By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

    By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM

    In a plot twist worthy
    of the the worst of novels, the 1996 theft of the Cleveland Browns by the universally detested Art Modell may end up making it impossible for Don Garber to steal the Columbus Crew.

    Irony, thy name is SoccerDon.

    There Garber was yesterday in his ultra-luxe suite high above fifth avenue in New York, whistling a happy tune, deciding between the scampi and the scallops for lunch and getting ready for the MLS Board of Governors meeting where he's going to give the increasingly impotent owners their marching orders on which two cities they will grant the high privilege of handing over, collectively, a $300 million payday.

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    Plus, with Columbus finally out of the playoffs he was finalizing his trip to Toronto to attend the MLS Cup game without having to decide between a) lying about being stuck in traffic and b) trying to pretend that he doesn't hear 22,000 people loudly suggesting he perform anatomically impossible acts on himself.

    Then an obscure state legislator from Central Ohio named Mike Duffey (R - BiteMeDon) rolled a stink bomb into the Don's perfect day.

    It seems that Duffey discovered an obscure law dating from the 1996 outrage over Modell's craven betrayal which may wreck Don and Tony's plans for being named Kings of the SXSW parade next year. It's a very short, concise law so I'll quote it in full:

    Restrictions on owner of professional sports team that uses a tax-supported facility.

    No owner of a professional sports team that uses a tax-supported facility for most of its home games and receives financial assistance from the state or a political subdivision thereof shall cease playing most of its home games at the facility and begin playing most of its home games elsewhere unless the owner either:

    (A) Enters into an agreement with the political subdivision permitting the team to play most of its home games elsewhere;

    (B) Gives the political subdivision in which the facility is located not less than six months' advance notice of the owner's intention to cease playing most of its home games at the facility and, during the six months after such notice, gives the political subdivision or any individual or group of individuals who reside in the area the opportunity to purchase the team.

    Effective Date: 06-20-1996 .

    (emphasis mine)

    MAPFRE stadium sits on fully tax-abated land with well-below market rate rent and gleans considerable income from the state built and maintained paved parking lots surrounding the place. There's no question they're "tax-supported".

    Since MLS has already turned down a very legitimate $150 million offer for the Crew, there's no question that Columbus is fully prepared to pony up the cash tomorrow and shortly thereafter build the downtown stadium which Garber and Precourt claim the Crew needs to meet whatever ethereal "business metrics" they demand.

    However, as we all know, that's not what TheSoccerDon wants; he wants out of Columbus. Period.

    Now in point of fact this law - which nobody knew about until just yesterday but which, in another signal achievement of Don Garber's tenure at the helm of MLS, if it sticks could quickly sweep the land from sea to shining taxpayer-funded stadium - has not, we're told by the legal types, been through the courts yet and nobody can say for sure how it will play out.

    We can be fairly certain though that one of two things will happen here:

    1) Various Ohio courts - tough luck on that one, eh? - will decide that the Crew will stay right where it is, thanks

    2) An ugly, protracted legal battle which could take years to adjudicate will make a bunch of lawyers very rich and Don very unemployed.

    Of course, as per usual, MLS has no comment whatsoever. Their media office has spent the last couple months refusing to answer the phone and that's likely to continue. They ought to let them spend the Winter in Florida.

    However, from whatever bunker Fratass Tony is cowering in came this dispatch, without a header or a signature:

    “Precourt Sports Ventures has seen the public remarks made by State Rep. Mike Duffey and PSV will not have further comment at this time."

    Now in truth it would be hard to match Garber's craven public act of cowardice from last week's Eastern Conference semi-final match in Toronto when, after promising FoxSports that he would appear for a pregame interview with Alexi Lalas and "extensively" deal with questions surrounding the Crew, he then had his people tell them that he was "stuck in traffic" and wouldn't be appearing.

    (Their eyerolls were, however, well worth tuning in for)

    Apparently he was still "stuck in traffic" at halftime and during the postgame as well. Hell, Lalas would have gladly met him in the parking lot or the hotel bar or the SkyLounge at Toronto Pearson. Say what you want but Roger Goodell or Adam Silver or Rob Manfred, as arrogant as they are wouldn't dare pull a stunt like that.

