I have tried to do a list of every CONCACAF player in a decent European league. My list is below, after the summary information regarding how may players each country has in Europe. The country, club, league, age, games and goals for each player is specified. TOTALS: Canada – 24 USA – 20 Jamaica – 17 T&T - 9 Costa Rica - 8 Honduras – 6 Mexico - 2 St. Vincent – 1 Panama – 1 Grenada – 1 Guatemala – 1 Bermuda - 1 FORWARDS[Jamaica – 7, USA – 3,Canada – 4, T&T – 3, Honduras – 2, Costa Rica – 2, St. Vincent – 1, Panama – 1, Grenada – 1, Guatemala - 1]: Ricardo Fuller (Jamaica), Preston North End, Engish 1, 23 years old, 18 games, 9 goals Tomas Radzinski (Canada), Everton, English Premier, 29, 21 games, 6 goals Deon Burton (Jamaica), Portmouth, English 1, 26, 17 games, 6 goals Rodney Jack (St. Vicent), Crewe Alexandria, English 2, 30, 21 games, 5 goals Shawn Goater (Bermuda), Manchester City, English Premier, 32, 16 games, 5 goals Joel Macnuff (Jamaica) Wimbleton, English 1, 21, 25 games, 4 goals Carlo Corazzini (Canada), Oldham United, English 2, 31, 24 games, 4 goals Dwight Yorke (T&T), Blackburn Rovers, English Premier, 31, 19 games, 4 goals David Suazo (Honduras), Caliguiri Serie B, 23, 16 games, 4 goals Julio Dely Valdes (Panama), Malaga, La Liga, 35, 15 games, 4 goals Jason Robards (Grenada), West Bromwich Albion, English Premier, 24, 21 games, 3 goals Stern John (T&T), Brimingham City, English Premier, 26, 17 games, 3 goals Dwight Pezzarossi (Guatemala), Racing Ferrol, Spanish 2, 23, 14 games, 3 goals Kevin Lisbie (Jamaica), Charlton, English Premier, 24, 15 games, 2 goals Anthony Rogier (T&T), Reading, English 1, 31, 18 games, 2 goals Jovan Kirovski (USA), Birmingham City, English Premier, 26, 10 games, 2 goals Trevor Benjamin (Jamaica), Leicheister City, England 1, 23, 17 games, 1 goal Ronald Gomez (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece 1, 27, 11 games, 1 goal Barry Hayles (Jamaica), Fullham, English Premier, 30, 9 games, 1 goal Marcus Gayle (Jamaica), Watford, English 1, 32, 18 games Paul Pescolido (Canada), Sheffield United, English 1, 31, 9 games Wyn Belotte (Canada), Angelholme, Sweden, 18, 7 games Winston Parks (Costa Rica), Ascoli, Serie B, 3 games Conor Casey (USA), Hannover, Bundesliga, 1 game Carlos Pavon (Honduras), Napoli, Serie B, 1 game Joe Max Moore (USA), Everton, English Premier Paolo Wanchope (Costa Rica), Manchester City, English Premier WIDE MIDFIELDERS[Canada – 6, USA – 5, Jamaica – 3, T&T –2, Honduras - 1, Costa Rica –1 ]: Richard Langley (Jamaica), Queens Park Rangers, English 2, 23, 21 games, 3 goals David Xausa (Canada), Livingston, Scotland, 26, 18 games, 3 goals Ricardo Gardner (Jamaica), Bolton, English Premier, 24, 15 games, 2 goals Ernie Stweart (USA), NAC Breda, Holland, 33, 15 games, 2 goals Anthony Sanneh (USA), Nurenberg, Bundesliga, 31, 15 games, 2 goals Jacob Thomas (USA), Eintracht, Bundesliga 2, 25, 9 gagmes, 2 goals John Thorrington (USA), Huddersfield Town, England 2, 23, 19 games, 1 goal Eddie Lewis (USA), Preston North End, England 1, 28, 18 games, 1 goal Ian Hume (Canada), Trammere Rovers, England 2, 19, 13 games, 1 goal Jerren Nixon (T&T), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 29, 3 games, 1 goal Ante Jazic (Canada), Rapid Vienna, Austria, 26, 21 games Paul Staltieri (Canada), Werder Bremen, Bundesliga, 25, 17 games Marco Reda (Canada), Songdal, Norway, 13 games Jamie Lawrence (Jamaica), Bradford City, England 1, 8 games Nial Thompson (Canada), Wycombe, English 2, 28, 3 games Evans Wise (T&T), Wacker, Bundesliga 2, 29, 2 games Maynor Suazo (Honduras), SV Salzburg, Austria Wilson Munoz (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS[Canada – 4, USA – 3, Costa Rica – 3, T&T – 3, Jamaica – 3, Mexico - 1]: Alonso Solis (Costa Rica), Brann, Norway, 24, 14 games, 4 goals Fernando Aguiar (Canada), Leiria, Portugal, 30, 12 games, 3 goals Robbie Russel (USA), Songdahl, Norway, 24 games, 1 goal Marc Birham (Canada), Queens Park Rangers, England 2, 24, 15 games, 1 goal Fizroy Simpson (T&T), Walsall, England 1, 32, 15 games, 1 goal Mauricio Solis (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece, 30, 11 games, 1 goal Stefan Migloriazi (USA), Swindon Town, England 2, 25, 19 games Claudio Reyna (USA), Sunderland, English Premier, 29, 11 games Darrell Powell (Jamaica), Birmingham City, English Premier, 31, 10 games Julio DeGuzman (Canada), Hanover 96, Bundesliga, 21, 9 games Walter Centeno (Costa Rica), AEK Athens, Greece, 28, 8 games Russel Lapatay (T&T), Glasgow Rangers, Scotland, 34, 7 games Jason Bent (Canada), Plymouth Argile, English 2, 25, 6 games Gerrado Torrado (Mexico), Sevilla, La Liga, 23, 2 games Jermaine Johnson (Jamaica), Bolton, English Premier, 22, 1 game Robert Scarlett (Jamaica), Spartak Moscow, Russia, 23, 1 game Brent Rahim (T&T), West Ham United, English Premier, 24 WIDE DEFENDERS [Canada – 6, USA – 5, Honduras - 1]: Chris Ponziak (Canada), Orebro, Sweden, 21, 23 games, 1 goal Michael Kluwoski (Canada), La Louvierre, Belgium, 21, 17 games, 1 goal Jim Brennan (Canada), Notingham Forrest, England 1, 25, 26 games Mark Rogers (Canada), Wycombe, English 2, 23, 18 games Steve Cherundolo (USA), Hannover 96, Bundesliga, 23, 17 games Cory Gibbs (USA), St. Pauli, Bundesliga 2, 22, 10 games Richard Hastings (Canada), GAK, Austria, 25, 9 games Frankie Hejduk (USA), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 28, 7 games Gregg Vanney (USA), Bastia, France, 28, 6 games Julio Suazo (Honduras), SV Salzburg, Austria, 24, 6 games John O’Brien (USA), Ajax, Holland, 25, 5 games DEFENDERS: [USA – 4, Jamaica – 4, Canada – 3, Costa Rica – 2, Honduras – 2, Mexico - 1] Jason DeVos (Canada), Wigan Athletic, England 2, 29, 24 games, 5 goals Daniel Imhoff (Canada), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 25, 21 games, 3 goals Kevin McKenna (Canada), Hearts, Scotland, 22, 22 games, 2 goals Darren Moore (Jamaica), West Bromwich Albion, English Premier, 24, 20 games, 1 goal Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Monoco, France, 23, 13 games, 1 goal Frank Sinclair (Jamaica), Leicheister City, England 1, 31, 19 games Gilberto Martinez (Costa Rica), Brescia, Serie A, 23, 15 games Mauricio Wright (Costa Rica), AEK Athens, Greece, 32, 11 games Danny Maddox (Jamaica), Shefield Wednsday, 35, 10 games Greg Berhalter (USA), Energie Cottubus, Bundesliga, 29, 7 games Samuel Cabrero (Honduras), Udinese, Serie A, 28, 4 games David Regis (USA), Troyes, France, 34, 4 games Grover Gibson (USA), FSV Mainz, Bundesliga 2, 24, 4 games Michael Johnson (Jamaica), Birmingham City, English Premier, 29, 2 games Charles Kazalauskas (USA), NEC, Holland, 20 Ivan Guerrero (Honduras), Coventry City, England 1, 25 GOALIES [USA – 3, T&T – 1, Canada –1]: Shaka Hislop (T&T), Portsmouth, England 1, 33, 26 games Brad Friedel (USA), Blackburn Rovers, English Premier, 31, 20 games Kasey Keller (USA), Tottenham, English Premier, 33, 20 games Marcus Hahnemann (USA), Reading City, English 1, 30, 19 games Lars Hisrshfield (Canada), Tottenham, English Premier, 24
A few more Canadian players have signed on with Swedish clubs over the past few weeks I believe... I will see if I can find the info... I believe Atiba Hutchinson has now signed with Osters IF in Sweden. Here is a list of Canadian players who are abroad... http://www.canadian-soccer.com/net/lists/abroad.htm Shaun Goater plays for Man City, and he is from Bermuda. http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/foot/ukie/1191.html
Good stuff Martin, thanks...of course you can substitute Brian McBride for Joe Max Moore at Everton, and Earnie Stewart isn't with NAC Breda anymore, he's coming to MLS. And Stefani Migliorzani is now with Swindon Town (Eng 2).
Changes made to original list: 1. Corrected Migs information 2. Added Goater 3. Added Richard Hastings and Wyn Belote for the Canadians. I did not add those Canadians who are on Reserves, youth or loans. Nor did I add the Canadians who play for another country. My list is accurate only through December 31, 2002. After that, I will add new entries such as McBride though the list will continue to contain those that were rostered in Europe for part of the 2002/2003 season like Stewart and Moore.
