Colombian National Team General Thread

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by sidspaceman, May 18, 2015.

  1. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    The fact that James didn't have a club or prepare for the World Cup should be all she wrote tbh, there is no way he is going to be more serious or dedicated after the World Cup and for a cycle, so he should be dropped and not called. If he's in a club and training and on top form sure call him for the COPA, but the only way to get that is to probably drop him, and we should try other guys.
     
  2. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Rios! Better defensive 1v1 and has more physical attributes than Lerma and infinitly better on the ball, just tell him to sit deeper, I've seen him do that with us and Benfica under Mourinho.
     
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  3. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Rios was our worst player every time he came on tho
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Maybe at club level but within Lorenzo’s system Rios has digressed.
     
  5. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member+

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    As long as James is a source of revenue for the FCF and sponsors there will be pressure to keep him in the team at the expense of everything else. We will see if Lorenzo continues and what his call ups are for the friendlies.
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    James has to do the honorable thing and retire.
     
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  7. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think we can play the Villus high press tomorrow with players readily available. We just chose to bet on James because of what he did at the Copa and the last two qualifiers.

    But if he isnt giving you victory margins sufficient to allow players to rest, you are gonna wear out the team if minutes accumulate.
     
  8. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I thought Rios was fine in his sub appearances and looked especially sharp when we finally got to see him paired with Puerta.
     
  9. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This!
     
  10. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Not from what I saw. He made some really bad decisions defensively and was late to react. Also made it that Puerta had to track back and play more defensive more often which takes away from his game.
     
  11. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Rios really wasn't that bad, look at his defensive duels, Lerma gets a pass for barely doing anything all tournament, he was sitting and barely participating when we had possession and did fine but he wasn't exactly ya stand out player or offered much. The standard we have for Lerma and James is basically they're bad they start, they do nothing they start, they have a good game and their praised as the saviors, its really a big bias for these guys and realistically we still need to replace them if we want to take another step forward.
     
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  12. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don't like Rios playing as a DMF. I prefer him playing as a CM. He's more effective with a DM behind him.
     
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  13. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    agree but we don't have any good enough CDM
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Solis can be that guy. Maybe the Orozco kid one day.
     
  15. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Given how we play I just don't want to dedicate a place in the xi to someone who can't contribute to possession or build up anymore.

    We don't need to. You watch most of these WC games and a lot of teams don't anymore.
     
  16. HTOWNKING

    HTOWNKING Member

    Mar 22, 2009
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Solis is hyped up by us only... he is not that good.
     
  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    People said the same thing about Puerta.
    I do not care who hypes him up. I trust my own two eyes.
     
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  18. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah, but you watch him play and it's super awkward lately which is weird because he was so smooth when he was younger at Nacional!
     
  19. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Who said that about Puerta? Don’t remember any of that
     
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  20. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Puerta was really good and the leader of the U20, those guys typically are flagged and given chances for good reason within the system. Solis hasn't had the same prominence and isn't given chances, but there is a good prospect there but still we need to bring him in. Rios I know what his skillset is, we don't even necessarily need a pure CDM, both Rios and Puerta typically play in a double pivot give either one freedom to move forward with a a fluid midfield, when we don't have Lerma and James our midfield would be much more dynamic not having to cover for specific deficiencies, that makes us much harder to play against.
     
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  21. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Even with all that

    we still need to improve upfront. Gotto score open play goald
     
  22. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    If we want more goals we probably need to play an actual wide forward and give up some control in midfield, think that all comes from the midfield and without James offering much offensively I don't see a reason to carry him anymore. Play Gomes wide and bring Arias central, or play Arias there still and have him hold that flank more. Realistically the biggest reason we didn't score more goals this tournament was largely down to Diaz, he had chances and he was our star and the guy who plays were designed to end at his feet and he was offside or not effective, so in our system as set up now we kind of got what we wanted often but Diaz was just not effective. If we want to change the system and style the best way to do that is to limit the bodies in midfield and hold better spacing in the 3 forwards vs what we're doing now with 2 forwards and a fullback making late runs on the right.
     
  23. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Europeans who comment on players were saying he was just meh.
    I trust what I see on the field. Solis is a future starter for the Seleccion.
     
  24. HTOWNKING

    HTOWNKING Member

    Mar 22, 2009
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never did... he was the captain of the U20.. he's been underrated and it was upsetting because only 2nd league teams wanted him.

    Solis is another version of Cabal
     
  25. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    You said Solis is only hyped up by us. Now you are saying he is Cabal who was hyped up by Europeans and got transferred to Juve because of that hype.

    Whatever. I saw Cabal immediately and knew he was a younger, bit more flexible version of Tesillo. That was his ceiling and he could still be useful in qualifying since LB depth sucks.

    Solis is something quite different. The way he ended the season at Birmingham was pretty solid and his role was established. He was a decent link between the back line and midfield. Sometimes even looking like a fifth defender in the back line. We can use that in the near future.
     

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