Confederations Cup 2003 Update

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by anderson, Sep 3, 2002.

  1. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haven't seen this posted yet, but please feel free to delete this thread if it's already up somewhere.

    From the 9/2 NYT: All the way at the bottom in the "Corner Kicks" section.

    Seems like the Aussies may have trouble coming up with the cash to run this thing. Also, IIRC, NZ is the Oceania qualifier, so that would include two OFC teams, which may not be good for global interest.

    I think that France as host would allow Italy (UEFA runner-up) in as the UEFA rep., which would make for a more attractive field. Plus, Platini is a valued ally of Sepp.
  2. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They might also give it to France to butter UEFA, who wan't to withdraw after '05...
  3. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Wasn't there a story in the LA Times a while back that pretty much said that FIFA was leaning towards France?
  4. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    I've also seen Four Four Two suggest rather explicitly that it will be France.

    The Magpie
  5. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    One could argue that a France location for the Cup could make it easier for Bruce (or whomever) to convince YA's to play in the tournament.
  6. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    if in france, when will it be held? date wise?
  7. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    sometime in June I think. Dog Days of the MLS and off-season for Europe
  8. Bora Fan

    Bora Fan Member

    Dec 14, 1998
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wouldn't attendance in France bite the big one v. what could be expected in the US?

    That's where FIFA will make it's money - not on the tv rights to tournament.
  9. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    I vote for France :)
  10. NYC

    NYC New Member

    Nov 1, 1999
    Do you honestly see anyone travelling to this? It means nothing.
  11. photar74

    photar74 New Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    West Philly
    If it was held in the USA, would FIFA allow MLS to set up doubleheaders?
  12. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, but FIFA would take all of the revenues. So I don't see why MLS would do it.
  13. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is supposed to be held from June 18 to June 29 next year regardless of where it's held.

    I haven't yet heard the dates of the 2003 Gold Cup, but if Arena takes some of the same players to both, they'll likely miss at least six weekends of MLS play (the Gold Cup takes three weekends to get to the Final/Third Place match and the Confed Cup would start on a Wednesday and go through two weekends, so they'd need to be together the weekend before for practice and/or travel).

    Therefore, I'm guessing we'll have mostly different teams in the two tournaments, with many guys getting a chance to show their stuff as Arena starts contemplating the 2004 qualifiers.
  14. Bill Duggan

    Bill Duggan New Member

    Aug 17, 2002
    Although I would love to see it in the US, France is the better candidate for Fifa and probably our chances. Reyna, Friedel, Sanneh, and other YA's will play in this. Probably a good way to say buh-bye to Reyna (Who likelely will retire from USNT play after this) and we could actualy do something in this.
    Also, it would be a more entertaining tourny if it is in France. Plus the future of the tourny would be saved if UEFA decides to continue.
  15. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reyna has said that he won't play for the Nats for the next two years. If this is true, then Reyna won't pla in this tourney, regardless of location.

    And why is it that the Euros are more likely to play the tourney if it is France, rather than the US? I thought that most of the Euros preferred to spend at least part of their vacation in the US anyway.
  16. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    Ok reality check. Reyna is actually playing his best soccer in his career right now. He is actually GETTING BETTER. He is in great shape and so far this season he looks durable. He is a player that is not reliant on his speed so as long as his ankles and his agility holds up, I think he'll be a damn good C-Mid for us in 4 years. A player of his caliber won't let his skills erode
  17. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    appooOnU: You forgot about CLaudio's Groin. We all hope it's healthy.
  18. JRedknapp11

    JRedknapp11 Red Card

    Dec 5, 2001
    This tournament takes place after the club season...wether it's in France or the US , players abroad from the US will be able to join the national team no matter where this tournament is held.

    As for the final choice it's a win/win for the US. If we lose to France then it looks like we are a lock for the WCC in 05'. Fifa is very interested in wether we can hold another profitable tournament....especially with Fifa/Blatter screaming broke.
  19. Scrandal

    Scrandal Member

    Nov 5, 2001
    Charlotte, NC
    France, why?

    The WC was just in France so why give them another big tourney? The '05 CC will be in Germany so seems really strange that FIFA would have two in Europe in secession.

    The LA Times article on the subject never indicated one way or the other where this tourney would go. And as for 4-4-2 what was their reasoning?

    In my opinion it's either the USA or Australia and with our ability to make it profitable as compared to Australia I think it's a no brainer to have it here on the East Coast. East coast because the West coast will likely host the Gold cup.

    The USSF is selling this thing hard, MLS will cooperate and literally cut the schedule back significiantly, and the travel distance is far easier to the States than Australia.

    IMHO our only drawback would be the fact that we have the Gold Cup and Confederation Cup almost back to back.
  20. csh2000

    csh2000 New Member

    Nov 2, 2000
    In a conference call after being re-elected U.S. Soccer President on August 9, Contiguglia said:

    It sounds like we want to host, but aren't aggressively pursuing it.

    I know it's a smaller event, but I don't know if FIFA would give it to UEFA two times in a row - 2003 and Germany in 2005. Especially after UEFA said a few months ago that they would end their participation in it after 2005.
  21. jd2084

    jd2084 New Member

    Aug 1, 2001
    Rhode Island
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That may be the reason they give it to UEFA. Throw them a bone, so they won't withdraw. Remember w/out UEFA this tournamet will likely crumble.
  22. Scrandal

    Scrandal Member

    Nov 5, 2001
    Charlotte, NC
    Pursuit of the Confederation Cup

    It sounds like we want to host, but aren't aggressively pursuing it.

    posted by csh


    Guys I still don't know how to cut and paste from prior posts so I did it the old way but my comment regarding our desire to host the '03 Confed Cup came from reading the LA Times Grahme Jones article. In that article, which I can't find a link to, it had multiple quotes from a variety of US Soccer and MLS upper management regarding how big this tourney would be to capitalize on the performance of our World Cup run.
  23. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Re: Pursuit of the Confederation Cup

    click on the box "quote" in the lower right hand corner of the post you want to reference.
  24. Pyro

    Pyro Member

    Apr 18, 2000
    Fulton River District
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    UPDATE - From Cnnsi Inside Soccer

    "It appears likely that the U.S. is going to host the Confederations Cup" - Grant Wahl

    So much for the French.

    This would be great!

    Does anyone have a list of clubs expected to attend?
  25. eldiablito

    eldiablito New Member

    Jun 8, 2000
    in Sagy's shadow
    Re: UPDATE - From Cnnsi Inside Soccer

    The clubs in this case would be national teams:

    World Cup Champion: Brazil
    European Champion: France
    South American Champ: Colombia
    African Champ: Cameroon
    Concacaf Champ: USA
    Oceania Champ: New Zealand
    Asian Champ: Japan
    And one team invited as a guest

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