To be fair, if the CSA gets an extra berth because they now have a new league, who's to say they force one of their two berths to be a CPL team? As has been said very often in the USSF/MLS back-and-forths, the berths are awarded to the organizing bodies, not directly to leagues. I would bet that if the CSA does end up getting a second berth, they'd want to try to make it so that their MLS teams can fill both. Maybe one berth stays with the CCC while the other goes to best MLS reg. season finish?
That's a great way to undermine your upstart domestic league. I'd be very surprised if the CSA did that. I'd also anticipate that a second Canadian berth would be in the CL rather than the CCL, and I don't know that MLS teams want to go through that tournament.
From everything I've seen (internet, not necessarily CSA), the plan is for the winner of CPL to get any additional CCL bids that Canada gets for (finally) having a professional league of their own.
Montreal and Vancouver are welcome to start fielding their sides in CanPL instead and go for that extra spot
Only if the leagues stay at a relatively similar level which MLS clearly has not. Using an average to judge the current level a rapidly changing league makes as much sense as measuring the current speed of a rocket during lift-off by taking an average of the 5 prior periods.
Will be posting updated coefficients shortly. There's so much movement in the club rankings that I won't be tracking that; on the federation front, Honduras jumped over Panama.
Removed from active rankings: - San Jose (USA) - may still qualify through 2018 MLS Cup, but that's, uh...doubtful. - Houston (USA) - may still qualify through 2018 U.S. Open Cup or 2018 MLS Cup - Cartagines (CRC) - San Miguelito (PAN) - Heredia (GUA) - L.A. Firpo (SLV) Added to active rankings for Concacaf League: - Perez Zeledon (CRC) - Universitario (PAN) - Diriangen (NCA) - Belmopan Bandits (BLZ) - Arnett Gardens (JAM/CFU) - Club Franciscain (MTQ/CFU) Added to active rankings for Champions League: - Marathon (HON) - Independiente (PAN) - Atletico Pantoja (DOM/CFU) Code: As of July 24, 2018 Federation Coefficient Nation 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall Mexico 14.375 22.000 18.000 14.125 0.000 68.500 Canada 22.000 4.500 19.500 21.000 0.000 67.000 United States 9.875 12.875 10.625 7.125 0.000 40.500 Costa Rica 15.667 6.000 8.500 3.125 0.000 33.292 Honduras 8.500 6.750 7.500 3.125 0.000 25.875 Panama 2.250 6.000 10.750 4.625 0.000 23.625 Guatemala 6.000 4.500 4.500 0.000 0.000 15.000 El Salvador 0.750 3.000 3.750 3.333 0.000 10.833 Nicaragua 3.000 0.000 3.000 2.250 0.000 8.250 CFU 2.000 3.000 1.000 0.250 0.000 6.250 Belize 0.000 4.500 0.000 0.000 0.000 4.500 Club Coefficient Club 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall America 34.7917 38.8333 6.0000 20.7083 0.0000 100.3333 UANL 4.7917 29.3333 31.0000 14.2083 0.0000 79.3333 Pachuca 18.7917 7.3333 34.5000 4.7083 0.0000 65.3333 New York 9.2917 4.2917 16.0417 18.3750 0.0000 48.0001 Guadalajara 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 29.2083 0.0000 47.3333 Vancouver 7.3333 6.0000 26.0000 7.0000 0.0000 46.3333 Olimpia 15.3333 8.2500 10.0000 12.0417 0.0000 45.6250 D.C. United 20.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 44.5001 Montreal 29.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 44.3333 Herediano 26.2222 8.0000 7.3333 2.5417 0.0000 44.0973 Toronto 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 28.0000 0.0000 43.3333 Santos 4.7917 25.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 40.8333 Saprissa 14.7222 8.0000 15.3333 2.5417 0.0000 40.5973 Queretaro 4.7917 23.8333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 39.3333 Arabe Unido 0.7500 8.0000 20.5833 7.0417 0.0000 36.3750 UNAM 4.7917 7.3333 18.5000 4.7083 0.0000 35.3333 Dallas 3.2917 4.2917 21.5417 5.3750 0.0000 34.5001 Seattle 3.2917 15.2917 3.5417 10.3750 0.0000 32.5001 Leon 12.2917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 30.3333 Portland 12.2917 4.2917 11.0417 2.3750 0.0000 30.0001 Tijuana 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 11.2083 0.0000 29.3333 Cruz Azul 10.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Monterrey 4.7917 7.3333 12.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Alajuelense 21.7222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.0000 27.5973 Salt Lake 3.