So yesterday I remember that its two weeks before the Gold Cup. That means teams must list their FINAL roster to the Gold Cup So I go check out the rosters and all I get was the preliminary list that was given days ago by the Federations. Concacaf comes out with an article yesterday saying: All 12 teams have submitted their preliminary rosters, which must be reduced to 23 players no later than 24 hours before their first game. http://concacaf.com/view_article.aspx?id=4785 ??? That doesn't make sense, so I go and check the rules and regulations about the Gold Cup on the Concacaf website and I get this. XIII. ELIGIBILITY OF PLAYERS 5. Provisional List of Players Participating National Associations must provide their “List of Players” on the official form provided, to the office of the CONCACAF General Secretariat, at least 45 days prior to the first match. This list is not binding and must contain the names of at least 25 players. The list will be used for event promotion and data management. 6. Team Delegations and Final Roster Each participating Association shall submit to the CONCACAF General Secretariat its Final Delegation list of up to 30 persons, which may include up to 23 players, not later than 15 days prior to the first match of the Final Phase. Only these 23 players will (except in the case of force majeure recognized by the organizing committee for the CONCACAF Gold Cup) be permitted to compete in the Final Phase. 7. A listed player may only be substituted in the event of serious injury up until 24 hours before his team’s first match, after CONCACAF has received a detailed medical assessment in English and only after acceptance by the CONCACAF Sports Medical Committee that the injury is sufficiently serious to prevent the player from taking part in the Competition. The National Association shall then immediately nominate the substitute and inform CONCACAF accordingly. http://www.concacaf.com/graphics/stats-regs/pdf/GoldCupRegs.pdf Who are they trying to fool here
Whats more interesting is that a Concacaf team is in the Confederations Cup and plays on Sunday. And if one of their players happens to get a red and they were in the preliminary list then it would be easy to include them in the Gold Cup roster so they could serve their suspension there. Because imagine if Concacaf had followed their own rules and that team would have given their final roster yesterday. And by some unfortunate mishap a player not on the final roster were to get red carded tomorrow. The only place they could serve their suspension would be o wait the next qualifier. Better to miss a game at home against Grenada then away at Azteca. I guess thats what SUM thought. Just saying
Wait... I thought Gold Cup games were not 'good' to serve out suspensions. Bryan Ruiz wasn't allowed to serve his 2 yellow suspension during the Gold Cup, and is forced to miss the next WCQ game against Honduras. Yo simplemente creo que es inoperancia y mediocridad de parte de CONCACAF, eso es todo.
having a GC in the middle of the WCQ is stupid, thats it the winner doesnt even go to the Confederations cup, since we are having another GC in 2-3 years
Yellow card suspensions do not carry over between competitions. You can't serve yellow card suspensions from the WCQ in the Gold Cup, nor would any suspension from the Confed Cup be served in the Gold Cup. Straight red would carry over, of course.
This is what I've been saying all along. I think we should scrap the Gold Cup, send the hex qualifiers into Copa America, and let the carribbean teams, along with Belize and Nicaragua have their own tournament. They can even rotate it
They should have tournament like the NIT on NCAA basketball where all the best teams that are eliminated play to win something
Oh come off it people. Players can serve suspensions for anything regardless of weather or not they are on the roster. Bradley is being investigated by FIFA for seeking out the ref after the game he got red carded in. Any suspension given to him will be served with Gold Cup games. Thats like saying a player is only suspended for playoff games in the NBA. unrealistic. And just because the USA finally stands a chance at beating Mexico in Azteca and asserting it's dominance doesn't mean mexico fans need be defensive.
This is bullshit. Exactly what the previous poster said. If you're suspended for a FIFA competition for your team you don't have to be on the "roster", you serve your suspension regardless for whichever competition happens to be next on your teams schedule.
Lol. Though I was never keen on the idea of a four year Gold Cup just to accommodate UEFA schedules (the way CONMEBOL was forced to do with the Cop America) it's starting to look like a better option now. Pointless.
There has to be some disparity between the two suspensions. Maybe because Bradley's will be handed down by FIFA and CRC's suspension by CONCACAF? I was unaware a costa rican player is suspended but for some reason isn't serving his games in the Gold Cup. Maybe the suspension he got was in WCQ's, and thus had to serve it in another WCQ. Mastroeni missed the USA game vs. Mexico due to number of yellows after the last semi-final game even though the USA played a friendly in between. FIFA International event games probobly have their own rules for suspensions.
I guess someone read the thread and decided to change the rules on the fly. New rule ladies and gentleman Chuck Blazer presents: Confederations Cup teams permitted to boost Gold Cup rosters In light of the consecutive competitions, the Confederations Cup and the Gold Cup, with the objective of providing the best performance possible for the public, and in recognition that the back-to-back tournaments strain players and their clubs, CONCACAF will give permission to any team who also is participating in the Confederations Cup in the same year to enlarge their roster to 30 from the 23 already permitted http://concacaf.com/view_article.aspx?id=4794 How much money is SUM giving Blazer First this now getting Blazer to stop Mexican teams from playing the Sudamericana. f'k Concacaf and f'k Sum
And Mexico hasn't? Or every other nation in CONCACAF? The problem is that no one in this region stands up against him.
This latest rule change makes zero sense. It's not like the US is going to add Landon Donovan, Tim Howard, Gooch, Bradley Jr., etc. to the roster. I guess Chris Pontius may be getting his call up after all. Before anyone asks, the nationality rule change doesn't go into effect until Aug. 1, so Castillo won't be in red, white & blue. What a friggin joke.
April 20: Warner re-elected CONCACAF president with emphatic 33-2 victory over challenger Edgardo Codesal.
Things went from bad to worse for corruption in CONCACAF ever since that election. What is really bad about the situation is that even if every North and Central American country voted against Warner, he would still win because he has a complete iron grip control over the Caribbean nations, who would outnumber the others in the election. The bigger countries need to offer some incentives to the island countries. At this point, fighting corruption with corruption is the only real option to get Warner out of there.
What for the USSF already has Blazer in their back pocket. Or did you forget how Blazer lobbied Fifa in behalf of the USSF to give Espn/Univision the World Cup rights for 2010 and 2014 Because NBC Universal/Telemundo was not going to buy the rights for the MLS. Blazer lobbied Fifa to make the winner of the rights have to also pay for the rights for MLS.