CONMEBOL club WoSo

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  1. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    When a national gov't imposes night curfew in its capital city, then it is clear that any sports/entertainment event must be canceled.
    Men's first division games have stopped since September 30th. Last cup game was on Oct 2nd.

    Conmebol must proceed and let each club return home. It would be a farce to celebrate a sports tournament during the current Ecuadorian crisis.
     
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  2. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  3. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Ecudorian goverrnment with help from UN made a deal with protesters to end the riots.
    CONMEBOL gave notice that the tournament will restart today.
    [​IMG]
     
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  4. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    New schedule
    [​IMG]
     
  5. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Tuesday games:
    (A) Atletico Huila 3-0 Cerro Porteno
    (A) Penarol 2-2 Colo-Colo
    (B) Deportivo Cuenca 5-1 Mundo Futuro
    (B) Estudiantes de Caracas 1-4 Ferroviaria
    Huila, Cuenca, and Ferroviaria are through to the QFs. Cerro Porteno can advance next week with a win; Colo-Colo and Penarol both need a win and hope the opposite game goes their way

    Today's games:
    (C) Corinthians 3-1 America
    (C) Nanas in progress Libertad/Limpeno
    (D) Santiago Morning 5-0 Municipalidad de Majes
    (D) UAI Urquiza in progress Independiente Medellin/Formas Intimas
    From what I can tell, the in-progress (C) game is currently scoreless, while IM/FI has score on UAIU in (D). If those results hold, Corinthians and IM/FI would qualify for the QFs.
     
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  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    The results have *not* held! X-D
    Nanas is now down by 3, while UAIU has just scored a go-ahead goal after getting an equalizer earlier. Still time to play in both, though.
     
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  7. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Okay, now the matches are final. This means, surprisingly, that between (C) and (D) there are *no* teams yet qualified to the QFs, and only one team is eliminated. That said, the only maybe surprising result so far is America beating Libertad/Limpeno - which I guess isn't so surprising, especially since I said earlier that the Colombian teams had the potential to make (C) and (D) interesting. But otherwise the results have all been as expected in those groups.

    Group (B) has definitely gone essentially as I thought being the Group of Life, with Ferroviaria running away with the group and one of the other three getting the opportunity to advance. I didn't favor any of those three teams, but maybe I should have considered "home field advantage" and Deportivo Cuenca has beaten both of the other two minnows.

    Group (A) is quite interesting as my predicted Group of Death, with no teams yet eliminated and only one game so far decided by more than one goal.
     
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  8. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Libertadores, the 2nd games:

    Group A
    Atlético Huila [​IMG] 3–0 [​IMG] Cerro Porteño
    Arbeláez 45+4', Romero 49', 61'
    Highlights video / Full match*

    Peñarol [​IMG] 2–2 [​IMG] Colo-Colo
    Viana 69', 77' - Olave 54', Hidalgo 84'p
    Highlights video / Full match*
    * (full videos not available in Brazil, Chile or Uruguay)

    Some problems in that game - and 3 red cards


    Group B
    Deportivo Cuenca [​IMG] 5–1 [​IMG] Mundo Futuro
    Lattanzio 6', 90', Gracia 76', Charcopa 84', Riera 90+4' - Morón 66'
    Highlights video, Libertadores Twitter


    Estudiantes de Caracas [​IMG] 1–4 [​IMG] Ferroviária
    Lizcano 88' - Nathane 53', 87', Aline Milene 78', Luana Sartório 90+3'
    Highlights video, Youtube

    Today in fact - Group A/B have their final games on Friday night. I'll post it if there's a live stream.
     
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  9. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    The 2nd games in the round robin:

    Group C
    Ñañas [​IMG] 0–3 [​IMG] Libertad/Limpeño
    Peña 37', 43' - Garay López 52'p
    Highlights, Libertadores Twitter

    Corinthians [​IMG]
    3–1 [​IMG] América
    Victória Albuquerque 32', Millene 46', 56' - Usme 40'p​

    Melhores Momentos | Corinthians 3-1 América de Cali | Libertadores Feminina 2019
    - www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxO0UGLaPKk
    [​IMG]


    ...oh, that was a terrible dive.