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 27.5001 LA Galaxy 3.2917 16.7917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 26.0001 Kansas City 10.7917 4.2917 8.0417 2.3750 0.0000 25.5001 Toluca 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Mexico 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Canada 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 22.3333 Santos d.G. 5.2223 2.0000 2.8333 10.5417 0.0000 20.5973 Motagua 2.8333 9.7500 2.5000 2.5417 0.0000 17.6250 Plaza Amador 0.7500 2.0000 8.0833 6.5417 0.0000 17.3750 Comun. (GUA) 9.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 17.0000 H. Progreso 2.8333 2.2500 10.0000 1.0417 0.0000 16.1250 Chorrillo 5.2500 2.0000 3.5833 4.5417 0.0000 15.3750 Colorado 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 3.8750 0.0000 15.0001 Municipal 6.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 14.0000 S. Francisco 0.7500 8.0000 3.5833 1.5417 0.0000 13.8750 Alianza 0.2500 1.0000 7.2500 5.1111 0.0000 13.6110 USA 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 13.5001 Real Espana 7.3333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.0000 13.1250 Tauro 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 6.5417 0.0000 12.8750 Perez Zeledon5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.0000 11.0973 Costa Rica 5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.0000 11.0973 Suchitepequez2.0000 1.5000 7.5000 0.0000 0.0000 11.0000 Real Esteli 4.0000 0.0000 4.0000 1.7500 0.0000 9.7500 Santa Tecla 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 4.1111 0.0000 9.6110 Marathon 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.0000 8.6250 Honduras 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.0000 8.6250 Central 0.6667 5.5000 1.8333 0.0833 0.0000 8.0833 Waterhouse 6.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.0000 8.0833 Antigua (GUA)2.0000 1.5000 4.5000 0.0000 0.0000 8.0000 Independiente0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 0.0000 7.8750 Universitario0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 0.0000 7.8750 Panama 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 0.0000 7.8750 Aguila 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 4.1111 0.0000 6.6110 Is. Metapan 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.0000 6.6110 W Connection 0.6667 4.0000 1.8333 0.0833 0.0000 6.5833 W. Ferretti 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 4.2500 0.0000 6.2500 Verdes 0.0000 6.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 6.0000 Dragon 0.2500 1.0000 2.7500 1.1111 0.0000 5.1110 FAS 1.7500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.0000 5.1110 Guatemala 2.0000 1.5000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 5.0000 El Salvador 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.0000 3.6110 Montego Bay 0.6667 2.5000 0.3333 0.0833 0.0000 3.5833 Portmore Utd 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 1.0833 0.0000 3.0833 Diriangen 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.7500 0.0000 2.7500 Nicaragua 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.7500 0.0000 2.7500 Arnett Gard. 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.0000 2.0833 Atl. Pantoja 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.0000 2.0833 Franciscain 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.0000 2.0833 CFU 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.0000 2.0833 Belmopan B. 0.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.5000 Belize 0.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.5000
NYRB and VWFC benefit quite a lot when the 13-14 results are phased out, it seems! So too apparently do DCU and the other Canadian clubs. Big drops, respectively, for any team from 13-14 and has participated less than twice since. The coefficient system is always really interesting in that it's often a disbenefit to clubs from higher-parity leagues because of that "you need to return to keep your high coefficient" factor. I wonder if things would be more stable if someone tried a ranking more akin to Elo, Glicko, or Massey. At the very least, CONCACAF's new ranking system that ties to qualification slots instead of tying directly to clubs gets around that issue... somewhat.
I'm pretty sure that UANL is essentially the only team that can overtake America, and I'm guessing they need to be near-perfect in order to do so. The three highest single-season scores still in the rankings are 38.83, 34.79, and 34.50, so that only leaves UANL and Pachuca in contention, but Pachuca isn't playing this year, and I think scores like that aren't even possible anymore since the CCL has fewer games than it used to (unless maybe a team wins the CL and then somehow also makes a deep run through the CCL). Granted, once the 2019 CCL is over, UANL is guaranteed to overtake America - but it won't happen much before then, if at all.
