News: CONMEBOL announces an expanded 2016 Copa America in the USA!

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by Unak78, Oct 25, 2012.

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How successful will this tournament be?

  1. A smash! CONMEBOL decides to repeat it in 2020 and it becomes our hemisphere's Euro.

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  2. A financial and commercial success, but a one-time thing

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  3. A financial success highlighted by B-teams and sub-par football, but the casual fan doesn't notice.

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  4. A financial success and a commercial failure highlighted by B-teams and subpar football.

    20.0%
  5. A financial/commercial failure and & the worst idea since Red Lobster's "Endless Crab" promotion.

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  1. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/...n-american-cup-in-2016.1945030/#post-26664196

    To continue off of the old thread, it's official.

    It's actually an expanded Copa America, but it will be in the USA, and it will feature 16 teams. I would be open to this happening every four years and for us to just host a Gold Cup on the off cycles.

    Thoughts? Anyone excited? Do you think that CONMEBOL and CONCACAF find a way to keep this thing going if it's a success??? Could this be our hemisphere's answer to the expanded Euro 2016 in France? Especially with the exposure of having this thing hosted in the US?

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/blog/post/2012/10/24/details-released-2016-copa-america-be-held-usa
     
  2. Ryan.from.NC

    Ryan.from.NC New Member

    May 9, 2012
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man..... If FIFA decides to hold the Euros in July too!! :)o_O CRAZY!!!

    Watch Euros by day then tune into the Super-Copa by night??? Only to have the Olympics in August.

    Best. Summer. Ever.
     
  3. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where's the option for "Financial success, commercially decent, over hyped play that wasn't as bad as the detractors will say, intended one off that will get at least one more shot at some point in the next decade"
     
  4. Mario in SJ

    Mario in SJ Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This has to become an every 4 year tournament. The financial sucess will be unprecedented, outshining the EUROs. Once CONMEBOL experiences the ching-ching hitting their pockets I doubt if they will ever go back. Admitedly subsequent ones may not be US based and thus the economic impact will not be as great.

    I am assuming they will hold these at the same time as the EUROs so all the top players will be available with no problem. Incredibly excited.
     
  5. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    It's hard to think of every eventuality. I'd say that it's the same as the first in result and the way that it will manifest. Those would basically be the cracks that might become more apparent the second time around. It's a good point. Probably should have allowed for the possibility that CONMEBOL may actually have the intention of doing another one without actually setting a solid date for one in the future and that that intent may soften after about a year.
     
  6. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/5/euro-2102-bonanza-for-ratings-and-revenue/?page=all

    Euro 2012 generated around $1.6 billion (compared to the world cup's $3.6 billion for twice as many games) with viewing figures akin to having a superbowl every day for two weeks.

    The TV rights alone went for $1 billion.

    I think a Copa America in the USA will do well, but unless the US public is going to tune in in massive numbers, outshining the Euro would take some doing.
     
  7. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    I imagine that it would, being that it's being played here and the US public always tunes in in massive numbers when the USMNT has a chance to win something of major significance. Look at the Confederations Cup, a tournament which most Americans had probably never even knew existed, yet when the US went to the finals TV numbers spiked massively. That was in South Africa. Imagine what type of publicity a domestic-based tournament with Brazil and Argentina involved along with Mexico might bring. Even Gold Cups draw big numbers. Should the US do well, and that means a QF to SF run, this will be very successful.
     
  8. Zxcv

    Zxcv Member+

    Feb 22, 2012
    CONMEBOL nations take Copa America very seriously. Player availability, even if it was held in January, wouldn't be a problem.
     
  9. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    The only issue is that there will apparently be another Copa America played between WC cycles. So will this one be taken as seriously as the other?
     
  10. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Looks like CONMEBOL is going to have to offer monetary concessions to make this thing happen. Obviously the loss of the second Gold Cup is going to have to be compensated for since CONCACAF heavily relies on this for funding. CONCACAF is probably angling for a sizeable chunk of the pie.

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/soccerusa/id/381?cc=5901
     
  11. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    "Massive numbers" would be every game, not just USA games, pulling maybe 50 million or so in the USA alone.

    The confederations cup final drew less than four million.

    How much does the NFL receive per game, for example? Multiply that figure by 31 games and you'd see what NFL style viewing figures would generate for the tournament.


    It would be good though. I think if I don't get tickets for Euro 2016, I'd give serious thought to coming over for a few games.
     
  12. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    You think so ?

    If "A" teams aren`t playing well, CA acquires a condition of "training camp" for future "A" team squads or a place to try out new tactical systems. Some teams back here, never give so much importance to CA, unless it is played at home. Most clear example is Brazil, whom hardly ever gives such a high importance to CA, and most of the times, the base for their NT, comes from the same Brazil, with very few players coming from abroad. Only the WC and its qualifiers are really meaningful, for everyone.

    If the tournament is to be held in January, most players will not want to come, as in their clubs (specially European based ones), they will be playing final instances of their tournaments, which is when best players are more needed, and therefore for them, it is their biggest shot to get for themselves higher future contracts, fees and prize-money. After all, Top international players or stars, are professional, and what most "moves" them, is "how much" they are going to get for themselves.
     

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