    Group D
    Santiago Morning [​IMG] 5–0 [​IMG] Municipalidad de Majes
    Rojas 17', 60', 68', Pardo 25', Roa 65'
    Highlights video / Full match*

    UAI Urquiza [​IMG] 2–1 [​IMG] Independiente Medellín
    Mesa 45+1', Larroquette 61' - Aguirre 10'
    Highlights video / Full match*
    * (not BRZ/CHL/URU)

    Santiago Morning and UAI lead (4pts), Medellín (3pts) will play Santiago on Saturday in the decider.
     
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  10. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  11. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I'm glad the next edition of the CLF will be in Chile... It seems like the glory days for Colo-Colo are over*, and I'd hate for their swan song to have been cut off by placement in the Group of Death.

    *It could be that 2019 was simply a "down" year for them, too, and that they'd still be likely to qualify directly as one of Chile's top 2 teams in a return to form next year. Unfortunately, I have a somewhat cynical view of WoSo in non-Western countries in that I feel like the men's organizations that often support women's team will ride a high but then drop support when trouble shows up.
     
  12. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Yeah, it sucks when that happens.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/women/4287277.stm
    https://www.npr.org/2012/01/31/146159655/womens-pro-soccer-cancels-2012-season
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...t-as-fai-respond-with-statement-35592523.html

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/324984/erceg-to-stand-down-from-football-ferns (I know, I know, but we are still 'Western' whether we like it or not)

    Libertadores Group B is over – with a win for the home nation Ecuador's champions over Brazil's champions.

    Cuenca's late winning goal by their phenomenal high-scorer Madelin Riera:

    Ferroviária [​IMG] 1–2 [​IMG] Deportivo Cuenca
    Aline Milene 80' - Gracia 31', Riera 88'​

    Melhores Momentos | Ferroviária 1-2 Deportivo Cuenca | Libertadores Feminina 2019
    - www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFb1pLBKdwU
    [​IMG]


    Estudiantes de Caracas [​IMG] 2–0 [​IMG] Mundo Futuro
    D. Rodríguez 6', Flórez 32'
    Highlights video*

    Group B table Cuenca 9pts (Q), Ferroviária 6 (Q), Estudiantes 3, Futuro 0
     
  13. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that Western WoSo was better-run or more stable. They often aren't - but the symptoms are different. And I should have referred to is as countries where WoSo is less (or more) established. Those links don't really capture what I was trying to get at - in those links, the womens' teams (lack of) support (whether an NT, an independent club, or one associated with a men's club) is largely irrespective of on-field performance. I had just meant to point out a pattern I'd noticed in countries where WoSo is less established (where independent club teams are nearly unheard-of) that a winning WoSo club often gets modest support as long as they're on top, but if they have an "off" season or two, they never recover from it. (Or, if they do, it takes a long time.) Certainly not a hard rule, but it's more common than in places where WoSo has started to grow its own roots.
     
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  14. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    #214 sbahnhof, Oct 20, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2019
    Oh yeah, I get what you mean, I was just being, uh, "smart". :cautious: I really hope Colo-Colo will keep supporting the women's team – for one thing, they have a friendly match soon in Rapa Nui (Easter Island), which is pretty cool.

    In Saturday's big Libertadores games in the non-east of Ecuador, the quarterfinalists were confirmed.

    The placings in Group C swung wildly, with an understrength Corinthians down 2-0 at half-time, in danger of exiting the tournament. They survived, but with a red card for midfielder Gabi Zanotti. América took 2nd place.

    Libertad/Limpeño [​IMG] 2–2 [​IMG] Corinthians
    Peña 19', Garay López 45+3' - Victória Albuquerque 61', Katiuscia 73'

    Highlights: youtu.be/Z8GBrxVf7dE
    [​IMG]


    Ñañas [​IMG] 1–6 [​IMG] América de Cali
    Corozo 50' - Robledo 5', 69', 85', Taborda 75', R. Caicedo 82', Usme 90+1'
    Highlights video, Youtube

    Group D
    UAI Urquiza [​IMG] 6–0 [​IMG] Municipalidad de Majes
    Larroquette 16', 33', 53', 64', Ugarte 55', Delgado 77'
    Highlights video, Youtube

    Independiente Medellín [​IMG] 1–1 [​IMG] Santiago Morning
    Ospina 21' - Borgella 18'p
    Highlights video / Full match*
    Table: UAI 7pts (Q), Santiago Morning 5pts (Q), Medellín 4, Majes 0
     
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  15. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Wow, hadn't any idea Rapa Nui had a women's football team. :geek:

    How many people are there on the island? And how many of the locals descend from the original inhabitants? I am sorry, but my knowledge probably dates back to the '90s' film "Rapa Nui" at best. :p

    I have visions of a football pitch surrounded by Moai (as the supporters). :laugh:
     
  16. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Dunno much about it, but the answers in order: Not many; Not many; Yes there was a moai statue at Rapa Nui men's game against Colo Colo (either real or replica). But this is all pre-empting the Easter Island thread next year.

