Coach of the Year: Steve Nicol

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by dawgpound2, Oct 16, 2002.

  1. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Coach of the Year

    Steve Nicol of New England



    I can't say as I agree.
     
  2. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Re: Coach of the Year

    Well who's your choice? He took a last place team and they finished first in their division. Now they're playing for the title.
     
  3. Gregor

    Gregor New Member

    Jun 23, 1999
    Boston, MA USA
    Re: Re: Coach of the Year

    ... against his team
     
  4. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, he won the division with a losing record. I forget what his record was but it wasn't much above .500 if I recall correctly.

    I'm sure someone will correct me.

    I would have gone with Sigi. He doesn't get enough credit (except for his beer belly).
     
  5. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    Re: Re: Coach of the Year

    I don't want to rain on Nicol's parade but he did also benefit from the Great MLS Florida Garage Sale. Just because Oz got the same benefit and yet f-ed it all up in NY doesn't mean Nicol was a genius, just that Oz is a moron.

    I'm a Fire fan and I'm sure this will bring down howls of "Bias!!!" but my vote regardless of bias would be for Bob Bradley for simply getting the Fire to the playoffs despite call-ups and injuries that would have knocked any other team in MLS out of playoff contention by mid August.

    But to expect people to vote for any coach other than one who is in the final is unrealistic. It would be too risky for most of the voters so I guess
    Nicol it is.
     
  6. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Re: Re: Re: Coach of the Year

    I honestly have no idea what that means.
     
  7. Gregor

    Gregor New Member

    Jun 23, 1999
    Boston, MA USA
    sorry, against dawgpound2's team

    and yeah, thank god new england got rooney, chacon, and diallo/serna, where would they be without them?
     
  8. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    Re: Re: Re: Coach of the Year

    So Bobby B. should get the nod for grabbing the 8th best record in a 10 team league - and this only at the eleventh hour - then getting quickly knocked off in the playoffs? Sure, that sounds right...

    The Fire were in the East, where it was downright tough to eliminate yourself from playoff contention. Nobody managed to pull this off (eliminating themselves from contention that is) - not even though DC and New England who made some valiant efforts.
     
  9. joe guy

    joe guy New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Portland, OR
    I would have gone with Sigi. He doesn't get enough credit (except for his beer belly). [/B][/QUOTE]
    I agree. Compare the Galaxy players vs. Revolution players over all. I think Schmidt has done a fine job with very limited talent. Victorine, Vagenas, Mullin, etc, don't compare to Ralston, Hernandez, Kammler, etc. IMO.
     
  10. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Re: Re: Coach of the Year

    Technically, I believe the Galaxy were last in the West for a bit this season as well, so Sigi did the same thing only better.
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    A good number of those losses, though, were the result of the tactical stylings of Fernando Clavijo, however. It was inevitable that he was going to get it.

    And Rodan, if ANY other team had lost the services of as many key players as Bradley did, making the playoffs at all, even in the East, would've been out of the question.
     
  12. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    I respectfully though vehemently disagree.

    I can certainly understand Steve Nichols. Shmidt would also have been a fine choice, as would have Mike Jeffries (the late slide killed him - but so did the teams torrid late-season schedule).

    Bradley...er, no.
     
  13. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    I'd say you have to give it to the coach who had the best record since Steve Nicol took over the Revolution.
     
  14. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    they had them before Nicol took over and they pretty much stunk up the joint...
     
  15. joe guy

    joe guy New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Portland, OR
    Well posters, it looks like this thread is academic since SN has officially been give Coach of the Year honors as of this morning (check other threads).
     
  16. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    yoohoo, I posted it right after I heard he won officially! C'mon!
     
  17. joe guy

    joe guy New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Portland, OR
    Mea culpa. Maybe you should have stated the dude officially won the honor for brain dead posters.
     
  18. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    just a little fyi.

    2001 MLS Coach of the Year: Frank Yallop, San Jose

    2000 Coach of the Year: Bob Gansler, Kansas City

    1999 All Sport Coach of the Year: Sigi Schmid, Los Angeles

    1998 All Sport Coach of the Year: Bob Bradley, Chicago

    1997 MLS Coach of the Year: Bruce Arena, D.C. United

    1996 MLS Coach of the Year: Thomas Rongen, Tampa Bay

    No one has ever won it twice....
     
  19. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    I couldn't be happier that Stevie Nichols won - but I wouldn't be surprised (and the history of this award seems to back this up) if having been around a while didn't help Zig much. The longer you've been around, the more toes you've had time to step on.
     
  20. PZ

    PZ Member

    Apr 11, 1999
    Michiana
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you'd give it to Sigi?
     
  21. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    But the real shocker is that Rongen won it at all ;)
     
  22. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Fair enough.
     
  23. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    *Ding*
     
  24. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Nicol would have been my choice as well. Dismal performances, high expectations, no training camp to mold the team into "his" team, yet he still managed to overhaul the roster, bring in a new high profile attacker (Serna) only to lose him to injury as he finds his form, bring in an A-League defender (DC United's #1 SuperDraft pick Daouda Kante) late in the season and finish 5-0-1 and stay hot through the playoffs. Great job indeed!

    Now, if Kraft is smart, he'll take that silly "Interim" tag off and sign Nicol to a long term deal. If he doesn't, some English Nationwide side will.

    Sigi always has his teams peak at the right time, and Ruiz is looking like Batman, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. But, Sigi has had plenty of time to build a strong team, and succeeded. From now on he's really only measured by hardware, and the Open Cup isn't enough.

    -Tron
     
  25. cageyfoot

    cageyfoot New Member

    Feb 8, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Wasn't he on the short list of prospective coaches for DC? Damn. Another missed opportunity.

    buc
     

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