    The problem may have been that, earlier that day, the Mayor of the City of Columbus sent Garber and Precourt a very nice letter offering various routes to a stadium solution and inviting them to talk with him. MLS/PSV sent an insulting one sentence response - without header or signature - basically inviting His Honor to F*ck himself and possibly that didn't fit DonnyG's carefully vetted "extensively" prepared comments.

    Who knows.

    One other result of Rep. Duffey's letter to the Ohio AG will almost certainly be the torpedoing of Cincinnati's shot at being named one of the two expansion teams to be announced next week.

    It looked very much like they were a front-runner, but a big part of that was always going to be a tacit statement about replacing Columbus with another Ohio team, thus proving that it's not about flyover country but "business metrics". However, with the Columbus legal issues up in the air it says here they're not going to give Cincy a damned thing.

    In addition, they're going to want to take a serious look at locating a team in a state where it appears the law says they can never be removed. That takes away a big chunk of the league's (read: Garber's) power over a team, something they're not likely to cede without serious thought.

    So unless the league is going to change their minds about not wanting to play at cavernous Ford Field in Detroit, this likely means "Welcome to MLS, Sacramento".

    We'll look forward to seeing you play the Crew for many years to come.

    Over the past few weeks I've heard the same question from a number of people which, to summarize, goes something like: "Archer, you ignorant slut, why do you keep blaming Garber for this mess? Isn't it really Precourt doing all of this?"

    By way of an answer:

    In Austin Texas there's a lawyer named Richard Suttle and I'll let the Austin Chronicle describe who he is in a 2010 article entitled "Suttle as a kick in the head":

    Better count your chickens, Austinites, because Richard Suttle is loose in the henhouse again. Everyone's favorite developers' attorney is at City Council today ...

    Now, the very fact that Richard Suttle is involved in this project should give everyone pause. He's the developers' equivalent of criminal attorney Roy Minton: the guy you go to when you're guilty, when you want to get something approved or subsidized that you really don't deserve."


    This is the guy who appeared before Austin City Council last month getting them to agree to do an "inventory" of city parks to see which ones might have enough space for a soccer stadium.

    Now in most places, if City officials want to know something like this, they call up the Parks Commissioner and ask him to fax over a list. Maybe 20 minutes, tops.

    But apparently not in Austin. In Austin they need to send scout cars up and down the streets, tracking down signs that say "City Park" on them because, apparently, the Parks Department doesn't have a sheet of paper which lists, you know, City Parks.

    The question is, who does Suttle work for down there? Well, here's a letter from Don:

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    Garber himself says that Suttle works for him. Precourt, PSV and the Crew are not mentioned.

    And here, via the Austin City Clerk's office, and the indispensable Massive Report, is a list of registered lobbyists working in that city, all of whom are employed by Suttle's law firm - Armbrust & Brown - and all of whom report that they are working on behalf of "Major League Soccer, 450 Fifth Ave. New York:

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    There's lots more, like the PR firm Elizabeth Christian Public Relations, which has been retained to represent this whole charade down there - they admit to having hosted a series of "get acquainted meetings" for city officials and soccer reps, although the real question, as posed by Massive report is:

    Does MLS have similar operations in any of the 12 expansion candidate cities?

    And the answer of course is no. None at all. 12 other cities are knocking themselves out, spending significant amounts of money and time and other resources in an effort to land an MLS team. Meanwhile, Austin Texas is doing nothing, asking for nothing and contributing nothing: Don Garber is spending large amounts of league money and time trying to force the Columbus Crew down their throats.

    It's insane.

    However, the really instructive point is the date on Garber's letter: August 7.

    Note that the MLS Board of Governors met at the All Star Game on August 2, and within a week MLS, in addition to giving Suttle what amounts to MLS credentials also registered two proposed team names including the monumentally unique and exciting "Austin FC". Meanwhile, PSV started the "MLS2ATX" website ("a community of supporters working together to bring Major League Soccer to Austin, TX.") and at least two astroturf twitter accounts purporting to be run by grassroots supporters.

    (Deadspin called these astroturfing efforts "oafish" and I can't top that so I won't try, except to note that, since the people running them apparently didn't know how to turn "location" off on a Twitter, everyone saw that they were all being run out of Columbus Ohio, unquestionably by Crew employees working at MAPFRE Stadium offices.)

    As I said, all this and much more happened immediately after the August 2 BoG meeting, making it appear very much like something was decided then that gave Precourt the green light.