    With the upheavals in Quito, we didn't mention the altitude: at 2850m, it's the world's highest capital city, hence the extra training that teams did. Next year Conmebol should consider holding the event somewhere very low to balance things out, maybe on some kind of island.


    The Libertadores quarter-finals start in a few hours, streaming live

    Atlético Huila [​IMG] CF1 [​IMG] Ferroviária (17:00 ECT / 22:00 GMT)

    Deportivo Cuenca [​IMG]
    CF2 [​IMG] Cerro Porteño (19:30 ECT / 00:30 GMT)

    I worked out what these videos were missing - every time a goal is scored...



     
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  17. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
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  18. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    ^ Hmm, you might need the Cantor goal shout a few times in that game. Also, Huila's coach Albeiro Erazo appears to have a club logo tattooed on the back of his head today [​IMG]

    Quarter-final 2
    Deportivo Cuenca [​IMG] CF2 [​IMG] Cerro Porteño

    EN VIVO | CONMEBOL Libertadores Femenina
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dowfv5TH1a0
    [​IMG]

    * (not available in Brazil, Chile or Uruguay)​

    Will Ecuador have a semi-finalist? It's only happened once before, S.D. Quito in 2010.

    Match preview
    - elcomercio.com/deportes/deportivo-cuenca-cerro-porteno-ibertadores.html, Autotranslated (Archived)
     
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  19. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  20. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Libertadores Quarter-finals highlights

    Well, my nerves are fried. See you in a day or two!

    QF1: Atlético Huila [​IMG] 2–3 [​IMG] Ferroviária
    Romero 24', 57' - Maglia 32', 65', Nathane 48'​

    Ferroviária 3-2 Atlético Huila | Cuartos de Final CONMEBOL Libertadores Femenina - www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZpG1MdSp94
    [​IMG]



    QF2: Deportivo Cuenca [​IMG] 3–3 [​IMG] Cerro Porteño
    Riera 13', 25', 57' - Fretes 32', Agüero 38', Bogarín 83'
    - Cerro Porteño win 4-3 on penalties​

    Deportivo Cuenca 3 (3) - (4) 3 Cerro Porteño (white)
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIRsfQCUxyw
    [​IMG]



    QF3: Corinthians 2–0 Santiago Morning
    Giovanna Crivelari 28', Juliete 46'​

    Melhores Momentos | Corinthians 2-0 Santiago Morning
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjnDxdStg7I
    [​IMG]



    QF4: UAI Urquiza [​IMG] 2–3 [​IMG] América de Cali
    Larroquette 76'p, Bueno 88' - Robledo 61', F. Caicedo 65', Usme 70'​

    UAI Urquiza 2-3 América de Cali
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVZO41Ol3E
    [​IMG]
     
  21. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Love all the relatively close games. Gotta say, part of it is probably a function of the expanded tournament - I personally love the straightforward groups (no "best 2nds" or "best 3rds") and the extra elimination round. I hope fans and administration in CONMEBOL see this and up their support for WoSo!
     
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  22. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Winning a group hasn't been an advantage at these Libertadores - the group winners A, B and D are all out. The top 2 of group C will meet again in a semifinal tomorrow (Friday).

    Now
    MORE STUFF

    Semi-Final 1
    Ferroviária [​IMG] SF1 [​IMG] Cerro Porteño

    EN VIVO | Ferroviária vs. Cerro Porteño | CONMEBOL Libertadores Femenina

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ybX_lvpHj8
    [​IMG]

    Previews:
    Corinthians and Ferroviária are both doubtless hoping for an all-Brazilian final, which would be those clubs' 54th meeting of the season. Paraguay's Cerro haven't gone beyond the semi-finals before...
     
  23. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
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    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa

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