Cooper offer rejected

That's terrible news. Hopefully another team will be able to work a deal. Dallas will likely be awful next year, and he needs to get somewhere decent to prepare for SA2010.

Here's the other Coop thread https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=714885&highlight=cooper

 

For the reference, Eintracht loaned a 21 YO Cameroonese youth international Leony Kweuke from a Slovak club Dunajská Streda (11 goals in 16 matches).

The Slovak club is managed by a veteran German coach (Taylor Twellman's favorite) Werner Lorant.

Eintracht really needed a back-up or a temp until its captain (and probably its top player) Greek international Ioannis Amanatidis returns from injury in February-March'09.

$4M was a tad steep for that need.

 

I find the disconnect amusing between Dallas/MLS being only willing to pay him around $400k for I'd assume 3 or 4 years which would be a future value of $1.2 -$1.6 million (although with interest rates these days that's a present value of like what, $1.1 - $1.5 million), but they think he's worth $4 million on the transfer market.

 

how is that different from paying Donovan $1M and asking for $10M on a transfer. It is fairly normal.

 

it sucks when MLS grows, and refuses to sell their valuable assets.

 

I get what you're saying here, Bruce, and you won't find much of an argument from me. But if you (a) refuse to sell your assets, AND simultaneously (b) refuse to pay them yourself what they think they're worth, it leads to (c) very unhappy players and potentially nasty labor relations.

THIS is what MLS cannot particularly afford, and what they need to somehow address. You want to keep your players relatively happy somehow if you want to continue the growth pattern.

 

MLS just seems out to get Kenny. Perhaps they think there are other suitors waiting in the wings who will pay for him. We'll see-- it's a long way to the end of Januaruy.

 

Actually, he got a very good argument from you.

 

Short term thinking. If I am an agent or a parent of a young professional bound player, Kenny Cooper is an educational case, and MLS becomes a last resort.

 

Yeah the MLS refusing to sell their players or asking for unreasonable prices only discourages people from signing a contract with the league.

 

$4m sounds ok, but the problem is that MLS strikers are still a question mark as to how long it takes them to adjust and start scoring goals. They should be looking at a loan deal with a buy out clause, maybe a 50% agreement, cause at this time it might be hard to find a team to put down that amount of money this transfer window.

MLS needs to sort out its transfer policy, NOW, Cooper for $4m, Parkhurst and Marshall for free? Garber and team GMs need to go to a Euro Soccer Business School and learn a few tricks here and there cause these annual Bosman-transfer bonanza are hurting the league more than Jozy and Adu going abroad so early.

 

$4 million is by no means unreasonable. This was a legitimate MVP candidate, top XI player, and the 2nd best forward in the league.

Maurice Edu left for $5 million, and Kenny Cooper is a better player.

As for asking for a transfer fee that doesn't coordinate with salary, welcome to football. It never coordinates with salary. I mean David Villa's asking price is something like 100 million Euros, and I gaurun-f'ing-tee you his contract isn't worth 100 million Euros.

So one club dropped out of the race. That's no reason to get your panties in a hunch, even for the Yanks Abroad crowd. A club will come and pick him up.

 

I agree. For Cooper, it's like once you get in, you won't get out. $4 Million for Cooper.. Come on..
I think Dempsey's transfer fee was something like 3 mil when the global economy was doing ok. Where does Dallas get off thinking they can fetch 4 mil for Cooper in a poor global economy like this? Why would any club put up that kind of money for a player that is largely unproven in Europe? Dempsey at least had more national caps than Cooper.

Cooper is a great talent and derves to be abroad but not at that price. Does anyone know when Cooper's contract expires with FC DALLAS?

 

Mo Edu may be the reason why no one is going to pay MLS $5M for a long time.

A club can pick it him for nearly free, if Kenny is really willing to put screws to MLS.

Does the name Jonás Manuel Gutiérrez ring a bell?

 

The Rangers must have been out of their mind to pay that much. In my opinion, he is worth about 2 mil at most. However, he can't even get on the field for the Rangers so he could end up being equal to $5 mil in the trash for the Rangers. I think Edu should have ended up at Denmark ..

 

I think Walter Smith was taken advantage by another former Ranger.

PS. Kenny is signed for 2 more years, I believe.

2009, plus an option.

BTW, it'd have be easier to judge his value, had he suited up for the Nats this summer.

 

I agree. Is Kenny like the smart kid in the class that just finds the pace not that challenging? Will he start to become bored and not try as hard anymore? Will he give up on his own development?

I am not sure that looking for 4 mil is a good approach for FC DALLAS.

 

For all the hoopla around the Webster ruling, there have been only a handful of players that have used it. So far its been 90% speculation of what "could" happen.

This article: speculated that the ruling could allow Berbatov to leave Spurs for as little as 1.5 million pounds. Instead he moved for 30 million pounds or so.

It also doesn't help that FIFA themselves are against the ruling.

Let me put it this way, I'll eat my shoe if Cooper leaves on a Webster ruling ... or at least the digital version of it.

If Cooper leaves on a Webster or for peanut-type transfer (say less than a million) that Webster transfer would result in, I will create and use a new screenname that says "SFSismyhero" for one month.

But if Cooper leaves on a transfer for more than say $3 million, then you have to do the same with the screenname "DirtyJerzeyismyhero" for the same time period.

So how bout it? You game?

 

How much is MLS going to grow when they can't come up with a new CBA because the way they treat their players? My guess is not that much. THis is not even taking into consideration the fact that any young player with half a business brain in his head is going to take the European money over the peanuts that they are offered in MLS. At least the stadiums have full concert schedules for the summer, right? MLS is killing themselves with their isolationist transfer policies. Sorry for the off-topic, but I am tired of hearing this lame argument that illustrates how short sighted and naive some people are when it comes to the business of an international sport like this.

 

I don't get the gloss over Maurice Edu. He's a third year pro in his first year in Europe playing for a powerful side. Why would he see major minutes? Altidore is getting minutes but Villareal has injury issues at the forward position. And Cooper isn't a better player.

 

I don't get the gloss over Maurice Edu. He's a 2nd year pro in his first year in Europe playing for a powerful side. Why would he see major minutes? Altidore is getting minutes but Villareal has injury issues at the forward position. And Cooper isn't a better player.

 

It does actually and if Kenny can do the same more power to him.

 

Not to mention:

(d) potentially lower the morale of quality players, and although I don't want to use the term "self-esteem", we can only hope the lower morale doesn't translate into lessened on-field results.

MLS should have taken a lower offer -- and if it was $3 million instead of $4 million, then so be it. Beats the hell out of seeing him go on a free after 2009, or whenever the contract is up.

And the Bundesliga would have been a good place for Kenny to train and get some games.