A run to the final would probably do it. They need to outscore the "generic Mexican club" by 21 points; Chivas did that by 24.5 last season, America only did by 16. The absolute maximum club coefficient for a Champions League-only participant is 42.6667, and that would be for a Canadian team that won every match it played in. That puts the base "pass America" threshold for a CCL participant at 57.6666, which leaves just Pachuca (like you said, not participating), and Tigres. The maximum club coefficient for a Concacaf League participant is 58.6667, which could (very theoretically) be achieved by the Belize representative, which lowers the base threshold to 41.6666. That ropes in Herediano. Herediano, however, doesn't get the benefit that Canadian and Belizean (?) clubs do, namely that their max score suffers from the existence of other Costa Rican clubs. There are four participants across the two tournaments, so the maximum score that Herediano can put up this year, assuming that they won every match throughout both tournaments, and so did every Costa Rican team against every non-Costa Rican team, and the draw kept Costa Rican teams apart for as long as possible, is 50.9167. That, plus the 44.0973 they already have, only gets them to 95.0140. So, America is safe from the hypothetical Year of Herediano. All that to say, yeah, it's America or Tigres for the top spot, but America's run at the summit will be over as soon as the 2019 Champions League finishes.
The Red Bulls are the first club not from Liga MX to be fourth or higher since Herediano after the 2016-2017 Group Stage. Unfortunately, it will be hard for them to qualify for the 2019 CCL. I'd love if they won their first MLS Cup and qualified that way. Toronto's 2017 MLS Cup win made a spot available for club with the most combined regular season points in 2017 and 2018 other than American clubs who win the 2018 MLS Cup and/or U.S. Open Cup. Atlanta leads that, NYCFC leads that if you go by points per game, and the Red Bulls are third. If the Red Bulls finish second to NYCFC in that, it could make a strange situation. If MLS Cup is between NYCFC and a Western Conference club other than Sporting Kansas City, Vancouver (who isn't in playoff position now), or Los Angeles FC or Houston (the two remaining Western Conference clubs) as the 2018 U.S. Open Cup winner, the Red Bulls could qualify for the CCL only if NYCFC won MLS Cup and double qualified for the CCL from MLS Cup and regular season points. Imagine if Real Madrid was in a Champions League Final and Barcelona would qualify for the next Champions League only if Real Madrid won. I'm not saying that will happen soon, but that's an analogy.
After 2018 CONCACAF League, Round of 16 Federation Movement None Club Movement - Herediano over Vancouver, Olimpia, D.C. United, and Montreal - Saprissa over Santos Laguna - San Francisco over Municipal - Real Espana over Municipal and Alianza - Tauro tied with Chorrillo, over Colorado, San Francisco, Real Espana, Municipal, and Alianza - Santa Tecla over Real Esteli - Independiente over Central, Waterhouse, and Antigua - Universitario over Suchitepequez, Santa Tecla, Real Esteli, Marathon, Independiente, Central, Waterhouse, and Antigua - Walter Ferretti over Independiente, Central, Waterhouse, Antigua, Aguila, Isidro Metapan, and W Connection - FAS over Aguila, Isidro Metapan, W Connection, Verdes, and Dragon - Portmore United over Montego Bay - Franciscain tied with Arnett Gardens, over Atletico Pantoja Removed from active rankings - Diriangen (NCA) - Belmopan Bandits (BLZ) Code: As of August 10, 2018 Federation Coefficient Nation 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall Mexico 14.375 22.000 18.000 14.125 0.000 68.500 Canada 22.000 4.500 19.500 21.000 0.000 67.000 United States 9.875 12.875 10.625 7.125 0.000 40.500 Costa Rica 15.667 6.000 8.500 3.125 0.875 34.167 Honduras 8.500 6.750 7.500 3.125 1.167 27.042 Panama 2.250 6.000 10.750 4.625 1.875 25.500 Guatemala 6.000 4.500 4.500 0.000 0.000 15.000 El Salvador 0.750 3.000 3.750 3.333 1.167 12.000 Nicaragua 3.000 0.000 3.000 2.250 1.000 9.250 CFU 2.000 3.000 1.000 0.250 1.000 7.250 Belize 0.000 4.500 0.000 0.000 0.000 4.500 Club Coefficient Club 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall America 34.7917 38.8333 6.0000 20.7083 0.0000 100.3333 UANL 4.7917 29.3333 31.0000 14.2083 0.0000 79.3333 Pachuca 18.7917 7.3333 34.5000 4.7083 0.0000 65.3333 New York 9.2917 4.2917 16.0417 18.3750 0.0000 48.0001 Guadalajara 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 29.2083 0.0000 47.3333 Herediano 26.2222 8.0000 7.3333 2.5417 2.2917 46.3890 Vancouver 7.3333 6.0000 26.0000 7.0000 0.0000 46.3333 Olimpia 15.3333 8.2500 10.0000 12.0417 0.3889 46.0139 D.C. United 20.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 44.5001 Montreal 29.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 44.3333 Toronto 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 28.0000 0.0000 43.3333 Saprissa 14.7222 8.0000 15.3333 2.5417 0.2917 40.8890 Santos 4.7917 25.