Comparing the development of great young English players

Discussion in 'Premier League: News and Analysis' started by rymannryan, Nov 5, 2002.

  1. rymannryan

    rymannryan New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    N.N., Virginia
    I am wondering how far along players like Owen, Shearer, Fowler, and others were when they were 16 as compared to Wayne Rooney. I haven't followed the Premiership for many years so pardon my ignorance. BTW, I saw the goal Rooney scored against Leeds - very, very sweet, as well as the one against Arsenal.
     
  2. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Shearer scored a hattrick against Arsenal on his league debut at 17.

    Micheal Owen was established in the Premiership at 17, I'm sure Matt Clark can tell you about Owens career.
     
  3. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    By 17, Owen was an England international.
     
  4. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Michael Owen was 18 years and 59 days when he won his first cap against Chile in February 1998.

    Sven is interested in bringing Rooney into the full squad soon. Should be interesting to see if he can break Michael's record. Good luck to him.
     
  5. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001

    With any luck, Rooney could be the next Landon Donovon and play for his national team at the next WC. Rooney is full of potential.
     
  6. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Yeah, with any luck :rolleyes:
     
  7. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Landon Donovan?

    Nah

    Clint Mathis maybe but not LD.
     
  8. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Landon......who?
     
  9. gerr18

    gerr18 New Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    my sentiments exactly. :)
     
  10. Theo

    Theo New Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    Philadelphia, PA
    i think Robbie Fowler made his Liverpool debut fairly young (17? 16?), and i believe he scored 100 goals faster than anyone before him for LFC.

    someone who's a bit older than me can confirm that.
     
  11. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In his first 11 games for Leeds (at 17) Smith got a few goals and a couple assists.

    He did better than Rooney is doing now, who has 2 goals and 1 assist.

    Smith has had the best debut i would think....

    his first TOUCH in the premiership was a shot which ended up beating the keeper at the far post (from about 20 yards) No first touch to steady, just struck the ball.

    That was the equilizer at Anfield. Hasselbaink got 2 more and we won 3-1.
     
  12. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    Fowler made his pro debut at age 18, I believe. A League Cup match against either Fulham or Oldham. Scored one in the first leg, and then and unbelievable 5 (yes, five) in the return leg.

    Matt Clark was present to witness Robbie's rise, and could probably comment on this better than me. I know he also holds the record for quickest Premiership hattrick ever. 4 1/2 minutes against Arsenal. That was probably done at age 22 or so.
     
  13. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was fulham away.
     
  14. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    From soccernet.com

    Burst onto the Liverpool scene in September 1993 when he scored all five goals against Fulham in a League Cup match and swiftly made a name for himself as the best finisher in English football.
    Scored over thirty league goals in 1994/95, 1995/96 and 1996/97 to cement this reputation.

    Suffered a knee injury in the 1997/98 season and was out for many months.

    He returned for the 1998/99 season and grabbed eighteen goals, overshadowed by a disgraceful incident with Graeme Le Saux and a simulated cocaine sniff along the goal-line during a derby game with Everton which saw him banned for six matches at the end of the season.

    ...and then more about England and being "England's most natural finisher...
     
  15. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Clan,
    He's just some kid that bagged a few goals at the last World Cup. Anyone can do that, right? lol
     
  16. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    You mean like Norman Whiteside?
     
  17. el_urchinio

    el_urchinio Member

    Jun 6, 2002
    Or Michael Owen? Or Pele? Man, the arrogance of some of the American footy fans is stunning. A kid is setting Premiership alight at barely 17 and one chooses to compare him to someone who couldn't buy a game in Bundesliga at 20????
     
  18. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Anyone else notice that our resident Nobel Laureate, Wildman262, changed his favorite team on his profile?

    If you're going to be a glory-hunting little prick, try to make it less obvious.
     
  19. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    el urchinio, believe me, I know quality players. I've named the top 10 Premiership players on mulitple occasions. Would you like to see the list?

    I named Donovan, because he was a young lad that has had some success in the WC. Could Donovan play in the Premiership? Without a doubt.
     
  20. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Dr Wanker, what have I done to deserve such hostility directed at me? I enjoy many teams in Europe. Is it okay to change my favorite team or am I bound to it for life?
     
  21. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Ah, the certainties of life. Death, taxes, and Wildman leaving a pile of wit everywhere he posts.
     
  22. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    But that wouldn't necessarily make him brilliant - Jason Roberts plays in the Premiership.
    As do hundreds of others.
     
  23. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Earlier than the premiership i realise...but the Whiteside reference was quite obviously totally lost on him.
     
  24. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Clan, are you giving me stick? Not lost on me.
     
  25. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    If i give you me stick, how am i gonna get about :)
     

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