Concacaf Olympic Qualifiers 2020 ❂

Discussion in '2020 Women's Olympics' started by sbahnhof, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had no idea that this was true for Canada Soccer, but this is seriously ridiculous. And people wonder why women's soccer doesn't generate more revenue (reminds me of the jersey issues with the USWNT post-WWC):

     
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  2. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    To add a few highlights from days 1 & 2

    Group B
    CWOQ2020: Canada 11 - 0 Saint Kitts and Nevis
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrgPqgwcUR0
    [​IMG]


    Mexico are back in the game; the big one on Saturday will be Canada-Jamaica.

    CWOQ2020: Mexico 1 - 0 Jamaica - (Cuéllar 36')
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGjSdNFswQ

    (Match report: Loop Jamaica/Archive)​

    Group A
    CWOQ2020: Costa Rica 6 - 1 Panama
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPn203jzEbY
    [​IMG]

    (Match report: AP news)​

    CWOQ2020: United States 4 - 0 Haiti
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkYfLzjzrA


    "No, Haiti, you CAN'T have a valid goal. That's not allowed."

    [​IMG]

    Costa Rica v Haiti is first up on Friday. Haiti's Grenadières did a little better than I'd expected in their 1st game - wonder what they can do against the Costa Ricans.
     
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  3. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  4. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  5. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are two very poor parts to that
    1 - the call to disallow the goal
    2 - the US defending.
     
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  6. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    A comfortable game for Mexico v St Kitts & Nevis just now (and for the US v Panama yesterday).

    [​IMG] [​IMG] Coming up, the Group B match of the day is Jamaica vs Canada. The Reggae Girlz know they need to score an upset victory, or their tournament will likely be over after only 2 games. Christine Sinclair is "rested" for this one. Bunny Shaw is starting.
    (In Canada it's on Onesoccer & Rogers TV. In the US, Fox isn't listing this game? Streaming for the rest of the world)

    Jamaica vs Canada


     
  7. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  8. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
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  9. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Canada now leads 7-0 and Huitema has a hat trick and Beckie has a hat trick as well. This means that Group B is pretty much decided with Mexico and Canada advancing to the semis and the others just playing for one win.

    The only thing left is to see who plays who in the Semis I think it will be:
    Canada vs Costa Rica with Canada advancing to the final
    US vs Mexico with the US advancing to the final

    The final, if it goes as I expect in the semis, will be interesting because Canada looks much improved from the World Cup.
     
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  10. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Unless Mexico can upset Canada or even the USA in the semis, we'll see the USA & Canada in the Olympics.
     
  11. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Does CONCACAF refs ever read IFAB rules?

    Jessica McDonald vs.Yenith Bailey (10th minute)


    (no foul called, no card given.. Bailey ends up with broken cheek bone) :rolleyes:
     
  12. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its ugly, yes, but it was a 50/50 challenge (and I don't believe either used reckless or excessive force...or at least neither more than the other). Both are going for the ball, and end up head to head. McDonald is up in the air going for the header when Bailey punches the ball. Both are running towards the ball and then jump in the air with momentum towards the ball; McDonald cannot avoid the challenge. (Both hit heads, but Bailey ends up getting the worst of it.) The refs went with the earlier call here as they should. McDonald was offside when the challenge happened. It was an indirect kick coming out.
     
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  13. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #63 Lechus7, Feb 3, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2020
    Two participants doesn't auto-make 50/50 blame.
    One crucial difference - Bailey's timing is perfect (notice how she adjusted her run from goal, accounting for both charging opponents), McDonald on the other hand dosen't account for opponent GK at all in her calculations (unless she has eyes on the back on her head) when she's making her challange, she is late and thus misses the ball completly.
    That's no excuse. She has a functionig brain. She makes a decision to challange at speed with no regard for opponent and consequences of what will happen would she fail.
    It's reckless and ends up in serious foul play.

    Serious foul play
    A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

    Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

    Simply put ....if the boot was on the other foot with McDonald first to the ball and then K.O'd by Bailey, everybody would scream bloody murder PK! PK! PK! and at least yellow for Bailey!
    But since it's other way around then suddenly it's a fair 50/50 challange? o_O:laugh:

    EDIT. Another one, this time permanent "Red Card" should go for Panama's medical staff. Who is the doctor out there a 18 y.o athlete or a proffesional with MD in front of his name.:cautious:


     
  14. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    #64 FanOfFutbol, Feb 3, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2020
    Watching Hatti vs Panama and I really think that Panama is showing to be totally outclassed. 30:00 in and it is already 3-0 and it really should be 5-0.

    Panama has only had a couple of plays in the attacking half and those were not close and from a long distance. Hatti has had at least 5 clear breakaways and is breaking Panama's trap with great ease.

    I do want to say that this match day should really have been match day one. That would allow Hatti vs Panama to be a match that would still have meaning. As it is now the "meaning" is only the pride factor. That is not unimportant but it would mean a lot more if this was the first match day.