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 40.8333 Queretaro 4.7917 23.8333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 39.3333 Arabe Unido 0.7500 8.0000 20.5833 7.0417 2.6250 39.0000 UNAM 4.7917 7.3333 18.5000 4.7083 0.0000 35.3333 Dallas 3.2917 4.2917 21.5417 5.3750 0.0000 34.5001 Seattle 3.2917 15.2917 3.5417 10.3750 0.0000 32.5001 Leon 12.2917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 30.3333 Portland 12.2917 4.2917 11.0417 2.3750 0.0000 30.0001 Tijuana 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 11.2083 0.0000 29.3333 Cruz Azul 10.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Monterrey 4.7917 7.3333 12.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Alajuelense 21.7222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.2917 27.8890 Salt Lake 3.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 27.5001 LA Galaxy 3.2917 16.7917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 26.0001 Kansas City 10.7917 4.2917 8.0417 2.3750 0.0000 25.5001 Toluca 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Mexico 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Canada 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 22.3333 Santos d.G. 5.2223 2.0000 2.8333 10.5417 1.2917 21.8890 Motagua 2.8333 9.7500 2.5000 2.5417 3.3889 21.0139 Plaza Amador 0.7500 2.0000 8.0833 6.5417 0.6250 18.0000 Comun. (GUA) 9.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 17.0000 H. Progreso 2.8333 2.2500 10.0000 1.0417 0.3889 16.5139 Chorrillo 5.2500 2.0000 3.5833 4.5417 0.6250 16.0000 Tauro 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 6.5417 3.1250 16.0000 Colorado 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 3.8750 0.0000 15.0001 S. Francisco 0.7500 8.0000 3.5833 1.5417 0.6250 14.5000 Real Espana 7.3333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.8889 14.0139 Municipal 6.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 14.0000 Alianza 0.2500 1.0000 7.2500 5.1111 0.3889 13.9999 USA 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 13.5001 Perez Zeledon5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.7917 11.8890 Universitario0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 3.6250 11.5000 Costa Rica 5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.2917 11.3890 Suchitepequez2.0000 1.5000 7.5000 0.0000 0.0000 11.0000 Santa Tecla 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 4.1111 1.3889 10.9999 Real Esteli 4.0000 0.0000 4.0000 1.7500 0.3333 10.0833 Marathon 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.3889 9.0139 Honduras 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.3889 9.0139 W. Ferretti 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 4.2500 2.3333 8.5833 Independiente0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 0.6250 8.5000 Panama 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 0.6250 8.5000 Central 0.6667 5.5000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Waterhouse 6.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Antigua (GUA)2.0000 1.5000 4.5000 0.0000 0.0000 8.0000 FAS 1.7500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 2.8889 7.9999 Aguila 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 4.1111 0.3889 6.9999 Is. Metapan 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 6.9999 W Connection 0.6667 4.0000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 6.9166 Verdes 0.0000 6.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 6.0000 Dragon 0.2500 1.0000 2.7500 1.1111 0.3889 5.4999 Portmore Utd 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 1.0833 2.3333 5.4166 Guatemala 2.0000 1.5000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 5.0000 El Salvador 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 3.9999 Montego Bay 0.6667 2.5000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 3.9166 Arnett Gard. 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Franciscain 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Nicaragua 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.7500 0.3333 3.0833 Atl. Pantoja 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 CFU 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 Belize 0.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.5000
Canada should really have multiple teams already, I know it's ridiculous but even without the coefficient you have Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver who all bring performances and attendance to these games. They could have the three best MLS teams and still be limited to one representative
This debate happens here all the time, and until the CPL takes off, no, they should not. The US shouldn't have 4 slots, but Canada can't have more than 1 without a professional league. It's akin to Liechtenstein in Europe.
Well Liechtenstein's cup winners go straight into the second-tier tournament, but if they did go into the Champions League and sent teams to the semis every few years, they might argue for both cup finalists to get in!
