prefiero tener una linea super defensiva de 4 o 3 atras y no tratar de buscar al Roberto Carlos de Colombia por que NO EXISTEN. A Colombia le sirve mejor jugar al contragolpe con una linea de 2 or 3 "doble 5" defensivo/ofensivos al tipo Guarin/JC Escobar/Aguilar.
I don't see it that way. 3-5-2's can quickly become 5-3-2's if needed and the scheme can be used to shut people down effectively - this is EXACTLY what Felipao did with Brasil back in 2002 and Bielsa did with Argentina in 2002 as well.
but Ryu, it's not Colombia's strength - that's good for transitional teams that can play that system. We need to play a 4-4-2, it's not the best to watch but it does solidify the back. We have had the #1 defense for the last 8 years and the top 3 for the last 12 years. You always build a team from the back. We need to score on the counterattacking chances we get.
They should pick some of the players that won the sub 20 championship a couple of years ago, i.e. Toja, Guarin, Zapata, DEFINETLEY Falcao, Marrugo but not Rodallega cause he sold out man!! Its important that they take quite a young side for future prospects however have a mix of some of the established players with the young ones so they can look up to them. Pino should be included in the squad too!!
I agree with you about Pino. I think if u take that pressure of punting that team on his back, he would perform better. i believe If you surround him with better and veterans players we could see his true potential
con lo que tenemos en el 2007 es mas como 3-1-2-1-3 3 defienden (perea - Irc- Yepez) 1 libero (????) 2 recuperan (vargas y viafara) 1 enganche (porque 10 no existen en colombia) ferreira o Soto 3 adelante del enganche (notese que serian LGRey -falcao- tressor) y tressor siempre viene del lado opuesto del enganche (antes era Soto) carrileros por los dos lados, Palacio (ex-junior) aporta experiencia al grp y una pegada tremenda. El otro podria ser mau casierra y su rapidez, pero no se como incorporarlos a la titular hasta que no se vean las intenciones del Murcielago pinto. ese man facil juega con esquemas de 5 atras, y los extremos con 'salida' (el no les dece carrileros, para que no lo confundan con Mamatura o bolillo) my 2 cts
We need to evolve and recognize our strengths. 4-4-2 isn't a strength, its a strategy and our inability to adapt depending on opposition and our players aptitudes is a liability - one that we should look to correct. I think, in fact that we should be able to do so and I'd disagree that THESE PLAYERS play better in 4-4-2. Under Chiqui Garcia we played a lot of 3-5-2, people moaned that we were too defensive but we were on path to qualify. Maturana came in, brought with him our traditional 4-4-2 and we still haven't recovered. Depending how you play, 3-5-2 can be a very conservative formation. Considering Pinto's style of grind you out play (from what I've heard on here) that makes a lot of sense for him, and it makes the most efficient use of our talent.
the 3-5-2 didn't really work with el "Cheque" Garcia..although I know we were in the WC at the moment with his results. Colombia is not a running/fighting team.... leave that to the Uruguayos. You can mold it however you want but we are not a team comfortable with that formation/strategy. Unless you can ALWAYS guarantee the same 3 play at the back in Copa America/WCQ etc., then it is a liability IMO. But with injuries, yellow/red cards, etc., that wont be the case..
We had a good record with the 3-5-2, people crucified Garcia for playing ugly, but we got results and took advantage of the fact that we had good centrebacks. Arguably, we have an even better crop of centrebacks now. I don't know what you mean by a running/fighting team, but I pray that Pinto makes our team sweat and fight a whole lot more than it has in the past. Colombia's 4-4-2 worked for a period in time with a specific set of players and even then when we played against European sides our inability to play with width and the rigidity of the back four was constantly exposed by their counterattacks. Its just my opinion, but I feel we need to evolve. We have players all over the world now that don't play in the Maturana 4-4-2, and they won't necessarily thrive in it. I think the 3-5-2 can work because it would make the best use of our talent and that it has in fact produced results before both for us and for some of our rivals in the past. Even assuming that you're hypothesis is right and that we hadn't succeeded in the past with it - why would that mean that now with a different coach, different players and a different competitive environment it'd necessarily be doomed to fail in the future? I can't agree with the assertion that Colombia is incapable of evolving its approach and that we are doomed to use the same tactics (that have failed in the past too) ad infinitum into the future even in the face of a changing landscape and human resources.