    So today as the suddenly gutless, suspiciously silent owners gather in Toronto - I hope someone makes sure Don gets there in time - they're going to get to review the fruits of that decision.

    Now there's a wall well-worth being a fly on.


    * BigSoccer Commandatore @Smithsoccer1721 informs me that an unknown local citizen was the one who told Rep, Duffey about the law.

    (*UPDATE* Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine says that after a review of the applicable law,
    "should ownership of the Columbus Crew initiate a move of the team without complying with Ohio law, I am prepared to take the necessary legal action under this law to protect the interests of the state of Ohio..")
     
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Discussion in 'Articles' started by Bill Archer, Dec 7, 2017.

    1. y-lee-coyote

      y-lee-coyote Member+

      Dec 4, 2012
      Club:
      --other--

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Is that still protected even if they accepted money "with conditions?" Seems an agreement to comply with law would be a condition to accepting public monies.
       
    2. Sport Billy

      Sport Billy Moderator
      Staff Member

      May 25, 2006

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      As I said earlier, if they made it part of the contract, they're in trouble.
       
    3. Sport Billy

      Sport Billy Moderator
      Staff Member

      May 25, 2006

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
       
    4. POdinCowtown

      POdinCowtown Member+

      Jan 15, 2002
      Columbus

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Ok, well the city of Columbus owned Crew wouldn't be banned from moving to Austin, they'd simply choose not to do so. Problem solved.

      More seriously, the interstate commerce clause has no bearing on takings. Perhaps you are unaware that land or other property is frequently taken by local governments for the benefit of companies engaged in interstate commerce or from companies engaged in interstate commerce. Your aunt Sally's craft store may take mail orders, ie be engaged in interstate commerce. That doesn't make her immune to all the various local, regional, and state authorities.

      Likewise, if the Crew are determined to have received public support (they have), then the Art Modell law comes in to play. It doesn't matter if the contract refers to it or not.

      OSU and the city cleaned up the campus area bar scene about 20 years ago by using eminent domain vs not only the real estate where the bars were located but the businesses, their contents, licenses, and tangible and intangible property. That was done precisely to keep them from relocating a block or two away. As many of the students are from out of state, the bars were engaged in interstate commerce per Heart of Atlanta. Didn't matter in the least.
       
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    5. Sport Billy

      Sport Billy Moderator
      Staff Member

      May 25, 2006

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      It's not that the companies are engaged in interstate activities. Nearly all companies are engaged in interstate activity. And yes, they need to follow state and local law.

      However, the very activity this law is trying to regulate, movement to another city (in this case another state), is not under the authority of the state, only the Feds have authority to regulate this activity.

      All based upon intrAstate activity and totally irrelevant to the case at hand.
       
    6. Adrian

      Adrian Member

      Columbus Crew
      England
      May 9, 1999
      Plain City, OH, USA
      Nat'l Team:
      England

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Mike Duffey already addressed this by pointing out that the law does not talk about moving, just where they play their home games. They are free to move to Austin, they just have to be at Mapfre for a couple of hours a week.

      940384412512014336 is not a valid tweet id
       
    7. kgilbert78

      kgilbert78 Member+

      Borussia Mönchengladbach
      United States
      Dec 28, 2006
      Cowlumbus, OH
      Club:
      Borussia Mönchengladbach
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Maybe they just send up a reserve team. Not like they are paying that much for the stadium in the first place. The cost has likely already been depreciated and the rent is cheap.
       
    8. Adrian

      Adrian Member

      Columbus Crew
      England
      May 9, 1999
      Plain City, OH, USA
      Nat'l Team:
      England

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      No Ohio judge would fall for that.
       
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    9. Cavan9

      Cavan9 Member

      Nov 16, 2011
      Silver Spring, MD
      Club:
      DC United
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      And Kartik Krishnaiyer is wrong again. Who'd a thunk it?
       
    10. POdinCowtown

      POdinCowtown Member+

      Jan 15, 2002
      Columbus

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Well, no the fact there is precedent for taking intagible property such as names, history, records, etc is now established in Ohio. If you are familiar with the litigation regarding the Colts leaving Baltimore or the Raiders leaving Oakland, it was an open question then.

