Colin Clark's chances at USMNT?

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  1. SoccaJ

    SoccaJ Member

    Colorado Rapids
    Jun 25, 2007
    Firestone, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, bored at work tonight I was looking through US Soccer highlights on YouTube (I just can't get enough of Feilhaber's goal against Mexico in the Gold Cup!)

    Anyway, looking through the vids and reading the list of players Bradley is bringing in against Mexico in a few days got me thinking -

    How exciting does the young core up top look for the USMNT future???

    Adu, Edu, Bradley, Altidore - how freakin awesome!

    So, it got me thinking.....what about Colin Clark? Any chance we'll see him in a USMNT camp sometime in the future?
     
  2. ManU62280

    ManU62280 New Member

    Dec 2, 2004
    Colorado
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My gut reaction is that he won't be in the picture any time soon if at all. You have DMB and Convey as left wingers. Before getting hurt DMB was getting good playing time with a team in the CL and Convey has been able to get back into the lineup at Reading. Clark would have to have one hell of season to start getting noticed. 2 goals and 2 assists in 18 games won't cut it.
     
  3. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    Dead on. He'd have to really take it to the next level - to the point where you'd say - holy sheet - that guy is the real deal - to get noticed. He could have it in him though. I haven't been this excited about a young Rapids player since Ross Paule <-- But that didn't work out so well in the end. Certainly the odds aren't with him - USMNT not an easy feet for sure.
     
  4. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This time last year I'd have agreed with ManU62880, but we've yet to see what Beasley can do post injury. Convey doesn't seem to have come all the way back, and even then he seemed to have a mental block with the national team.

    Even then, Beasley has always been the guy criticized for the appearance of lacking skill, but he gets it done. Convey's just the opposite, he seems to have the appearance of technical skills, but doesn't deliver.

    Clark would have to turn heads this season to make it happen. It's mostly about beating out the second level competition. I don't think it's out of the question. Clark plays both sides of the ball better than all of the second level competition, he got better pace than any others, and he can't ever be accused of disappearing.

    Here's the current establishment competition:
    Mapp - slow, doesn't play both sides of the ball well, disappears.
    Davis - same as above
    Beasley - injured
    Convey - Recovered, but needs to translate Europe into performance.
     
  5. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    Also missing from that list: Stuart Holden's on the final roster for the game against Mexico. Clark's gotta pass him up too before he starts getting consideration, and considering how much Houston as a team elevates Holden's profile, it could be hard to do.

    If Clark keeps improving at the same pace he did from last season, I bet he gets capped eventually. But the odds of him becoming a mainstay are pretty slim.
     
  6. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I didn't even notice Holden on there, which goes to show the value of playing a role for a champion v. a loser.

    I think you're right though a cap seems possible, mainstay seems slim. I do feel that the only real mainstay is Beasley, and it all rests on his recovery. Clark may be one of the few with the potential to start peaking when the team needs him.
     
  7. dismemberment

    dismemberment Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i think he could if your playing well bradley reconizes it being he took gome n beckermen last year he will be looking at the rapids. If our left side in team usa fails they will be looking for that spark plug. 2 years he should have a spot on team usa tho
     
  8. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, Clark should secure regular 1st choice selection to the Rapids!!!
     
  9. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cap tie him now! Ohh wait, he's American.
     
  10. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    It seems to me that Clark is first choice. Who else is gonna start? Niko? Did anyone not notice that he started for half the season at left mid with abysmal results? Burciaga, a defender or Hildensomething, another defender?

    It seems that people think Clavijo's choice of first team players and starters is at best, enigmatic. If that's the case does it make sense to handicap a player, because he spent half the season waiting for Niko to finally be pulled?
     
  11. scheck

    scheck Member

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would say he has the physical skills to compete with a lot of the guys on the nats, but that's not everything in soccer.
     
  12. Boots Utd

    Boots Utd Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Denver
    It would seem that with Beasley injured, the left side of the Nats is wide open. Convey looked pretty lost last night, Eddie Lewis is old, and Mapp hasn't lived up to his hype yet. There is young competition with Holden, Arturo Alvarez, and I think Robbie Rogers can play on the left wing as well.

    But somebody's got to step up, and why not Colin Clark?
     
  13. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 2008 season begins anew. He will now have competition from Ballouchy, Colaluca and perhaps Hercules, Hilgenbrinck &/or Burciaga. It is Clark's time to win consistent 1st choice selection. IMO, this step preceeds selection to USMNT!!!
     
  14. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    I think everyone in MLS can look at the selection of Drew Moor and say -

    "Hey, even I've got a shot."
     
  15. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he will. I will trust my perception of his play rather than Clavijo's choice of his starting position on the team, in any case. I've seen little evidence of a correlation between quality and starting when it comes to Clavijo's team.

    I note that today Alain Nkong, has recently been part of a championship team in Mexico, and today scored a goal for his homeland. Am I to assume that he's not really very good, because he was waived by Clavijo, rather than trust the evidence and my perception that Clavijo made a very bad choice by waiving him?
     
  16. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am re-invigorated. At 67 y/o I haven't played for 17 years but Moor's performance makes me wish I were younger. I think I may have had a chance.
     
  17. Taylor FC

    Taylor FC New Member

    Oct 28, 2004
    Commerce City, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking that while watching the game. I'm only 34 and I could have stayed that close to the attacker on a set piece. Or at least know not to let him between you and the goal.
     
  18. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    I was thinking, if you're going to grab the guys shirt, grab the damn shirt and prevent him from scoring, what's the point of fouling if you're not going to impact the play ;)
     
  19. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last night should be Moor's last CAP. He sucked.
     
  20. teddy_montoya

    teddy_montoya RapidsThugLife

    Nov 9, 2006
    Supporters Terrace
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So did a few other players from last night, especially number 12. Can't remember his name....
     
  21. ManU62280

    ManU62280 New Member

    Dec 2, 2004
    Colorado
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would have been Corrales. I liked what saw of him against Sweden but the other night he looked beyond lost out there.
     
  22. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    # 12 Ramiro Corrales

    Clearly both fullbacks, Moor & Corrales, were well beyond their quality, bit there are several others ahead of them in the pecking order. Nither of them will be seen in qualification.

    More disturbing was Convey. With Beaseley out this summer recuperating from surgery for a severe knee injury Convey was expected to carry the load. Unfortunately, what he brought with him from Reading was a load of crap. Whose up for L. Wing, Davis, Mapp, Alvarez, or ???
     
  23. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which, brings us back to this thread....

    The team misses Beasley's pace, tenacity, concentration, the engine, and defensive work.

    Convey, Lewis, Mapp, and Davis all add some quality, but none bring a great deal of pace, tenacity, or defense.

    The opportunity is there for the player who performs this season. Clark's young and in many ways his game most resembles the Beasley mold - with the same complaints: over-runs the play, goes down easily, not a classic crosser of the ball, finishing.... His big challenge is all those things, and his temper.
     
  24. teddy_montoya

    teddy_montoya RapidsThugLife

    Nov 9, 2006
    Supporters Terrace
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think that Clark is ready to play in the NATS, would I love to see him there? Yes, but he needs more improvment....
     
  25. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure he's ready either, but I don't think much of the competition is all that formidable.

    What do you want to see out of him?
     

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