I think last years March camp was to build on what had been accomplished in January camp last yr. Because the March camp is short, his list of new players was short. This is all speculation and has been covered here before. You are aware of it. Anyways, let me share with you some information that may not be well known outside of OC fans. Last yr OC bought Justen Meram from Columbus. He was a big player for us. Under Kries he struggled. We ended up selling him back to Columbus for about half of what we paid for him after half a season. On his way out he did an interview where he revealed he struggled under Kries because there was no attacking direction like there was under GB @ Columbus. He felt lost in the final third. During camp cupcakes games last yr there was real evidence of plan of attack and a system of play that was not there under previous coaches.
I used to post here in the ‘80s under a different name. The name and email are long gone. I read through some of these crazy threads..had to skip through a lot of it, but what I wrote was posted several times.
You posted here in the '80's?? What access to the God of Technology allowed you to post on the internet before there was an internet? BS, I'm Callin' ya.
If the first dream glimmer of what we call the Internet traces back to Licklider's vision of a "Galactic Network" [1962], the final bureaucratic stamp of its actuality lies in the FNC's official resolution [1995] as to the definition of the Internet. The "basic construction" phase, first brought to bear by DARPA in the 1960's can be said to have ended with the shutting down of the ARPANET in 1990 and the formation of The Internet Society in 1991. In any case, BS [here I'm going according to Wikipedia] was "Founded by Jesse Hertzberg as personal hobby in 1995 with Ethan Bear joining in 1997" So no one is posting on BS in the 1980's.
There was an Internet since the 70s. November 22 1977, to be exact, when the IP (Interconnected networks Protocol) came in use. I've been on the Internet since 1982. The problem is most people confuse the web with the Internet. The web is just one one of the services of http, the hypertext transfer protocol, port 80/8080, out of about 37 protocols people use to communicate, the one the average person knows. And it only started at the end of 1991. But there are much older ways to communicate on the Internet, most still in use by the more techie types. From the No News is Good News Transfer Protocol (nntp, port 123, the most famous of its services being Usenet) to the secure shell protocol (ssh, port 22, used all over to connect remotely to big iron systems). From the file transfer protocol (port 21, its most well-known services giant file or library repositories) to the telnet protocol (port 23, among its services the 300+ BBSs still operating around the world). Or the Gopher protocol (70) that was the direct father of http and still widely used. Or the internet relay chat prot. (6667). And if you use email you're using the simple mail transfer protocol (smtp, 25/587) to send it, and imap (993, internet message access prot.) or pop (110/995, post office prot.) to access it. What regular folks call "the web" is just one of about a dozen distributed services on http. Another one is what the papers call "the dark web," networks that are not searchable from outside (like The Onion Ring). Still others are http services that use peer-to-peer format, like Zeronet. And others are just for circles of specialists that share the address on a need-to-know basis (Freenets). The "clear web" (what regular folks call "internet") is just one service out of about a dozen in one human-communication facilitating protocol out of about 37 out there.
People migrated to bigsoccer from the North American Soccer listserv that was started in early ‘90’s.
The Majordomo listerv dates from late 1992. Before that we were on Usenet, on rec.sports.soccer since 1983. And before that we had about a dozen soccer-themed BBSs. In fact, them linking to Fidonet in the mid-80s is what made the Usenet group grow back in 1985-87. PS: And even before that, does anyone remember "go soccer" on CompuServe?
I was trying to see what you posted above which was inconsistent with what I posted. It seems to come down to you wanting to call "The Internet" that dynamic array of growing technology and networks that ran from the early 60's through late 80's, before "The Internet" was formally institutionalized in the period from 1990 to 1995. Whereas I just consider that variety to be a collection of evolving examples of "a internet". Whatever. To remind all who are uncertain, it is BS to say one was posting on BS in the 1980's.
So we are conflating network based user groups on soccer with BS??? A discussion on the links between evolving technology and the soccer community in this country is interesting in its own right.
So? What exactly are you trying to argue for? Big Soccer drew upon a prior existing community. It was not that prior existing community. Are you claiming that it was?
You're wrong. The Internet was named that the moment the Internet Protocol (IP) was adopted. Hence the name. "Network that uses IP" = Internet. Again, you're confusing the web with the Internet. It's like thinking The Queen is all of Royalty. Yes, I've spent too long in England/Canada.
OMG. I did not mean to start some dispute that has nothing to do with soccer. I moved to Orlando in the early ‘90s and started using the internet after that. So yes it was BS that I was on BS in the ‘80s. I was on in the ‘90s. Can we go back to discussing soccer now?
Thank goodness you confessed to this weighty transgression as 21st century BS can freak the f$$k out about such things. It was a kinder, gentler BS in ye olden days.
i didn’t take your 80s comments at face value but rather hyperbole - I am surprised that a new poster would have scrolled all the way back to the discussions about last March’s matches and reference them.
I think I get the point. Berhalter's tactics appear to us like 90s-era internet--kinda slow and glitchy, but occasionally capable of producing real awe-inspiring moments. But he and Stewart maintain there's a secret set of metrics, a dark web of metrics if you will, that shows a ton of progress.
Well the soccer community was almost a cult back then. I didn’t scroll back that far. I read back on a thread that had it throughout the thread. I also found an Andrew Carlton thread that was pretty interesting among others.
Yeah, people should be freaked when they eventually find out how long tech goes back. But that wouldn't be human. The main thing now is that you get Meg n 'arry into soccer, Suyuntuy. Think you can do that?
I have enough of a job keeping my own enthusiasm for soccer going. Far too many very dirty people are getting their hands in it at this point.
oooooooo…….I like meg n' 'arry. Actually, have to admit it is getting disappointing with Nashville reneging on stadium deal they promised. They say St.Louis in doubt as well. I wonder if that 300M + buy-in at Charlotte left a lot of people speechless. Personally,I'd like to see Garber take a "community" attitude towards expansion which would make us all feel a whole lot better about the sport.
I’ll say this for the record... Do I think Berhalter is the right man? After 2019, that’s a resounding hell no. But, since he isn’t going to be fired, I’m going to hope/pray he had some spiritual awakening that makes him into the coach we want and need him to be. Playing devils advocate with myself, things that were against him from the start: 1. New coach at international level. This was probably too much too soon for him and given the damage to the program, maybe he was not the right man to build it back up. 2. A rotten core group of players that failed to qualify for the WC. Most of those players should have been purged from the team. 3. Incredibly low morale and lack of locker room leadership. Notice no one says, I believe anymore? There was no captain to pick this team up by the boot straps. 4. The new core group of players are still extremely young. Most under the age of 21. For any NT coach, that presents a problem when there’s hardly anyone worth a damn from the age of 22-30. 5. Tons of injuries to key players. We seemed to always be operating on at least 50+% injury rate. Again, does this excuse some bonehead calls? Absolutely not. But since he will continue to be the coach, I’m going to give a little bit of slack to see if he is the type of coach that can learn from his mistakes. Or if he is just destined to repeat them. Let’s hope: We can stay mostly injury free. We find a leader in the locker room. We get rid of the dead weight. We see our young players emerge to be sure enough starters. We see more young players push to compete for a spot.