      Serving customers from out of state makes an establishment engaged in interstate commerce according to Heart of Atlanta. Didn't matter when the city came to take the business. The city had to pay a higher price for the business since they were in effect closing it down rather than letting it move down the street but they willingly paid it.

      Ohio AG DeWine announced today that his office had completed their analysis of whether or not ORC 9.67 applied to the Crew and determined that indeed it did. Not a surprise but confirmation that Precourt won't be able to move the Crew without offering it for sale or being involved in litigation.
       
    11. POdinCowtown

      POdinCowtown Member+

      Jan 15, 2002
      Columbus

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      But they probably wouldn't be able to field a "real" Crew team in Austin in addition to the fake Crew team in Columbus. At the least the expansion teams would be demanding their money back.
       
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    12. west ham sandwich

      Feb 26, 2007
      C-bus
      Club:
      Columbus Crew
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      There's no way that get allowed by the law.

      I'm no lawyer, but my guess is that the law won't stand up in the long run if it goes to court. But that doesn't mean it won't be a big hurdle before then. As of now, the law is the law and the Ohio executive branch can execute it as they see fit. From my rudimentary understanding, MLS and/or PSV will have to be the ones to initiate a lawsuit to have the Ohio law struck down. Perhaps they will try to use interstate commerce, no clue. But, if the State of Ohio decides to enforce the law I'd say odds are pretty good that there will be an injunction against moving the team and you're talking probably a few years at least that they will be legally barred from moving the team before they can get the law over-turned.
       
    13. west ham sandwich

      Feb 26, 2007
      C-bus
      Club:
      Columbus Crew
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      it's not just the expansion teams. Unless it's the Crew playing in MLS in Columbus, it won't be complying with the law.
       
    14. POdinCowtown

      POdinCowtown Member+

      Jan 15, 2002
      Columbus

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Why wouldn't the law stand up? It's simply a specialized version of a taking, which governments do all the time. It has to be done for a public purpose and with just compensation paid. Check and check. This law is a lot less vulnerable than other regulations that reduce the value of a property with no compensation paid such as rent control, zoning, environmental regulations, etc. And those are usually upheld.
       
    15. Sport Billy

      Sport Billy Moderator
      Staff Member

      May 25, 2006

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Here is the law:
      9.67 Restrictions on owner of professional sports team that uses a tax-supported facility.

      No owner of a professional sports team that uses a tax-supported facility for most of its home games and receives financial assistance from the state or a political subdivision thereof shall cease playing most of its home games at the facility and begin playing most of its home games elsewhere unless the owner either:

      (A) Enters into an agreement with the political subdivision permitting the team to play most of its home games elsewhere;

      (B) Gives the political subdivision in which the facility is located not less than six months' advance notice of the owner's intention to cease playing most of its home games at the facility and, during the six months after such notice, gives the political subdivision or any individual or group of individuals who reside in the area the opportunity to purchase the team.

      Two main problems with this law.

      First, the law is trying to restrict interstate commerce. Control over interstate commerce is given to Congress, not the States.

      Second, the bolded portion results with the Government taking, not for public use, but for private use.
       
    16. POdinCowtown

      POdinCowtown Member+

      Jan 15, 2002
      Columbus

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      You keep repeating your interstate commerce clause argument but without citing any federal law that preempts state regulation of sports leagues. So how about it? The interstate commerce clause merely gives Congress power to regulate commerce among the states. It doesn't disable state regulation of commerce unless Congress expressly preempts it. Congress has done so in some cases such as storage of nuclear waste and states trying to keep other state's trash out of their landfills. But there's no federal law I'm aware of that stops sports franchises from being regulated or taken.

      The public purpose in a privately owned Crew would be to keep attracting visitors to the city or not letting the city's image suffer. That's why cities run tv tourism campaigns supported by local taxes. Combine that with the matches being open to the public and that hurdle is easily cleared. In Ohio, it's common for a government to create a private entity ( a redevelopment corporation) and give them the government's ED powers when cleaning up an area. We have several of those currently in Columbus. And if a court holds that ORC 9.67 must also comply with Ohio's post-Kelo tightening of eminent domain, Columbus has a city owned municipal electric company which can take the team, then dispose of it as surplus property to a private owner.
       
    17. y-lee-coyote

      y-lee-coyote Member+

      Dec 4, 2012
      Club:
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      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      I am not an attorney, but it would certainly appear to me they are only regulating those who take their money.