After 2018 Concacaf League Quarterfinals Federation Movement None Club Movement - Olimpia over Vancouver - Herediano over New York and Guadalajara - Arabe Unido over Saprissa, Santos Laguna, and Queretaro - Motagua over Toluca and Santos d.G. - Tauro over Plaza Amador, Comunicaciones, Honduras Progreso, and Chorrillo - Independiente over Walter Ferretti Code: As of September 16, 2018 Federation Coefficient Nation 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall Mexico 14.375 22.000 18.000 14.125 0.000 68.500 Canada 22.000 4.500 19.500 21.000 0.000 67.000 United States 9.875 12.875 10.625 7.125 0.000 40.500 Costa Rica 15.667 6.000 8.500 3.125 1.625 34.917 Honduras 8.500 6.750 7.500 3.125 2.167 28.042 Panama 2.250 6.000 10.750 4.625 3.375 27.000 Guatemala 6.000 4.500 4.500 0.000 0.000 15.000 El Salvador 0.750 3.000 3.750 3.333 1.167 12.000 Nicaragua 3.000 0.000 3.000 2.250 1.000 9.250 CFU 2.000 3.000 1.000 0.250 1.000 7.250 Belize 0.000 4.500 0.000 0.000 0.000 4.500 Club Coefficient Club 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall America 34.7917 38.8333 6.0000 20.7083 0.0000 100.3333 UANL 4.7917 29.3333 31.0000 14.2083 0.0000 79.3333 Pachuca 18.7917 7.3333 34.5000 4.7083 0.0000 65.3333 Herediano 26.2222 8.0000 7.3333 2.5417 5.5417 49.6390 New York 9.2917 4.2917 16.0417 18.3750 0.0000 48.0001 Guadalajara 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 29.2083 0.0000 47.3333 Olimpia 15.3333 8.2500 10.0000 12.0417 0.7222 46.3472 Vancouver 7.3333 6.0000 26.0000 7.0000 0.0000 46.3333 D.C. United 20.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 44.5001 Montreal 29.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 44.3333 Toronto 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 28.0000 0.0000 43.3333 Arabe Unido 0.7500 8.0000 20.5833 7.0417 6.1250 42.5000 Saprissa 14.7222 8.0000 15.3333 2.5417 0.5417 41.1390 Santos 4.7917 25.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 40.8333 Queretaro 4.7917 23.8333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 39.3333 UNAM 4.7917 7.3333 18.5000 4.7083 0.0000 35.3333 Dallas 3.2917 4.2917 21.5417 5.3750 0.0000 34.5001 Seattle 3.2917 15.2917 3.5417 10.3750 0.0000 32.5001 Leon 12.2917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 30.3333 Portland 12.2917 4.2917 11.0417 2.3750 0.0000 30.0001 Tijuana 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 11.2083 0.0000 29.3333 Cruz Azul 10.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Monterrey 4.7917 7.3333 12.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Alajuelense 21.7222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.5417 28.1390 Salt Lake 3.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 27.5001 LA Galaxy 3.2917 16.7917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 26.0001 Kansas City 10.7917 4.2917 8.0417 2.3750 0.0000 25.5001 Motagua 2.8333 9.7500 2.5000 2.5417 6.7222 24.3472 Toluca 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Mexico 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Canada 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 22.3333 Santos d.G. 5.2223 2.0000 2.8333 10.5417 1.5417 22.1390 Tauro 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 6.5417 6.6250 19.5000 Plaza Amador 0.7500 2.0000 8.0833 6.5417 1.1250 18.5000 Comun. (GUA) 9.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 17.0000 H. Progreso 2.8333 2.2500 10.0000 1.0417 0.7222 16.8472 Chorrillo 5.2500 2.0000 3.5833 4.5417 1.1250 16.5000 Colorado 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 3.8750 0.0000 15.0001 S. Francisco 0.7500 8.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.1250 15.0000 Real Espana 7.3333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 1.2222 14.3472 Municipal 6.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 14.0000 Alianza 0.2500 1.0000 7.2500 5.1111 0.3889 13.9999 USA 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 13.5001 Perez Zeledon5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 1.0417 12.1390 Universitario0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 4.1250 12.0000 Costa Rica 5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.5417 11.6390 Suchitepequez2.0000 1.5000 7.5000 0.0000 0.0000 11.0000 Santa Tecla 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 4.1111 1.3889 10.9999 Real Esteli 4.0000 0.0000 4.0000 1.7500 0.3333 10.0833 Marathon 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.7222 9.3472 Honduras 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.7222 9.3472 Independiente0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.1250 9.0000 Panama 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.1250 9.0000 W. Ferretti 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 4.2500 2.3333 8.5833 Central 0.6667 5.5000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Waterhouse 6.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Antigua (GUA)2.0000 1.5000 4.5000 0.0000 0.0000 8.0000 FAS 1.7500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 2.8889 7.9999 Aguila 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 4.1111 0.3889 6.9999 Is. Metapan 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 6.9999 W Connection 0.6667 4.0000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 6.9166 Verdes 0.0000 6.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 6.0000 Dragon 0.2500 1.0000 2.7500 1.1111 0.3889 5.4999 Portmore Utd 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 1.0833 2.3333 5.4166 Guatemala 2.0000 1.5000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 5.0000 El Salvador 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 3.9999 Montego Bay 0.6667 2.5000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 3.9166 Arnett Gard. 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Franciscain 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Nicaragua 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.7500 0.3333 3.0833 Atl. Pantoja 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 CFU 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 Belize 0.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.5000
Alajuelense was 3rd at the start of the 2015-16 tournament. I'm guessing that's the highest, but I didn't look at every update.
