Coach Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by JasonMa, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BTW, if Fraser were to get just 11 points in the final 32 games of 2020 (assuming they get played) he'd still have a better career PPG than Hudson.
     
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  2. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is sad how few years of 1.5 (wins=losses, not ties) or even 1.33 (W=L=T). We have never won the Shield (Pablo came close) and we won our MLS Cup via the eastern conference......Sigh. They say catchers make good managers based on their role. Call the pitches, see the field well. Maybe central midfielders in soccer as they see the field their entire career.

    R
     
  3. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    When was the last time a Rapids coach had the team undefeated going into May?
     
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  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    8. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    11. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    11. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    13. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    14. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    16. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    17. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    18. 2020 - Fraser - 1.125
    19. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    19. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    21. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    22. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    23. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    24. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    25. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 15 Games - 1.60
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Fraser - Never qualified - N/A
     
  5. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reviewing how many bad season we have had, and how our good teams always got dismantled, I wonder why I am still a supporter. Sure I let my season tickets lapse two years ago, just get single game now, and I wear my Kamara jersey on Game Day (big believer in someone to stretch the field) around town or where ever. I think the 1999 team was my favorite in the first half, going 11-2-2 or something. Then they got rid of Hahnemann in June (old story, his last game he tossed his goalie gloves into the River Ratz, and I caught one of them. May still have it). That year, they slipped to like third or fourth place. Not a fun second half. I have a colleague ex-collegiate swimmer describe his Triathlon experience just like that "I get out of the water in the top 3, then the rest of the day I get passed over and over by runners and cyclists."
     
  6. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You aren't the only one asking this question...
     
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  7. TheWarmBurger

    TheWarmBurger Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Aug 7, 2018
    Arizona

    For me, it’s more than just results on the field. Being a supporter of the Rapids has been part of my entire life.

    I’ll never forget when my grandma took me to my first soccer games when I was a “wee lad” in the Rapids early seasons. Heck, I still have a roster poster with all the teams pictures on it and their signatures from ‘96 and from ‘98 laying around somewhere.

    I have fond memories at Invesco Field at Mile High meeting players, chanting along in the supporters section (One that comes to mind that I probably shouldn’t remember “he’s big, he’s fat, they put him in the back Zach Thornton...whenever he would come to town), the joy of goals being scored, the heartbreak of the loss, the tailgates...the list goes on.

    Speaking of, both my grandma and I live in AZ now, and still watch the games together. She’ll even be coming over tonight, and her, my wife, and I will enjoy dinner together and watch the Rapids play.


    I’ll always be a supporter of the team, not because they are great - but because they’ve been great to me.
     
  8. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    "Who are we,
    Where are we from,
    Why are we here,
    Where are we going,
    What is our purpose,
    Why do we support the Rapids?"
     
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  9. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Yet I can't wait to get back to the Dick. Even to watch them loose.
     
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  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2020 - Fraser - 1.4615
    7. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    9. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    10. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    11. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    12. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    12. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    14. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    15. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    16. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    17. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    18. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    19. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    19. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    21. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    22. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    23. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    24. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    25. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 20 Games - 1.70
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Fraser - Never qualified - N/A
     
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BTW, Fraser needs 3 points the rest of the season to keep his all-time pts/game above Pablo and Clavijo. He's already guaranteed to finish above Hudson.
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In fact, with last night's win Fraser is up to 34 total points with the Rapids. Hudson had 33 points in his whole Rapids career.
     
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  13. TheWarmBurger

    TheWarmBurger Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Aug 7, 2018
    Arizona
    “It’s always darkest before the dawn”
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2020 - Fraser - 1.556
    3. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    4. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    5. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    6. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    7. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    9. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    10. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    11. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    12. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    12. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    14. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    15. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    16. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    17. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    18. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    19. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    19. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    21. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    22. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    23. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    24. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    25. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 25 Games - 1.72
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    6. Fraser - 0-1 - .000
    8. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  15. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @JasonMa thanks for keeping these stats up. Small sample size says we shouldn't get too excited about having Fraser yet.

    Having said that, I'm glad he's the Rapids coach. Although I disagreed with his lineup last night, overall he's done a very good job with a still-coming-together roster in this craziest of seasons. If we can get or grow the striker and CB we need and figure out how to deploy the midfield to provide a bit of cover for the back 4, we can be even better next season.
     
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  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Small sample size, yes, but if Fraser manages to get 1 PPG next season he'll finish the season above Pareja's and Hankinson's career PPG. I feel fairly confident in predicting he'll do that much. Being the 4th best coach (3rd best non-interim) coach after 59 games is notable.
     
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  17. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree Completely, first offseason in awhile I am not thinking coaching replacement needed.
     
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  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2021 - Fraser - 1.677
    3. 2020 - Fraser - 1.556
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    5. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    6. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    6. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    8. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    9. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    10. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    11. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    12. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    13. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    15. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    16. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    17. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    18. 1997 - Mooch - 1.188
    19. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    20. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    20. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    22. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    23. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    24. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    25. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    26. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 32 Games - 1.75
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    6. Fraser - 0-1 - .000
    8. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fraser already has enough points to finish ahead of Cooke even if we lose the rest of the games this season. He needs 8 more points to finish ahead of Houghton, 15 to stay ahead of Clavijo, 17 to stay ahead of Mastroeni, 22 to stay ahead of Hankinson/Pareja, 28 to stay ahead of Casey, 29 to stay ahead of Mooch, and 30 more points to stay on top.
     
  20. Paranoid Coyote

    Paranoid Coyote Member+

    Oct 21, 2007
    Memphis, TN
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fraser has 11 more games until he's coached the same number as Hudson, so why does it feel like Hudson coached 3 times as long?

    I think he's been messing around with the Stargate in Cheyenne Mountain.
     
  21. therapidsnumbernine

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Jul 16, 2019
    Nebraska
    Pandemic has screwed up all our brains WRT time. 2020 still feels like it didn't really happen.
     
  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2021 - Fraser - 1.818
    2. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    3. 2020 - Fraser - 1.556
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    5. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    6. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    6. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    8. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    9. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    10. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    11. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    12. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    13. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    15. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    16. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    17. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    18. 1997 - Mooch - 1.188
    19. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    20. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    20. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    22. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    23. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    24. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    25. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    26. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 36 Games - 1.75
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    6. Fraser - 0-1 - .000
    8. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  23. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is so weird having a good team.......
     
  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2021 - Fraser - 1.75
    2. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    3. 2020 - Fraser - 1.556
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    5. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    6. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    6. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    8. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    9. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    10. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    11. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    12. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    13. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    15. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    16. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    17. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    18. 1997 - Mooch - 1.188
    19. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    20. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    20. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    22. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    23. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    24. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    25. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    26. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 41 Games - 1.73
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    6. Fraser - 0-1 - .000
    8. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    8. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  25. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fraser is guaranteed to finish this season no worse than 7th all-time in PPG for Rapids coaches (just the barest smidge ahead of Pablo). He needs 14 points in the last 18 games to retain the top spot.

    At that point he'll be 7th all-time in games coached, but after passing Pareja early next season its not going to be until almost the middle of 2023 before he passes anyone else (Smith) on total games. But if he makes it all the way through 2023 he'll be one game behind Mooch for most games managed.
     

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