      Was the law in place when they took the money? If so why does it not apply? The suggestion the state is trying to regulate interstate commerce seems specious. The state is regulating fidelity with respect to public monies.

      Is "quid pro quo" not a legal thing? The "repayment" on public monies is the ability to buy the subsidized entity in the event the entity decides to cease operations in the area.

      It may not be a standard repayment plan, but it seems the state is operating within reason as an agent for the public. If you do not like those conditions you do not have to take state funds, problem solved.

      I am sure there is an important legal tenet I am missing here, but it all seems very simple. If Crew did in fact take public monies they should be held accountable.
       
    18. Timon19

      Timon19 Member+

      Jun 2, 2007
      Akron, OH

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      So old people can't troll?

      I know the guy has been around a long time, but since this whole episode, he's been pretty uncritically echoing several of the astroturfers' talking points and went so far as to create an entire thread with a breathless title misrepresenting those generic, physically unlikely stadium renderings with zero allocation for parking as something more serious than they are.
       
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    19. Robbiegoal

      Robbiegoal Member

      Sep 20, 1999
      Columbus
      Club:
      Columbus Crew
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM

      Kind of like Cincy's expansion bid this round. :cool:
       
    20. Cincy Liverpool fan

      Fc Cincinnati
      Jun 16, 2015
      Cincinnati, USA
      Club:
      Cincinnati Kings

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Columbus vs Cincinnati, hell is real, USL. Lets go!
       
    21. athletics68

      athletics68 Member+

      Dec 12, 2006
      San Diego & San Jose
      Club:
      San Jose Earthquakes
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Starting to wonder if that might be one of the big hangups for Cincy. Not just the Crew situation, but the law that's exacerbating the situation from the league's POV.
       
    22. Sport Billy

      Sport Billy Moderator
      Staff Member

      May 25, 2006

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      You are essentially arguing the dormant commerce clause - that a state is free to pass legislation that effects interstate commerce as long as there is no federal legislation stopping it. While generally that is true, it is not applicable in cases like the one at hand where the state legislation discriminates against or inappropriately burdens interstate commerce.
      Here, the state is doing both. It is discriminating against non-Ohioans by giving a preference towards Ohioans. It is also burdening interstate commerce by limiting the potential buyers to the seller - namely, he cannot sell out-of-state until he gives in-state first dibs.

      This legislation is violative of the commerce clause by its very nature. There doesn't need to be a pre-emptive Federal law. The Commerce Clause itself preempts these actions.
       
    23. kgilbert78

      kgilbert78 Member+

      Borussia Mönchengladbach
      United States
      Dec 28, 2006
      Cowlumbus, OH
      Club:
      Borussia Mönchengladbach
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      And---it really doesn't matter what we all say here (unless one of you is a Supreme Court Justice). If the law is put into play by the State of Ohio, it will be adjudicated--and then we'll know. Until then? Guesses--WAGs at best.
       
    24. POdinCowtown

      POdinCowtown Member+

      Jan 15, 2002
      Columbus

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Ohio is only giving Ohioans a preference because the team accepted public support from Ohio. The team was perfectly free to relocate in 1999 before they accepted public support. Since the law was already on the books at the time, the team should be presumed knowledgeable of it and voiced no objection to it when entering into an advantageous lease.

      If the Crew is sold, it's likely to be to an ownership group which would have to include some locals but not necessarily exclusively locals. If Les Wexner buys it (richest local guy, not known to be interested in owning the team), he could be counted as either local or an out of stater since he owns homes all over the country (New York, Palm Beach, Aspen, etc).

      And again your commerce clause argument fails to recognize that a forced sale would be an exercise of state sovereignty in the form of a taking. When the Raiders and Colts were targeted for eminent domain there was some question about whether a sports team was subject to it. The Ohio Art Modell law provides clarity on that point.
       
    25. west ham sandwich

      Feb 26, 2007
      C-bus
      Club:
      Columbus Crew
      Nat'l Team:
      United States

      Columbus Drops the Bomb on MLS, and Don's Dirty Hands

      By Bill Archer on Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM
      Again, not a lawyer. Just seems to me that following the logic, any business that gets a tax abatement could then open itself up to being seized by the government. Not sure SCOTUS would want to open that potential can of worms, if it were to get that far.
       

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