After 2018 Concacaf League Semifinals Federation Movement None Club Movement - Arabe Unido over Toronto - Motagua over LA Galaxy and Kansas City - H. Progreso over Comunicaciones Code: As of October 5, 2018 Federation Coefficient Nation 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall Mexico 14.375 22.000 18.000 14.125 0.000 68.500 Canada 22.000 4.500 19.500 21.000 0.000 67.000 United States 9.875 12.875 10.625 7.125 0.000 40.500 Costa Rica 15.667 6.000 8.500 3.125 2.125 35.417 Honduras 8.500 6.750 7.500 3.125 2.833 28.708 Panama 2.250 6.000 10.750 4.625 3.875 27.500 Guatemala 6.000 4.500 4.500 0.000 0.000 15.000 El Salvador 0.750 3.000 3.750 3.333 1.167 12.000 Nicaragua 3.000 0.000 3.000 2.250 1.000 9.250 CFU 2.000 3.000 1.000 0.250 1.000 7.250 Belize 0.000 4.500 0.000 0.000 0.000 4.500 Club Coefficient Club 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall America 34.7917 38.8333 6.0000 20.7083 0.0000 100.3333 UANL 4.7917 29.3333 31.0000 14.2083 0.0000 79.3333 Pachuca 18.7917 7.3333 34.5000 4.7083 0.0000 65.3333 Herediano 26.2222 8.0000 7.3333 2.5417 7.7083 51.8056 New York 9.2917 4.2917 16.0417 18.3750 0.0000 48.0001 Guadalajara 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 29.2083 0.0000 47.3333 Olimpia 15.3333 8.2500 10.0000 12.0417 0.9444 46.5694 Vancouver 7.3333 6.0000 26.0000 7.0000 0.0000 46.3333 D.C. United 20.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 44.5001 Montreal 29.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 44.3333 Arabe Unido 0.7500 8.0000 20.5833 7.0417 7.2917 43.6667 Toronto 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 28.0000 0.0000 43.3333 Saprissa 14.7222 8.0000 15.3333 2.5417 0.7083 41.3056 Santos 4.7917 25.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 40.8333 Queretaro 4.7917 23.8333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 39.3333 UNAM 4.7917 7.3333 18.5000 4.7083 0.0000 35.3333 Dallas 3.2917 4.2917 21.5417 5.3750 0.0000 34.5001 Seattle 3.2917 15.2917 3.5417 10.3750 0.0000 32.5001 Leon 12.2917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 30.3333 Portland 12.2917 4.2917 11.0417 2.3750 0.0000 30.0001 Tijuana 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 11.2083 0.0000 29.3333 Cruz Azul 10.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Monterrey 4.7917 7.3333 12.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Alajuelense 21.7222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.7083 28.3056 Salt Lake 3.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 27.5001 Motagua 2.8333 9.7500 2.5000 2.5417 8.9444 26.5694 LA Galaxy 3.2917 16.7917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 26.0001 Kansas City 10.7917 4.2917 8.0417 2.3750 0.0000 25.5001 Toluca 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Mexico 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Canada 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 22.3333 Santos d.G. 5.2223 2.0000 2.8333 10.5417 1.5417 22.1390 Tauro 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 6.5417 7.7917 20.6667 Plaza Amador 0.7500 2.0000 8.0833 6.5417 1.2917 18.6667 H. Progreso 2.8333 2.2500 10.0000 1.0417 0.9444 17.0694 Comun. (GUA) 9.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 17.0000 Chorrillo 5.2500 2.0000 3.5833 4.5417 1.2917 16.6667 S. Francisco 0.7500 8.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.2917 15.1667 Colorado 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 3.8750 0.0000 15.0001 Real Espana 7.3333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 1.4444 14.5694 Municipal 6.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 14.0000 Alianza 0.2500 1.0000 7.2500 5.1111 0.3889 13.9999 USA 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 13.5001 Perez Zeledon5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 1.2083 12.3056 Universitario0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 4.2917 12.1667 Costa Rica 5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.7083 11.8056 Suchitepequez2.0000 1.5000 7.5000 0.0000 0.0000 11.0000 Santa Tecla 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 4.1111 1.3889 10.9999 Real Esteli 4.0000 0.0000 4.0000 1.7500 0.3333 10.0833 Marathon 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.9444 9.5694 Honduras 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 0.9444 9.5694 Independiente0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.2917 9.1667 Panama 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.2917 9.1667 W. Ferretti 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 4.2500 2.3333 8.5833 Central 0.6667 5.5000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Waterhouse 6.