Just a few notes on Canada. Niall Thompson is no longer with Wycombe (though Mark Rogers still is). Canadian youngster Terry Dunfield is now playing first team with Bury in the English 3rd Division - he's a central midfielder. Martin Nash (formerly of Rochster Raging Rhinos in the A-league) has just signed with Macclesfield Town in the English 3rd Division - he's normally a wide-left midfielder. Rob Friend is a young Canuck striker who just signed with Moss in the Norwegian First Division. Adam Braz is a defender who just signed with Vasteras (sic?) in the Swedish First Division. To confirm what Canadian Supporter stated, 19-year old Atiba Hutchison has signed with Osters in the Swedish Premiere League. He is a central defensive midfielder (who I think will get called to play against the US on the 18th). These are first-team players. There are a whole bunch more in the youth ranks or reserves, but I guess that's for another list.
Re: Re: CONCACAF Abroad One more Canadian national team member that I don't think is there -midfielder Tam Nsaliwa plays first team for FC Saarbrucken in Germany. Incidentally, Hume & Xausa's are strikers, Reda is a central defender, there's no "i" at the end of Corrazzin, and its Julian De Guzman, rather than "Julio". (Sorry if that comes across as being nit-picky).
just give me the ones in la liga, il calccio and EPL(manchester- liverpool and arsenal or chelsea) the rest is rubish....no ofense intended. lets look for meaninful competition, not just numbers panama: dely valdez (malaga) mex: torrado(sevillas' pine bench) who else?
Torrado was a starter before the his injury. Up until a month or ago, Torrado was still injured. And he has been starting every game since.
So you consider the Bundesliga and the rest of the EPL rubbish? Either way, this is CONCACAF Abroad thread, which means all leagues should be accounted for, not just the big teams.
Wow! Thanks.. Nice piece of work.. I knew Canada had many players overseas but no idea it was that many..
Well that's true but still I have seen lots of them and they are quality players. How on earth do you develop them all in the cold clime of Canada with so few months to train? Are they mostly from BC?
Well they get April/May-October outdoors and the rest indoor (for coastal provinces, there's more outdoor soccer). Otherwise, many of the players going over to Europe have been part or are part of youth national teams which seem to have 2-3 camps a winter.
Actually, of all the players named above, the majority of them are from Ontario, with quite a few coming from B.C., some from Alberta and Quebec, and one from Nova Scotia. This is not surprising, as historically much of the make up of the national team has been from these Ontario (as the most populous province) and B.C. (a traditonal soccer hotbed).
Thanks for all the info.. Just don't let them get so good they knock the US out of a world cup spot someday! Other than that I wish them all the best even though Canada blew up the Baldwin Brothers!
A couple of comments. 1. I decided, due to a lack of time, to only go to second divisions for Italy, Germany, France and Spain. I went three levels in England, but not to Division 3 in England. 2. I wait until the site I use confirms someone is on the roster until I add them. That explains some of the new Canadian signings in Scandanavia. If they get in a game, I am sure they will make my list. 3. I don't mean to imply that the Canadians are the best simply because they have more players in Europe. The level of the league and the lack of a domestic alternative are certainly important factors.
Or just the ones without US/Canada players? Tough list to come up with. I didn't know there were this many players from the region abroad on decent sides.
Martin Fischer add these TNT players to your list: Clayton Ince - Crewe Alexandra, GK. Carlos Edwards (Wing), Hector Sam (Striker) and Dennis Lawerence (Defender) all play for Wrexham. Marvin Andrews - Livingston, Defender. Colin Samuel - Falkirk, Striker. Andra Charles - Chelsea Youth team, GK. Brent Rahim - West Ham United, Midfielder. Jason Norville - Watford, Midfielder.
Great work Martin. So good that I even had some doubts cleared up, I had thought that Aguirre had signed some Mexicans for Osasuna, from what I can see this isn't the case. Though I was sure there was someone there. Just a comment, perhaps you should specify league goals, as some have been scoring big in Cup games, which you have not included. Very good of you to find Pezzarossi at Racing Ferrol, Ante Razov's former team.
He was actually just released by the club. He is in Luton, though, hoping to sign a contract. http://www.whufc.com/whufcnews.asp?article=126720
I reckon that a big percentage of those Jamaicans are english born and bred .I never knew that Charltons Kevin Lisbie had played for Jamaica until I saw that list.They seem to be poaching more and more players .I bet they could play a full 11 of english born players. I also seem to recall watfords Micah Hyde playing for jamaica .... thankfully most of them are players who wouldnt get picked for england in a million years . I remember when one of those carribean islands tried to select Julian Joachim..they then realised that he had already played for england under-21's (at the last minute) ... The leader of the islands football federation got all upset and threatened not to vote for englands world cup bid .He should have concentrated on producing his own homegrown players instead of poaching other countries players... I bet the concacaf qualifiers will be interesting in the future .. All the carribean teams will be packed with english players ..A game like Trinidad vs. jamaica will be like an english lower divisions league game...
Ince and Marvin Andrews will be on the next version of my list. Rahim already is on the list, though apparently incorrectly Wrexham is in Division 3, which I am not including on my list. I am not including youth players. Falkirk is not in the Scottish Premier League, so I am not including it. My site list Norville as English, so unless he has been or is capped for T&T, he is outside my list.