Coehlo resigns !!

Discussion in 'Korea' started by Boom, Apr 16, 2004.

  1. Boom

    Boom Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    France
    According to the "L'Equipe" paper (French paper), Humberto Coelho left his functions...
    Who will be the new coach ?
     
  2. junjunforever

    junjunforever Member

    Feb 18, 2002
    sorry but i wont believe it until i see some more evidence.

    even if he resigns, i'd like him to take the team through the asian cup.
     
  3. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
  4. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Good, Bye-Bye Coelho, I won't miss you. Someone should send the poor guy some rotten tomatoes for goodbye present...

    NOW, KFA BETTER HIRE SOMEONE WHO COULD ACTUALLY "BEAT" MALDIVES...
     
  5. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Coelho isn't tactically naive.... the problem is the post-WC princess players.

    Put the Sangmu gaffer into the national team, and they'll be back to winning ways. :D
     
  6. woorijim

    woorijim Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Bucheon, South Korea
    Absolutely!

    As much as I hate Coelho's tactics where he never tries to introduce new blood and uses the same players all the time, thereby failing to create a sense of rivalry between the players and making them unmotivated, the blame should be put on the players first and foremost.

    After the success of the WC, the players became too arrogant. They think they can beat the minnow teams by just walking around in the park.
     
  7. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    im hearing rumors that "kim ho" will take over until the asian cup..

    i dont think this is a smart move by kfa..

    i have respect for kim ho and what he had done in the past but we need to realize that hes a coach that got fired from a damn "k-league"

    and i really think that none of the korean coaches have as much knowledge and experiences about the modern soccer as euro coaches..

    of course he had his good ol' days, but y are we hiring a coach thats going downhill recently even if hes gonna be temporary?

    especially when are NT is ALSO going downhill recently??

    plus, its too damn late for a new coach to take over and participate in the asian cup thats only like 2 and a half month from now..

    but if its true that coelho is gone, then korea is in deep ass truoble for the asian cup..
     
  8. Holyjoe

    Holyjoe Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    ROK/SCO
    He retired as Suwon boss, he didn't get fired.
     
  9. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    the suwon board pressured him to step down because of cha bum keun..

    so i guess its not really fired but u cant really say retire..

    plus, suwon played pretty poor for the last couple seasons with him..

    his only accomplishment after 2000 was when they won the FA cup 2 years ago i believe..
     
  10. Soju Gorae

    Soju Gorae New Member

    Simple way to describe Coehlo.

    Good tactician, terrible leader. End of story. Korean players, unlike their western counter parts have always lived in a strict dictatorship environment and for them to train with someone as easy going as Coehlo obviously has softened up their disposition and their trademark Korean resilience.
     
  11. Holyjoe

    Holyjoe Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    ROK/SCO
    I don't know, they've finished in third place for three consecutive seasons (2003, 2002, 2001), and they never finished below fifth place with him in charge.

    And his trophy success after 2000?

    2001:
    Asian Club Cup winners (1-0 v Jubilo Iwata)
    Asian Super Cup winners (4-3 v Al Shabab)

    2002:
    Asian Club Cup winners (4-2 on pens v Anyang after 0-0 draw)
    Asian Super Cup winners (4-2 on pens v Al Hilal after 1-1 draw)
    FA Cup winners (1-0 v Pohang)

    In fact, Kim Ho won some sort of silverware in every season as Suwon boss except his 1997 and 2003.
     
  12. Deleted Users

    Deleted Users Member+

    Nov 25, 2001
    There was no pressure. He retired with 6 Asian Trophies and 3 K-League titles the past 9 years. He single handedly raised players like Denis Laktinov and Ko Jong-su.

    He is the best soccer manager this country has to offer.

    Don't be so hasty with your words.
     
  13. Deleted Users

    Deleted Users Member+

    Nov 25, 2001
    Coelho. Good guy. I'm a bit bitter. But there are better people out there who would suit the Korea job better.

    I personally want the ex-Senagalese boss Bruno Metsu?

    Anyway. Good bye, Coelho. Sorry you had to work with crap players and an uncooperative FA. We still love you.
     
  14. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    hey, nothing to lose right now as this point. He can't do any worse than COelho was doing. Let's see what he can do for awhile and then decide, hey who knows, he might be a sleeper....If he does well, then he stays, if he doesn't, then hire someone else. Nothing to lose at this point.
     
  15. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    yea now that i think about it after reading some of the posts that u guys posted, u guys are actually right..

    maybe i was underestimating kim ho a lil..

    and once again, i really do have respect for him and think that he is one of the best "korean coaches" despite the fact that the level of korean coaches are nowhere near the european ones..

    but i still think the fact that he will only be temporary is pretty damn shady..
     
  16. Soju Gorae

    Soju Gorae New Member

    Of course I want Hiddink to be re-appointed but if that doesn't happen...

