Copa America 2007 draw

Brazil - Mexico - Ecuador - Chile

Can't argue with you there.

 

what a joke.

 

danilo - please PM me with a way to contact you. I need to ask you a soccer question. Thanks.

 

A friend of mine made this calendar

 

Are the game times out yet?

 

oh man thats really ********ed up, maturin has only 2 games!!!

well i think i'll only go to the brazil games in maturin and barcelona, and the quarter-final game in maturin, i'll try to go to the final but i'm not so sure about it

 

That schedule doesn't seem right. If I'm reading it correctly, the 1st place team in Group B has to play a 2nd place team from Group C, bit the 2nd place team in Group B gets to play a 3rd place team?

 

GROUP A
W L T GF GA Pts
Bolivia 0 0 0 0 0 0
Peru 0 0 0 0 0 0
Uruguay 0 0 0 0 0 0
Venezuela 0 0 0 0 0 0
Tuesday, June 26
At Merida, Venezuela
Uruguay vs. Peru
At San Cristobal, Venezuela
Bolivia at Venezuela
Saturday, June 30
At San Cristobal, Venezuela
Bolivia vs. Uruguay
Peru at Venezuela
Tuesday, July 3
At Merida, Venezuela
Peru vs. Bolivia
Uruguay at Venezuela
___
GROUP B
W L T GF GA Pts
Brazil 0 0 0 0 0 0
Chile 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ecuador 0 0 0 0 0 0
Mexico 0 0 0 0 0 0
Wednesday, June 27
At Puerto Ordaz, Venezuela
Ecuador vs. Chile
Brazil vs. Mexico
Sunday, July 1
At Maturin, Venezuela
Mexico vs. Ecuador
Brazil vs. Chile
Wednesday, July 4
At Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela
Mexico vs. Chile
Brazil vs. Ecuador
___
GROUP C
W L T GF GA Pts
Argentina 0 0 0 0 0 0
Colombia 0 0 0 0 0 0
Paraguay 0 0 0 0 0 0
United States 0 0 0 0 0 0
Thursday, June 28
At Maracaibo, Venezuela
Paraguay vs. Colombia
Argentina vs. United States
Monday, July 2
At Barinas, Venezuela
United States vs. Paraguay
At Maracaibo, Venezuela
Argentina vs. Colombia
Thursday, July 5
At Barquisimeto, Venezuela
United States vs. Colombia
Argentina vs. Paraguay
___
QUARTERFINALS
Saturday, July 7
Quarterfinal 1
At Maracaibo, Venezuela
Best third-place finisher vs. Group B second place
Quarterfinal Two
At San Cristobal, Venezuela
Group A winner vs. second-best third-place finisher
Sunday, July 8
Quarterfinal Three
At Maturin, Venezuela
Group B winner vs. Group C second place
Quarterfinal 4
At Barquisimeto, Venezuela
Group C winner vs. Group A second place
___
SEMIFINALS
Tuesday, July 10
At Caracas, Venezuela
Quarterfinal One winner vs. Quarterfinal Two winner
Wednesday, July 11
At Puerto Ordaz, Venezuela
Quarterfinal Three winner vs. Quarterfinal Four winner
___
THIRD PLACE
Saturday, July 14
At Caracas, Venezuela
Semifinal losers
___
CHAMPIONSHIP
Sunday, July 15
At Maracaibo, Venezuela
Semifinal winners

 

group c is the toughest of all

el grupo c es el mas dificil

 

bullshit, the 3 weakest teams in the same group......
Well, we all knew Venezuela was gonna get Bolivia and Peru. Its pretty obvious that Uruguay will be first in that group...

 

Does seem odd...if you are in Group C, isn't better to finish third than second? Forget Brazil, just think about it without specific teams. Conceptually, the third place team avoids playing a Group winner, while second place team plays a Group winner.

Seems flawed, but maybe there is no other way with this type of 12 team set up.

 

and What about Chile? First one in group too ?

 

My friend. They hate you everywhere, but that doesn;t mean they will be just looking forward to play you just so they can insult you or for political meanings. After all you are a pretty boring team to play against. Thinking about playing argentina, brazil, colombia, or uruguay makes it a lot more interesting. That is what I mean by you giving yourself more importance or relevance as a political issue than a soccer team. But either way, its a tendency for you guys to overestimate yourself, it was the same in the WC threads.Now, by no means, this means you guys have a crappy team, you dont, it just means, at least in your particular case, you are looking at things from the wrong point of view.

 

Exactly. Two of the first place teams should play the two 3rd place teams. The last 1st place team plays a 2nd place team. The remaining two 2nd place teams play each other. Assuming Conmebol wants to give every advantage to Venezuela but still appear a tiny bit fair, you'd go with something like this:

(1) 1st A - weaker 3rd
(2) 1st B - stronger 3rd
(3) 1st C - 2nd B
(4) 2nd A - 2nd C

Then the next round should be game (1) winner versus game (3) and game (2) versus game (4) [in order to try to minimize repeated opponents].

 

Are you sure they hate me everwhere? Even when my father was born in Peru and my mother is Cuban. I'm I really that terrible of a person for being born in the good 'ol USA? You do realize that almost 40% of Americans are descendant from spanish countires and within 100 years spanish people will be a majority in the US. Why do you hate your own people so much? Grow up...

 

I knew Paraguay was gonna get the Group of Death

How did i know that Bolivia and Peru where gonna end up in Venezuela's group?

Either way i think Paraguay can still get out of that group but its gonna be tough

 

Hahaha, what a joke Conmebol is, why don't they just skip the 'sorteo' show and arrange the groups from the start and in that way save the ridiculous montage...geez, have some self respect.

 

Is Group A the "Teams that don't play World Cups" group?

 

hahaha...nice "draw" conmebol...very unexpected and very random

 

haha keep thinking like that.. thats exactly how we want you to think