Copa América de 2021

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Century's Best, Jun 8, 2021.

  1. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    We should have been able to counter Peru easily with the changes they made at HT. Not a good 2nd half.
     
  2. Estuardo A. Lopez

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Watching this game I got a strange but familiar feeling remembering that quarterfinal in South Africa 2010 between Brazil and the Netherlands.
    Great first half by Brazil, scary second half.
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I've said this before ... this 4-2-4 is not good IMO. Guess it worked today in 1st half because Peru played afraid. When they decided to attack in 2nd half with a different formation, they caused us trouble. Paqueta did well in offense and I think Tite will try to keep playing him ... but he is clumsy on defense.
     
  4. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Just realized Paqueta scored the winners and only goals in QF and SF :ROFLMAO:
     
  5. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think the line-up Saturday will be:

    Ederson;
    Danilo, Thiago SIlva, Marquinhos, Alex Sandro;
    Casemiro, Fred, Paquetá;
    Gabriel Jesus, Neymar, Richarlison

    The only real question mark is Alex Sandro. He has been out injured for 2 games in a row and might not be available.

    If he is, he offers more to support the midfield and defense and can still provide offense, just not as wide as Lodi.

    For all of Peru's pressure in the second half it wasn't very threatening. The most frustrating things for me were:

    Brazil never pushed back and never showed anything they did in the first half
    About 3 times players wanted PKs but instead of trying to make the PK happen and force the ref to call it, they just expected the ref to give it immediately. If you want to "cavar" a penalty you need to do the work.
     
  6. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Brazil's first half was likely the best of the tournament, but the second half was probably the worst. It's perhaps a good thing Peru threatened in the second, to remind the players to be alert. Colombia and Argentina are hungry teams who will give it their all not only tomorrow but in a final match.

    There was a PK as Celito said, and the referee was too far to see that the Peruvian shoved Richarlison.

    In any case - Brazil is in its second consecutive final, and deservingly so.
     
  7. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Peruvians are complaining about the ref and how he acted towards the players, adding that to the missed penalty and claiming it means the ref was clearly favoring Brazil... only Neymar also complained about how the ref addressed players and how arrogant he was.

    Frankly my reaction to Neymar's complaint was "good, the ref should be focused on calls and not listening to players" but if both teams are complaining this much I'm curious as to what specifically he said to them to warrant this.
     
  8. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Right. In Neymar's interview he said he was disrespectful to both teams not only him or Brazil. I didn't see much wrong with the ref in terms of calls other than some missed fouls. If anything, we could have had a PK .. I mean, basically the same thing was a PK for the Swiss vs Italy the other day.
     
  9. Estuardo A. Lopez

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The Peruvians are sounding very bitter. They seem to always complain about the ref but now some of the comments are bordering on racist.
    Peruvians being racist? I mean, can you imagine?
     
  10. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Meant to say Belgium vs Italy.
     
  11. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  12. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yet another early goal from Argentina. Was a pretty good goal.

    1 x 0
     
  13. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    Messi has been the player of the tournament.
     
  14. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not good with open play goals, but 2 FK goals and I think that's 5 assists now.
     
  15. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Argentina getting beat up out there. Messi with a bloody ankle. They may get to the final in pieces at this rate.
     
  16. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Colombia tie it up. That's some sick balance to take that shot .
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Wow !!! That fuk up is just so quintessential Argentinean :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  18. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Clear tug there on Otamendi off the corner. Probably should be a PK. Although ball wasn't getting to him. Argies will be pissed for sure.
     
  19. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    VAR is so inconsistent.

    This has been a war. So many cards.

    Colombia has been the better team.
     
  20. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Argentina it is. Gonna be tough as they look better than yesteryears. Still rather face them than Colombia to be honest .. who can get too physical. But Argentina are definitely a good technical team and that will be a challenge. In 2019 they gave us plenty of trouble in the SF.
     
  21. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Argentina scored, withdrew into defense, Colombia equalized. The former is fortunate penalty kicks went its way.
     
  22. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    It will not be any less competitive and heated than in 2019.
     
  23. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
  24. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I really rather play Argentina ... if you go behind Colombia they are tough to break through and if you go ahead they very chippy and physical.
     
  25. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I get an 07 dunga team feel with this Argentina team. Unimpressive, grinding out wins.

    On the flip side, I’m unimpressed with us as well so, 50/50 final IMO.
     

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