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Antigua (GUA)2.0000 1.5000 4.5000 0.0000 0.0000 8.0000 FAS 1.7500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 2.8889 7.9999 Aguila 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 4.1111 0.3889 6.9999 Is. Metapan 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 6.9999 W Connection 0.6667 4.0000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 6.9166 Verdes 0.0000 6.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 6.0000 Dragon 0.2500 1.0000 2.7500 1.1111 0.3889 5.4999 Portmore Utd 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 1.0833 2.3333 5.4166 Guatemala 2.0000 1.5000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 5.0000 El Salvador 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 3.9999 Montego Bay 0.6667 2.5000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 3.9166 Arnett Gard. 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Franciscain 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Nicaragua 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.7500 0.3333 3.0833 Atl. Pantoja 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 CFU 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 Belize 0.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.5000
After 2018 Concacaf League Federation Movement None Club Movement - Motagua over Salt Lake Added to Rankings - Atlanta (USA) - Houston (USA) - Guastatoya (GUA) Code: As of November 5, 2018 Federation Coefficient Nation 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall Mexico 14.375 22.000 18.000 14.125 0.000 68.500 Canada 22.000 4.500 19.500 21.000 0.000 67.000 United States 9.875 12.875 10.625 7.125 0.000 40.500 Costa Rica 15.667 6.000 8.500 3.125 2.625 35.917 Honduras 8.500 6.750 7.500 3.125 3.167 29.042 Panama 2.250 6.000 10.750 4.625 3.875 27.500 Guatemala 6.000 4.500 4.500 0.000 0.000 15.000 El Salvador 0.750 3.000 3.750 3.333 1.167 12.000 Nicaragua 3.000 0.000 3.000 2.250 1.000 9.250 CFU 2.000 3.000 1.000 0.250 1.000 7.250 Belize 0.000 4.500 0.000 0.000 0.000 4.500 Club Coefficient Club 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 Overall America 34.7917 38.8333 6.0000 20.7083 0.0000 100.3333 UANL 4.7917 29.3333 31.0000 14.2083 0.0000 79.3333 Pachuca 18.7917 7.3333 34.5000 4.7083 0.0000 65.3333 Herediano 26.2222 8.0000 7.3333 2.5417 9.8750 53.9723 New York 9.2917 4.2917 16.0417 18.3750 0.0000 48.0001 Guadalajara 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 29.2083 0.0000 47.3333 Olimpia 15.3333 8.2500 10.0000 12.0417 1.0556 46.6806 Vancouver 7.3333 6.0000 26.0000 7.0000 0.0000 46.3333 D.C. United 20.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 44.5001 Montreal 29.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 44.3333 Arabe Unido 0.7500 8.0000 20.5833 7.0417 7.2917 43.6667 Toronto 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 28.0000 0.0000 43.3333 Saprissa 14.7222 8.0000 15.3333 2.5417 0.8750 41.4723 Santos 4.7917 25.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 40.8333 Queretaro 4.7917 23.8333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 39.3333 UNAM 4.7917 7.3333 18.5000 4.7083 0.0000 35.3333 Dallas 3.2917 4.2917 21.5417 5.3750 0.0000 34.5001 Seattle 3.2917 15.2917 3.5417 10.3750 0.0000 32.5001 Leon 12.2917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 30.3333 Portland 12.2917 4.2917 11.0417 2.3750 0.0000 30.0001 Tijuana 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 11.2083 0.0000 29.3333 Cruz Azul 10.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Monterrey 4.7917 7.3333 12.0000 4.7083 0.0000 28.8333 Alajuelense 21.7222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.8750 28.4723 Motagua 2.8333 9.7500 2.5000 2.5417 10.0556 27.6806 Salt Lake 3.2917 18.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 27.5001 LA Galaxy 3.2917 16.7917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 26.0001 Kansas City 10.7917 4.2917 8.0417 2.3750 0.0000 25.5001 Toluca 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Mexico 4.7917 7.3333 6.0000 4.7083 0.0000 22.8333 Santos d.G. 5.2223 2.0000 2.8333 10.5417 1.8750 22.4723 Canada 7.3333 1.5000 6.5000 7.0000 0.0000 22.3333 Tauro 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 6.5417 7.7917 20.6667 Plaza Amador 0.7500 2.0000 8.0833 6.5417 1.2917 18.6667 H. Progreso 2.8333 2.2500 10.0000 1.0417 1.0556 17.1806 Comun. (GUA) 9.