Colombian National Team General Thread

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  1. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Also Chile apparently are gonna appeal the decision but I doubt this will process any time soon; Peru will still have their match against Australia in a few days.
     
  2. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Actually TAS tribunals can be pretty fast (think of the Russian case at the Olympics) but I agree it's unlikely the appeal will work.
     
  3. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Watch, day before Peru vs Australia and suddenly Ecaudor disqualified lol.

    But yeah I don't know how significant this can be if they do go in Chile's favor.
     
  4. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #6829 Rickdog, Jun 11, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2022
    According to our Federation of football president, they are waiting to see FIFA's files on respect to the reasons why FIFA took that decision, which will become available to the parts involved, in about 7-10 days, after which Chile will have about 3 more days to file an appeal to FIFA, which will be seen by the same judges of FIFA that saw this case, to make a final FIFA call on the matter. Most likely, they will not change their view, so it's mostly paperwork done within the FIFA level, that must be done before making a claim to the CAS (court of arbitration of sports).

    Colombia only has a chance to take Ecuador's place at the WC, if FIFA decides it (not the CAS).
    When the case is at FIFA level, in practice it is one Federation vs. another Federation, with FIFA making a judgement call.

    The CAS ruling over a case is above FIFA's authority, and it is unappealable.

    The one thing which you guys will probably not like, is that if the CAS decides to accept Chile's claim, the only possible beneficiary of that call will be the federation, which presented the appeal at the CAS.
    In this case would be Chile vs. FIFA, with the CAS making the last judgement call.
     
  5. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    With FIFA's current ruling, it's imposible for that to happen.

    The match between Peru vs Australia will go 100 % as originally planned.

    If by any chance Chile's appeal at FIFA, or eventually at the CAS, finally is aproved, as it will come long after the playoff is played, Peru will not have a say this time, over Ecuador's spot at the WC.
     
  6. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    When it gets to the CAS (TAS in french), there have been many rulings against FIFA's calls over diferent cases.

    If the Chilean Federation presents a good legal defence to its interests, perfectly backed up, has a good chance to get what it wants.

    As a diference to FIFA, the CAS takes all its decisions over legal matters, not giving any importance to monetary or interested party issues.
    FIFA on the other side, gives a big importance to the monetary and its convenient aspect, in the cases it sees.

    This is the main reason why FIFA has decided to accept the ruling of the CAS over its decisions, to make this sensitive matters more transparent, specially to massive media, as before in the past when there wasn't an Independent legal body over them, they were acused of lots of corruption within the organization, and practices very similar to those propper of organized crime, and at FIFA currently they are very worried of this (remember FIFA-gate, or what has come to Blatter, Platini, and other high officials at present times)
     
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  7. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Peru and Colombia not making themselves party to the case is still bizarre to me.

    FIFA not actually releasing any reasoning for their decision and allowing the Peru playoff to go forward before an appeal can be filed is just lame if your timings are right.

    I struggle with the media coverage that Castillo and Ecuador are vindicated by the ruling. There is a difference between wanting qualification to take place on the pitch (as seems to have motivated FIFA and public sentiment) and the question of whether the FEF violated the rules by fielding an ineligible player. There should be some consequence even if it's money or exclusion from future qualification.
     
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  8. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Peru is so bad…. Watching the playoff game and them knocking us out of the World Cup is soul crushing…..

    At least In 2006 and 2010 man Uruguay had one hell of a team and ok it hurt but at least they could rep SA
     
  9. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    are they so bad or is the weather 2 hot?
     
  10. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I completely forgot about this playoff match...is it that bad?
     
  11. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    They actually going to penalties...I seriously can't imagine how we would do...
     
  12. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Under Rueda or with no coach :)

    with Rueda just as bad…… with no coach 87-0 haha.

    both teams are basically playing for pks
     
  13. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Damn Peru failed on their last penalty. Only 4 of the South American teams go to the world cup this edition.
     
  14. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    WTF Peru! Seriously! Has Conmebol ever lost the playoff before?
     
  15. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Uruguay to Australia
     
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  16. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    These are strange times....
     
  17. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Yes. 2 times before :

    Bolivia vs. Hungary for the 1978 WC
    Uruguay vs. Australia for the 2006 WC

    Shit happens, this time was Peru's turn.
     
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  18. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Such a bummer.
     
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  19. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But peru best us 1-0 in quilla
     
  20. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Meanwhile the crazy competition that is the UEFA Nation's League is nothing short of entertaining!

    Seriously these upsets and competitive results as a whole is amazing!
     
  21. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Oh man. Every time someone brings up that game I relive us subbing in Diego Chara in the most important game of qualifying and playing Ospina despite his obviously being hurt.... Dear God, why!
     
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  22. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Final nail in the coffin but it only mattered because we had such long goalless draws...Zapata's miss against Uruguay hurts me the most because that could have been it.
     
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  23. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I mean how many sitters did we miss. We remember Duvan's because he was on a dry spell... But el Rifle in La Paz... Borja's point blank tap in to the Peruvian keeper when he could have tapped straight too...

    Everybody gets caught up on Valoyes miss, but we had already missed so many in that game alone. Rueda had awful selection but his biggest sin was creating a locker room completely void of confidence.
     
  24. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    And of course Gareca becomes available the day before we introduce Lorenzo!
     
  25. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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