    My wishlist of managers:

    1. Aimes Jacquet: This man needs to get back on the coaching horse. He's been resting on his laurels much too long.

    2. Carlos Bianchi: Boca-man would be the type of leader that would be compatible with our subservient players.

    3. Johan Cruyff: The original practitioner and near-father of Dutch total football. 10 men attack and 10 men defend.

    4. Jose Antonio Camacho: May be too bitter about the tragedy and travesty Spain was given by the horrific officiating against our squad in the WC, but he should let bygones be bygones and coach our national team.

    5. Ronald Koeman: Has done wonders for Ajax.

    And the most unrealistic wish of mine:

    Arsene Wenger: Stern, cold, dictator, blood-thirsty for victories, anal retentive about every aspect of player management, and a damn near scientist when it comes to nutrition and training.
     
  17. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    u got a good list there..

    but remember we offered jacquet twice before and after the 2002 world cup? he rejected us both times..

    and i dunno about cruyff..

    cuz he doesnt really have the experience as a coach..

    and not all. but a lot of awesome players in the past tend to be a bad coach in the future..
     
  18. Soju Gorae

    Soju Gorae New Member

    True, but I may be misinformed but I think in club management, Cruyff did a good job with Barca. I don't know this for sure, so maybe someone who knows more about Cruyff could clarify.

    And yes, it sucked that Jacquet said non to KFA's requests.
     
  19. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    lol actually, i got confused between cruyff and van basten..

    cruyff has SOME experiences, not a lot.

    but if im not mistaken, he did a pretty good job..

    and its van basten that does not have any experience at professoinal coaching..
     
  20. jamisont

    jamisont Member

    Jan 30, 2002
    I dont think it really matters who becomes our new headcoach.
    the causes that give Coehlo trouble, still persist.

    lack of players due to club's schedules and WHININGS.
    lack of practice time with players (usually Coehlo got 48hrs to prepare a match with players)
    lack of support from KFA and too much regulations.
    under this circumstances... I dont think it matters who becomes new head coach
     
  21. woorijim

    woorijim Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Bucheon, South Korea
    http://news.media.daum.net/sports/soccer/200404/18/khan/v6497874.html

    Looks like Bruno Metsu is the favourite candidate to become the head coach of the Korean NT according to an official from KFA.

    For anyone who's not familiar with his name, he led the Senegal NT to the quarterfinals in the 2002 WC and also guided Al-Ain, the UAE club, to the winner of AFC Champions league the following year. He's now out of contract with Al-Ain after signing a temporary 10-month contract.
     
  22. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I remember him, he did a heck of a job with a newbie WC team in Senegal...I still laugh everytime Senegal beat France...but of course there was no Zidane and Pires but it's still funny...
     
  23. Almogavar92

    Almogavar92 New Member

    Aug 17, 2001
    USA
    Club:
    Galatasaray SK
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Did someone here say that Cruyff has only "Some" experience? The man managed one of the most difficult clubs to manage from 1988 until 1995 and this is only "some" experience? He was even slated to take over Holland for USA'94 but didn't for personal reasons. The man is more than experienced. Some will say that club football and international football are different, but this man was a genius. He had tactics that made Barca what Barca became in that period. He was one of Barca's greatest coaches if I dare not say the greatest. You don't get that title with merely "some" experience. Prior to Barcelona, he was at Ajax leading them to European glory in the 1987 Cup Winners' Cup. Trust me, he's got a lot of experience.
     
  24. Boom

    Boom Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    France
    I 'm wondering if Bruno Metsu "style" will match with the Korean minding. His style matchs more with an african team. But what he did with the Senegal was impressive, so why not ?
    Maybe Lemerre could be an interesting option...
    Wenger would be the best, but if he ever thought to manage an asian team, I think he will choose Japan.

    Anyway, it looks like Kim Ho will be the new coach...

    http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/sports/200404/kt2004041820555611620.htm
    Coelho Expected to Step Down

    SEOUL (Yonhap) _ Kim Ho, former head coach of the Suwon Blue Wings, has been asked to replace Humberto Coelho as coach of the South Korean national football team, officials at the Korea Football Association (KFA) said Saturday.
    The Portuguese coach has reportedly decided to step down, taking responsibility for the national squad's recent poor performance.

    ``(Coelho) said that he would hold a news conference Monday to announce his decision,'' a KFA official said.

    Coelho could not be contacted Saturday.

    He has come under growing pressure to resign since the disappointing goalless draw in late March between the national team and the underdog Maldives in a qualifier for the 2006 World Cup.

    The tie shocked South Korean football fans, as the national squad reached the semifinals of the World Cup in 2002 under the leadership of Dutch coach Guus Hiddink.

    Kim Ho has yet to officially accept the KFA proposal to lead the team.

    Kim was the coach of the South Korean squad during the 1994 World Cup.
     
  25. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    we didn't do that bad in 94, if i'm not mistaken, we were actually pretty close to making to next round in 94...So why not give him a shot?

    I still prefer Metsu though, since he has taken a squad pretty far...

    Wenger is a decent option imo, but i still would go with Metsu.
     

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