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 17.0000 Chorrillo 5.2500 2.0000 3.5833 4.5417 1.2917 16.6667 S. Francisco 0.7500 8.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.2917 15.1667 Colorado 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 3.8750 0.0000 15.0001 Real Espana 7.3333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 1.5556 14.6806 Municipal 6.5000 6.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 14.0000 Alianza 0.2500 1.0000 7.2500 5.1111 0.3889 13.9999 Atlanta 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 13.5001 Houston 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 13.5001 USA 3.2917 4.2917 3.5417 2.3750 0.0000 13.5001 Perez Zeledon5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 1.3750 12.4723 Universitario0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 4.2917 12.1667 Costa Rica 5.2222 2.0000 2.8333 1.0417 0.8750 11.9723 Suchitepequez2.0000 1.5000 7.5000 0.0000 0.0000 11.0000 Santa Tecla 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 4.1111 1.3889 10.9999 Real Esteli 4.0000 0.0000 4.0000 1.7500 0.3333 10.0833 Marathon 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 1.0556 9.6806 Honduras 2.8333 2.2500 2.5000 1.0417 1.0556 9.6806 Independiente0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.2917 9.1667 Panama 0.7500 2.0000 3.5833 1.5417 1.2917 9.1667 W. Ferretti 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 4.2500 2.3333 8.5833 Central 0.6667 5.5000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Waterhouse 6.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 8.4166 Antigua (GUA)2.0000 1.5000 4.5000 0.0000 0.0000 8.0000 FAS 1.7500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 2.8889 7.9999 Aguila 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 4.1111 0.3889 6.9999 Is. Metapan 0.2500 4.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 6.9999 W Connection 0.6667 4.0000 1.8333 0.0833 0.3333 6.9166 Verdes 0.0000 6.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 6.0000 Dragon 0.2500 1.0000 2.7500 1.1111 0.3889 5.4999 Portmore Utd 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 1.0833 2.3333 5.4166 Guastatoya 2.0000 1.5000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 5.0000 Guatemala 2.0000 1.5000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 5.0000 El Salvador 0.2500 1.0000 1.2500 1.1111 0.3889 3.9999 Montego Bay 0.6667 2.5000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 3.9166 Arnett Gard. 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Franciscain 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 1.3333 3.4166 Nicaragua 1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.7500 0.3333 3.0833 Atl. Pantoja 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 CFU 0.6667 1.0000 0.3333 0.0833 0.3333 2.4166 Belize 0.0000 1.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.5000
Time for the ever-popular "what if they used better rankings to do the draw" post. Coefficients are based on the conclusion of the 2018 Concacaf Champions League. Draw done with a random number generator. Teams from the same country cannot be paired. If Concacaf stuck with the current format (2 pots, knockout draw): Pot 1: UANL (86.0416), Toluca (57.5416), Herediano (53.0973), New York (51.8751), Santos (47.5416), Toronto (45.3333), Saprissa (43.5973), Kansas City (43.3751) Pot 2: Monterrey (35.5416), Houston (24.8751), Atlanta (17.3571), Alianza (15.6111), Independiente (10.4583), Marathon (9.8750), Guastatoya (7.0000), Atletico Pantoja (2.2500) A system based on actual club performance puts two Costa Rican teams into Pot 1, and their draws get significantly better than real life as a result. New York - Marathon Toluca - Houston Santos - Atlanta Herediano - Independiente Toronto - Monterrey Saprissa - Alianza UANL - Guastatoya Kansas City - Atletico Pantoja If Concacaf went to 4 groups of 4: Pot 1: UANL, Toluca, Herediano, New York Pot 2: Santos, Toronto, Saprissa, Kansas City Pot 3: Monterrey, Houston, Atlanta, Alianza Pot 4: Independiente, Marathon, Guastatoya, Atletico Pantoja Same rules regarding countries: Group A: Toluca, Saprissa, Atlanta, Marathon Group B: Herediano, Kansas City, Monterrey, Guastatoya Group C: New York, Santos, Alianza, Atletico Pantoja Group D: UANL, Toronto, Houston, Marathon Groups A and B would be insane, Group D would be a lot of fun, and Group C would have two games of consequence.