    The US vs Costa Rica later is also pretty meaningless mainly because winning the group means so little. But I guess the US will want to avoid Canada in the semis but the other group is undecided at this time so trying to avoid someone does not really come into play at all. But I think the US beats Costa Rica easily and Canada beats Mexico easily so the semis will be: US vs Mexico and Canada vs Costa Rica as most expected from the start.
     
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  15. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    If Hatti had any real finishers it would be 8-0. But it is only 3-0 at the half.
     
  16. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It ends 6-0 and it was not that close. Panama just could not compete with anyone in this tournament.

    The final did bring Hatti back to a 0 goal differential in spite of having played the US and Costa Rica. It was a positive tournament for Hatti and Panama needs to regroup in order to be competitive.
     
  17. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Really, WTF happened to the Panama from the WWCQ campaign? They beat T&T, upset Mexico, and drew Jamaica a year and a half ago. Even when Mexico turned around and creamed them in the PanAms, they still had respectable results against Costa Rica and Argentina (and drew Peru, but that's not much to write home about). Their embarrassing performances these past few days are utterly baffling.
     
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  18. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #68 Lechus7, Feb 4, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2020
    One friendly match played in past 13 years with barely three NT camps called each year (all on official competition days). Panama's FA doing nothing new while some others around starting to invest in WoSo. I guess it finally caught up wth them.
     
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  19. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    worse is what happened to Jamaica?(with their 0-9 slaughter to Canada).It's really still about the HAVES vs the HAVE NOT/rich vs poor. What I don't get if woso claims to want equality, than why don't they make the Olympics for just u23?(like the men bascially do with a few exceptions). This would really give way more parity(as te u20 Concacaf proved a couple of years ago),
     
  20. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Maybe... It's just surprising that they did so well in 2018/19 with little support, but I don't really see any of the "others around" starting to invest, aside from maybe Mexico with their pro league truly getting off the ground after a few years of questionable progress.
    One bad game does not a fall from grace make. Once you get past 0-5, the score doesn't really matter. The difference between Jamaica and Panama right now is that the former played Mexico close and looks likely to beat SKN handily, which is roughly in line with past performances, while the latter got absolutely blown out by both CRC and Haiti, which is *far* below expectations. If I were Jamaica, I would only worry if SKN surprises me.

    That said, I always thought that it should've been Panama, not Jamaica, to have won that 3rd place game a year and a half ago. I was never actually sold on the idea of Jamaica being that good. Panama did better than Jamaica at the 2019 PanAms.
     
  21. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #71 Lechus7, Feb 4, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2020
    There are levels of investments...sometimes when there's no money, certain goodwill from FA's can make huge difference.
    ie. Look at Haiti, their recent success didn't come from nowhere
    https://equalizersoccer.com/2018/08...cess-future-2010-earthquake-impact-resources/

    what I ment is Costa Rica at least plays some friendlies and Valverde seem to have some pull in their federation to get opponents like Japan. Haiti youth program is starting to bear some fruits as well while Panama's only "big move" seem to be to hire Kenneth Zsermeta who has done some good things with Venezuela U-17's
     
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  22. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Group A
    USA 9pts and Costa Rica 6 (Q), Haiti 3, Panama 0

    Highlights
    Panama 0 - 8 USA
    USA 6 - 0 Costa Rica

    Haiti 0 - 2 Costa Rica - (Rodriguez 57', 66')
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=orbxbIy4wkM
    [​IMG]


    Panama 0 - 6 Haiti
    (Mondésir 5'p, 84', Saint-Félix 12', 29', Dumornay 47', B Louis 59')
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LGP8PmwuQw
    [​IMG]


    Group B
    2nd matchday
    St Kitts & Nevis 0 - 6 Mexico
    (Palacios 3', López 4', Mayor 9'p, Cuéllar 22', 52', Mercado 76')
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wNOLLlE3i8
    [​IMG]


    Jamaica 0 - 9 Canada
    youtu.be/BwU4WS6QeXk

    Jamaica, set up to fail by the uncaring JFF... Canada, able to play boringly even if they were winning a game 7-6... Anyhoo, today's early game is the most decisive one in the 3rd matchday, kicking off soon. Level on points, Canada need only a draw, Mexico must win to win group B.

    Streaming for the rest of the world (in the relevant countries it's on OneSoccer, TUDN and FS2)

    Canada vs Mexico


    Mexico XI - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP9xmcBWAAI5a1i?format=jpg&name=medium
    Canada XI - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP9wHnmWoAEr7GP?format=jpg&name=medium

    (The late game is Jamaica vs St Kitts & Nevis.)
     
  23. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    As of now @ 10 mins in Mexico is playing pretty even and maybe a little bit better than Canada. However they seem to be working a LOT harder than Canada and they might tire after a while.
     
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  24. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The first half ends with a goalkeeping mistake by Mexico leading to a second goal for Canada. Canada is up 2-0 at the half but Mexico's attack keeps giving the ball away early so, unless things change, Canada will will this one even though Mexico is playing pretty well.
     
  25. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I kinda wanted this a closer game Mexico.... why do ya have to give up goals like that?
     

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