Colombian National Team General Thread

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  1. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So USA has been announced as the host for the 2024 Copa America...
     
  2. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    HUGE news! So exciting both as a fan and for the progress of the Sport here.
     
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  3. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    so…. Qatar is corruption but US hosting 2 copa americas in 5 years when they are not even playing in that federation is what?

    they won’t even play fking gold cups in Mexico!!!
     
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  4. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I wouldn't call it corruption; the US is a mainstream region and the melting pot of the nation's typically in the Copa america and this becomes neutral ground for South American teams. Not only that but its size and timing following the last few copa America's isn't that surprising why it's favored again to host a big edition of Copa America.
     
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  5. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I call bs on that is corruption pure and simple. You don’t think the mob boss fed heads didn’t get a little something something for this?
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It has nothing to do with corruption.
    It has all to do with money.

    CONMEBOL was hit hard during COVID. USA and Mexican Television money is just too difficult to turn down. And the USA has the infrasturcture and the Latino American diaspora to host and get full stadiums for many games of the tournament.

    Not too many South American teams wanted to host a 16 team tournament and none thought it would be profitable in the stands.
     
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  7. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Fox already had the TV to the 2024 Copa so Conmebol won’t be seeing any extra from that.
     
  8. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    What about tickets?
     
  9. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This is horrible..

    I am not naive.. this is about money, but This Is still phucked up.
     
  10. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Bidding war between Telemundo and Univision will bring in money though.
     
  11. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We getting a cut of the ticket money this time. 2016 left such a bad taste that Conmebol made sure that the USSF isn’t the host but that Concacaf is.
     
  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The "bad taste" was kinda justified and self-inflicting because CONMEBOL was under investigation for some pretty shady things they did.
     
  13. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    There may be corruption but I think this is straight economics.

    All the FAs and regional orgs stand to make more by selling out NFL stadiums at prices in dollars and having a cut of US and Mexican TV rights than having the tournament anywhere in LATAM AND it gives them a dry run experiencing the stadiums where 2026 will be played. With that money you hope they improve the sporting infrastructure and hire better coaches, etc which should be their aim...

    Ecuador just gave them the opp by pulling out.
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    People have to remember the last Copa was played in front of empty stadiums in Brasil with no buzz or excitement other than Messi getting his first trophy.

    A Copa like this will simply compensate for that $$$.
     
  15. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This is going to be a huge event. With the sport tipping here and WC two years later. I'm super excited.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yup.
    I mentioned in another post in another forum around here that living in the USA is going to be great for futbol this cycle. Copa America 2024, 32 team Club World Cup (possibly) 2025, World Cup Playoff tournament 2025, World Cup 26.
    That's a lot of great things to save up money and travel for. Great for growing the sport and just great because USA knows how to make big events spectacular for the most part.



    I will say I do empathize with South American fans and traditionalists who want it to be in South America. Also people around here who wanted it to be in Colombia. That was my preference too.

    But having it in the USA only helps Colombia not hurts. It is the next best thing to hosting in my mind. So many Colombiian fans will show up and represent.
     
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  17. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    well being shady in 2016 cost the USSF this time.
     
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  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I don't know about that or what you are pertaining to.

    USSF got exactly what they wanted out of the deal they initiated with the talks between the two confederations.

    Sharing a bit of the revenue is not really a loss when they get to play competition in training for a World Cup as a dress rehearsal for hosting the biggest event. IT is a win/win compared to the alternatives.
     
  19. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    in 2016 they made 120 million this time only 20 million.
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Being able to play competitive games in a Copa America against World Class talent when the alternative is friendlies and CONCACAF competition is worth more than 100 million dollars. Especially when marketing and advertising come into play.
    It will also be good in the long run when they host the World Cup.
     
  21. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why not have it in Qatar or Saudi Arabia if you want money.

    US loves to cry corruption then shit like this happens
     
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  22. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Meh I like it here
     
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  23. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Except there is nothing overtly corrupt about this. The two feds decided to have a joint tournament and all parties are better off for it.

    There MAY be something shady on how those profits get cut up (which did happen with the USSF in 2016), but I doubt we see a repeat of that given how much coverage there was of that.

    This is not comparable with Qatar - they had to change the timing of the WC for that to even happen! In this case, Ecuador had to back out, Brasil just hosted the last two and really only, maybe, Colombia were another viable host given all the unrest around SA at the moment whether economic or social.
     
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  24. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Very decent team. Campuzano and Yilmar Velasquez holding the midfield with Borrero drifting wherever he feels. Cucho and Valoyes seem like a very important threat in the wings. I hope to see Ruiz, Castaño and Santi Moreno at least for 30 minutes, really like the way they play.
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  25. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah. I am very curious what we see. Valoyes has never looked loose for the NT, I'd love for him to get comfortable today.
     

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